Regardless, whatever bassist they have should get combat pay for sitting through the first half of Disarm.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
If you’re curious, it’s enough time to finish a boss in the Dungeon Run mode of Hearthstone.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
You guys haven’t read his confessions?? Oh my god... you thought the Kim thayil article was rich
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
Los Angeles, CA - FEBRUARY 15, 2018 - GRAMMY® Award-winning, acclaimed alternative rock pioneers The Smashing Pumpkins today announced the Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, their first tour in nearly 20 years to feature founding members Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, and James Iha. Produced by Live Nation, the 36-city tour will kick off in Glendale, AZ on July 12, 2018 and visit North American arenas throughout the summer. Tickets for the Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour will go on sale to the general publicstarting next Friday, February 23 at 10:00am local time and be available at www.smashingpumpkins.com, LiveNation.com, and via the Live Nation App.“Some 30 years ago, as The Smashing Pumpkins, James Iha and I began a musical journey in the cramped rear bedroom of my Father's house. And so it's magic to me that we're able to coalesce once more around the incredible Jimmy Chamberlin, to celebrate those songs we've made together,” shared Corgan.The band broke news of the tour this morning with a dramatic video featuring original Siamese Dream album cover stars Ali Laenger and LySandra Roberts. Watch the clip HERE.https://youtu.be/_Axm5b3i1gAThe monumental Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, which coincides with the 30th anniversary of the band’s formation, will highlight music from the group’s inception through 2000, and will exclusively feature material from their groundbreaking debut Gish through Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Adore, and Machina. Longtime Smashing Pumpkins guitarist Jeff Schroeder will also take part, as the band moves to a three guitar lineup to better emulate the signature tones and textures of their albums.“This show and staging will be unlike any we've ever done, and will feature a set unlike any we've ever played. For if this is a chance at a new beginning, we plan on ushering it in with a real bang,” added Corgan.
“Some 30 years ago, as The Smashing Pumpkins, James Iha and I began a musical journey in the cramped rear bedroom of my Father's house. And so it's magic to me that we're able to coalesce once more around the incredible Jimmy Chamberlin, to celebrate those songs we've made together,” shared Corgan.
The band broke news of the tour this morning with a dramatic video featuring original Siamese Dream album cover stars Ali Laenger and LySandra Roberts. Watch the clip HERE.
https://youtu.be/_Axm5b3i1gA
The monumental Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, which coincides with the 30th anniversary of the band’s formation, will highlight music from the group’s inception through 2000, and will exclusively feature material from their groundbreaking debut Gish through Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Adore, and Machina. Longtime Smashing Pumpkins guitarist Jeff Schroeder will also take part, as the band moves to a three guitar lineup to better emulate the signature tones and textures of their albums.
“This show and staging will be unlike any we've ever done, and will feature a set unlike any we've ever played. For if this is a chance at a new beginning, we plan on ushering it in with a real bang,” added Corgan.
Unlike any we've ever done and a new beginning, says Corgan, as he reunites most of the band to tour the hits.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
July 12 – Glendale, AZ @ Gila River ArenaJuly 14 – Oklahoma City, OK @ Chesapeake Energy ArenaJuly 16 – Austin, TX @ Frank Erwin CenterJuly 17 – Houston, TX @ Toyota CenterJuly 18 – Dallas, TX @ American Airlines CenterJuly 20 – Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone ArenaJuly 21 – Louisville, KY @ KFC Yum! CenterJuly 22 – Atlanta, GA @ Infinite Energy AernaJuly 24 – Miami, FL @ American Airlines ArenaJuly 25 – Tampa, FL @ Amalie ArenaJuly 27 – Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms ArenaJuly 28 – Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo CenterJuly 29 – Uncasville, CT @ Mohegan Sun ArenaJuly 31 – Boston, MA @ TD GardenAugust 1 – New York City, NY @ Madison Square GardenAugust 4 – Pittsburgh, PA @ PPG Paints ArenaAugust 5 – Detroit, MI @ Little Caesars ArenaAugust 7 – Montreal, QC @ Centre BellAugust 8 – Toronto, ON @ Air Canada CentreAugust 11 – Columbus, OH @ Schottenstein CenterAugust 13 – Chicago, IL @ United CenterAugust 16 – Kansas City, MO @ Sprint CenterAugust 17 – Indianapolis, IN @ Bankers Life FieldhouseAugust 19 – St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy CenterAugust 20 – Omaha, NE @ CenturyLink CenterAugust 21 – Sioux Falls, SD @ Denny Sanford Premier CenterAugust 24 – Seattle, WA @ Key ArenaAugust 25 – Portland, OR @ Moda CenterAugust 27 – Oakland, CA @ Oracle ArenaAugust 28 – Sacramento, CA @ Golden 1 CenterAugust 30 – Los Angeles, CA @ The ForumSeptember 1 – San Diego, CA @ Viejas ArenaSeptember 2 – Las Vegas, NV @ T-Mobile ArenaSeptember 4 – Salt Lake City, UT @ Vivint Smart Home ArenaSeptember 5 – Denver, CO @ Pepsi CenterSeptember 7 – Boise, ID @ Ford Idaho Center
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
so Billy has said having Jimmy back means they can play "3 hour sets" - I expect hits from every era, plus a handful of the epics like Porcelina, Geek, Soma, Mayo, Ruby... sounds pretty good to me. and glad I won't have to travel to see this
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
I have serious doubts about them being able to fill such big arenas in so many cities.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
What's the biggest audience the Pumpkins have played in the last 11 years?
