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― sleeve, Friday, 9 February 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link
Yeah that always seemed the crucial thing. The Fall ca. Dragnet/Totales Turn were a killer dance band
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
Well, of course.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/brawl-breaks-out-fall-singer-11994398.amp
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
Some more clarification from Pritchard he mentions “parasites and vultures, who have only been around a couple years physically attacking people asking why they were at the funeral.
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link
Gary Young could have played drums in the Fall.
― timellison, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
it always seemed to me like the Fall's shambolic quality came more from Mark and whoever is playing keyboard/guitar, and that any Fall drummer wld have to be able to hold down a motorik beat for a long time, Gary Young does not strike me as that guy
― Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link
Also MES only allowed for one unreliable drunk in the band at a time
― Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
Statement from his sisters on the "official" Fall site
We would like to thank family, friends and fans for all their kind words, condolences and memories about our brother Mark.
Also, the N.H.S and staff who treated Mark throughout and Mark’s partner Pam who loved, cared and cherished our brother.
Mark fought a long and hard battle after his diagnosis of terminal lung and kidney cancer. He took every treatment going, which could be brutal at times and left Mark with some horrible side effects. Mark was such a strong man and hated letting his fans down and tried to carry on regardless against all advice.
Mark had a great life and loved and lived it to the full and always by his own rules and we, as his sisters were privileged to be part of it too.
Mark is at peace now and pain free, but we, his three sisters have been left heartbroken and will miss our big brother very much.
Barbara, Suzanne and Caroline.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
;_;
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
Aw man.
― Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
I can't believe he played those last shows
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
yeah it really is a testament to his force of will
very touching, thanks for posting that
― sleeve, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
One of the things I think that gets overlooked when people talk about the Fall and all the records/songs and all the touring and continuing despite turnovers and illness & etc. is that I don't think you can look at them like a "band" exactly. You need to think about them as a small business, like a plumbing service (MES's dad was a plumber). MES never seemed to wait for creative inspiration or the mood to strike to write songs, they were constantly writing because that's what bands do, they write songs and put out records. That's how you make money.
People quit or get fired you don't close up shop, you find replacements. You might be sick but you press on cuz that's just what you do.
In Hanley's book he points that right from the start (or least from when Bramah & Friel exit) the group was organized from the top down, MES & management in charge and controlling the purse strings and everyone else was essentially an employee, drawing a wage, going to the boss when gear needed to be replaced etc.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
And like a small business owner MES sort of equally loves & hates "the lads" and berates them when they fuck up but when Hanley's son is born premature they basically give him six months paid leave (though I suspect that was more Brix then MES)
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
I just finally watched the videos of that final Glasgow show yesterday Fuckin hell.
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
There is a 'tribute' column in Private Eye this week, a sort-of message from the afterlife. It's touching that they did it, it's not something they've done often if at all before. Obviously it's terrible, but hey.
― Mark G, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
"Re-Mit", which I probably haven't listened to since it was released really sounding good this AM.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link
This person’s posthumous top 20 is really well chosen and really really well written. http://hippriestess.tumblr.comLa Lechera if u want another fall playlist...
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
As a mark of respect for the great Mark E Smith we’ve displayed Grayson Perry’s ‘My Heroes’ with MES’s portrait to the fore. In Studio Ceramics, Room 142, The Lydia and Manfred Gorvy Gallery, V&A. #markesmith #markesmithrip #TheFall #GraysonPerry #ceramics @V_and_A @Alan_Measles pic.twitter.com/jhRNuxhfZc— Alun Graves (@alun_graves) February 14, 2018
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 February 2018 09:18 (six years ago) link
Barry Sheen is on the other side iirc. (April Ashley and Aubrey Beardsley also, according to Wikipedia)
There's one of Johnny Vegas' teapots in the same room.
― koogs, Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link
it actually looks a bit more like Mick than Mark IMO
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link
Indeed. Lips too sumptuous
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
listing Grotesque on Ebay...
https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32089895_10156857634282137_5340684110501249024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=05d24c05f3899b8cdff18f56635f8a49&oe=5B89CB0E
― scott seward, Monday, 7 May 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
nice
― sleeve, Monday, 7 May 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link
ha ha yes
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 May 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link
golden
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 7 May 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
p sure The Real New Fall LP covers the rest
― imago, Monday, 7 May 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
Expanded and slightly rejiggered version of "50,000 Fall Fans Can't be Wrong":
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/the-fall-58-golden-greats-58-original-tracks-including-all-the-hits-3cd-boxset/
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
Huh, track list drops "Green Eyed Loco-Man" - which seems like a real loss!
― BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link