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
*played to
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
They are all pretty fun but certainly not complicated. I don’t understand why you would need a studio musician to tour with. as opposed to what, a DAT? they want a musician who is physically and mentally willing and capable of playing for hours, travelling for months, and handling interpersonal stress.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
The press release going to great lengths to stress “only the good years”...
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
yeah^
i also have serious doubts about them being able to fill these arenas, even with james & jimmy back. I went to the 2012 Barclays show promoting Oceania that came out on blu-ray, and the place was at most half full. it was pathetic. then again, to the general public, SP2 basically doesn't exist... most people don't even know they ever got back together. Zeitgeist was over a decade ago. so this could get people out that weren't even aware of all the shit Billy's been up to since 2000. especially since this tour is backed by LiveNation, promotion is going to be more intense (i.e. billboards in times square)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
No Philly or Camden on the first leg? That seems odd.
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
also weird that there's a baltimore gig but no DC gig
...probably because the arena in baltimore is half the size of the one they'd play in DC...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
My son just texted me asking if I wanted to go to their Austin show. Not sure how I feel about that.
― Moodles, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I'm struggling to think of another band where the gulf between how much I love the music and how irritating I find the people that made it is this wide.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
will david lee roth be in this lineup
― akm, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
let's have an all-plastic-surgery lineup: D'arcy on bass, DLR on vox, Larry Mullet Jr on drums, Tori on keybs, a rotating assortment of 80s metal dudes on guitar
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 16 February 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link
Izzy Stradlin!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link
I'm surprised to hear that a bunch of my son's high school friends are also hyped up about this tour. I had no idea that today's youth had an interest in this old timey muzak. It's kind of like when Pink Floyd and Page/Plant got back together in the 90s.
― Moodles, Friday, 16 February 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link
Frances Bean Cobain & Krist Novocelic Present: The Nirvana Experience (Featuring Dave Grohl)
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 February 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link
honestly surprised that he's actually doing pre-Zeitgeist material only, with no mention of whatever new music they were working on. that can only be a good sign
― ufo, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:53 (six years ago) link
So otm & also a huge selling point for most ppl I know. Because some of them were there in 2008 for the 10 minute covers of “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun”
― flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:56 (six years ago) link
Zwan did a killer cover of Silver Machine when I saw them at the Metro, iirc
― too notch (stevie), Friday, 16 February 2018 07:45 (six years ago) link
To be fair there are 5 or so post-Machina II songs that I’d be happy to hear live in addition to the old stuff. It hasn’t been ALL bad.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
yeah i know but dont give the big bad bald man any ideas
― flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
“And here’s an old favorite: ‘Being Beige’!”
― Sam Weller, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
What was that? A sequel to Mayonaise or something?
― how's life, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link
Lol
― flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
"This is a song about a jerk, I hexed him and now he's losing his hair"
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Friday, 16 February 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link
Fresh Fruit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ThN4aEDU
― flappy bird, Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
I confess that I haven't heard all that much of their stuff but based on what I have heard, the Smashing Pumpkins' popularity might baffle me more than anything else in music. The music may be good but then the 'vocals' come in and to all my perception those are nothing more than utterly unpleasant croaking.
I like New Order's 'Get Ready' a lot but always hated their choice to feature Corgan on Turn My Way. He opens his mouth and the song is spoiled.Bowie did that 50th birthday show with guest musicians, two songs with Corgan, same story: to my ears, it's a musical massacre. He doesn't add anything to the songs/show but detriment. For me, it was a struggle to listen to the songs with him.And I've never been able to understand why so many people do like his stuff; why even someone like Bowie would invite him to 'sing' along on that special stage.
― Valentijn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 07:36 (six years ago) link
only young people and dogs can fully hear his singing
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 07:39 (six years ago) link
I know what you mean, I feel the same way about Bjork
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 07:44 (six years ago) link
StanM - that's one of the best responses I ever had.
I can see how Bjork could have a similar effect on people. I actually do like her vocals a lot!
― Valentijn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 07:55 (six years ago) link
His nasal whine is a big part of what I love so much about the first two albums, I can't really think of any voice that would go better.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 08:21 (six years ago) link
i thought this was cool, the bat strat thru the years:
http://data.whicdn.com/images/23707630/bat-strat3_large.jpg
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link
corgan! a study in glumness, coming summer 2018 from taschen
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
tour is already a disaster, not selling anywhere: https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/02/smashing-pumpkins-reunion-tour-doesnt-appear-to-be-selling-very-well/
i'm feeling pretty disgusted with Billy lately, mostly re: stuff in the D'arcy interviews. 1) this is a completely cynical cash grab because Bill got himself in a financial hole buying all those wrestling companies 2) he gave D'arcy the runaround and never seriously considered having her on the tour, and didn't even have the basic courtesy of working out an offer 3) even though it's not exactly news, the stories that D'arcy has told have - for the first time - made it hard for me to listen to SP music.
not sure if yall read the outtakes from the interview, but Billy straight up refused to play "Daydream" in the Gish/SD years because fans wanted to hear it so much & he just couldn't stand D'arcy or anyone else getting any attention. the other revelation from these interviews is the extent to which Billy sidelined D'arcy through the original run & how much the fans lost out on because of his petty insecurities. with James, we got what he could give, and as evidenced by his solo work, he was not a repressed talent like George Harrison. we got Jimmy's contributions obviously. but D'arcy recorded backup vocals for almost all of the songs on MCIS only to have Billy cut them at the last second. he wouldn't let her sing. and now all this false positivity on his instagram because he is nervous as fuck, this tour looks like a disaster, and he totally posted that "proposed" song list the day tickets went on sale purely to generate headlines. he asked fans to post and hashtag any favorites he might've missed. AND THEN he goes on instagram the next day and says "whoa whoa whoa, i only asked for 1 or 2 suggestions, not whole setlists, also why did you flood my DMs? you were supposed to hashtag. besides i've been writing setlists for 35 years, I think I've got this." FUCK YOU
I know this might all be so obvious to some of you but the extent to which SP's "abusive household" dynamic and Billy's unrelenting toxicity to everyone that ever cared about him AND his inexplicable disdain for his fans is all becoming clearer and it makes me sick.
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
I never noticed how much Amanda Knox looks like Billy Corgan before
― raise my chicken finger (Willl), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
I've been listening to Gish again thanks to all these threads and I still love the whole thing, though now "I'm Going Crazy" bugs me because it seems like he tacked that filler on at the end because no way was D'arcy gonna have the last word on his album.
― orifex, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
Reading Billy's instagram has reminded me that he's the type of guy who uses the word "whilst."
― Sam Weller, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link
xpost Is that supposed to be the same guitar in every picture? I get the feeling Corgan is the sort to have Fender make him pre-distressed vanity guitars.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
I think even if D'Arcy were involved this tour would not sell, not least because of the last 10 years of SP but also because of the preceding 6 years and also some of the years before that and also because no one likes Billy Corgan and also because BC doesn't like anyone else (including his fans) and also because the band's heyday was two decades ago and it was a moment.
Counterpoint: when the band fought hard against the city to play Chicago for free and ended up donating 100% of net proceeds of the tour to charity. That was cool.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
This may be my favorite opening line to an article that I've ever seen in my entire life. pic.twitter.com/HOWqFymYNk— Matthew D'Ambrosio™ (@drmattdambrosio) February 26, 2018
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link
haha old mpls/st paul 00s indie punk crv member wrote that :)
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
ahahahahaha that is the most incredible thing, fuck you Billy
― frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
that deserves a pulitzer prize
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Monday, 26 February 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
tempted to buy a ticket tbh
― had (crüt), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link