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Good Luck is astounding. Like many elastic bands in unison.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's one of the best songs ever. To release it as a single would really spoil us.

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

And I hate The Bellrays so much!

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

I am scared it will appear at the end of some film where someone teaches someone a lesson. Or on an ad with someone telling someone off and strutting off independently.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, it's tailor made to strut independently and look forward to a brighter tomorrow to.

And Plug It In will be behind some exciting premiership highlights soon enough.

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

"Today's moment of romantic entanglement and emotional turmoil on Smallville was brought to you by Basement Jaxx and Lisa Kekaula with 'Good Luck'".

Hey Anthony, good luck in your new bed! I hope you'll enjoy the record eventually.

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

re:sports highlights. On the last 5-6 years' evidence, this is in fact "Red Alert's" raison d'etre, no?

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

They use The Terrace on BBC! Wasn't Fatboy Slim's I'm Going Out Of My Head popular too?

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

"Red Alert" also sold Coke for awhile. I think I heard "Where's Your Head At?" in a million ads too.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

Including PRINGLES! Where the handlebar mustachioed mascot SANG ALONG!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

(well, okay, lip-synched)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

"cish cash" brings the fucking house down on first listen (I have proven this empirically).

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

i am just champing at the bit to see the 'Lucky Star' video. i have no real criticisms of Kish Kash, it's great dance, great pop, great music. that said i do get this sense of...resignation (almost said defeatism but the Jaxx have SO won whatever war they were/are fighting) about it. not sure how to qualify that statement, but i felt the same after hearing A Hundred Days Off last year - enjoyable album but Underworld were no longer able to SURPRISE, they'd found their level and it's hard to see where they can go to avoid making anything different now. Basement Jaxx face a similar problem - BUT they have more scope in their sound and ideas really. 'Good Luck' is a defiant future echo it's hard to envisage not being moved by. it tends to remind me of Ultra Nate's 'Found A Cure' but that's a far more timid and conventional dance track. as far as i'm concerned there is no greater modern party music, but i've felt that way ever since i first heard 'Fly Life'.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

Agreed, but "modern" is a key word- it still sounds as current as fuck, yet clearly identifiable as the Jaxx on first listen. Can they stay current by just changing their sound each time but making ever bolder/more relevant choices of vocalist?

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

I use "bold" there because Siouxsie and Meshell were a far cry from relevant before this record, IMO.

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think Anthony's comments are empty. I think he's spot on actually about the "context of abundance" issue - one of the potential difficulties with Kish Kash is that it so thoroughly destabilises the "repetitious grooves + surprises and interruptions" approach that defined the Jaxx's production style circa Remedy that at first the constant parading of surprises can seem too easy, like the "repetitious grooves" team forfeited the game at the beginning of the match and the "surprises and interruptions" team have just been kicking balls into the net by themselves.

The album only really comes into its own, I think, when you've listened to it enough that the surprises and interruptions are no longer so startling but rather form the very fabric of the song, such that they sound normal. There's almost nothing more enjoyable than listening to a Basement Jaxx song and waiting for the next little left-field hook to arrive and then hearing it arrive. This is the Jaxx's secret I think - not making grooves that sound wacky so much as making wacky grooves sound like the most natural thing in the world. Of course this doesn't explain the people here who *instantly* thought the album was the best thing ever, but it explains my relationship to it at least.

None of this is a criticism by the way - it's a kind of roundabout compliment actually, and I reiterate that Kish Kash has become my album of the year and favourite of the three (albeit slowly) - but I can see how this process could leave some listeners initially underwhelmed.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

dango. that's the kind of post that actually makes me wanna relisten to the album (not that Blount didn't already achieve that). Thanks, Tim.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 October 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

I'd also try throwing it on random as well. Somehow that worked for me. I think it partially reaffirms the "context of abundance" in that virtually any track can open this album successfully, openers being where we typically expect to be either 1)blown out the window by sheer force of beats and sonic inventiveness or 2)slowly lulled into the album's charms. Kish Kash does both.

That said, I can see not liking the album altogether. Ultimately it's not really *about* anything, it's more propelled by it's own energy. Like sitting and bouncing up and down just cuz. I have no problem at all like this and basically use it to lend that energy to myself! That said I tend to skip over a few tracks that don't fit this reading. "Supersonic" which drags like that REALLY EXCITING PARTY that doesn't have the sense to end (no arc) and "Cish Cash," which is like a fun party trick but eh, repetitive lyrics.

Tonight->Hot N Cold->Living Room is sheer fucking genius, though. And "Lucky Star" is what Dizzee's album sounded like in my head before I heard it!

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

Don't get jealous, the music in my head is not actually that good. I exaggerate.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

I used to be ambivalent "Supersonic" but now I think it's my favourite track maybe.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

I like the swing in the beat- when it first starts it's a blessing- but it takes SO long for anything to actually change. For some reason it bothers me there. I know there's plenty of fireworks over the top but we don't get a chord change for four minutes. Also, harmonicas drive me mad.

I want to be totally supportive of the berserker vocal but it sounds like she just doesn't have enough to do.

Where's that "I just want you to holler right now!" sample from? I swear I've heard it before.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

Its whole kitchen-sink approach to house reminds me heavily of The Avalanches' "Close To You" which is an enormous compliment coming from me. The whole point is that the groove doesn't really change, things just keep getting piled on top way beyond the weight which it is safe for the initial groove to support. It's like a party in an elevator. The best points are the obscured shout-out ("Basement Jaxx new styles..." etc.) followed by the diva's wail, and that weird sampled voice going "Show me you're a man! SHOOOOOWWWW ME YOOOOU'RE A MAN!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

Canny, Tom, but it doesn't make me like it more! Hah. That said I like it enough, it's the most straight-forward house-y track on there and even so it's pushed nearly to the breaking point, isn't it? I let it play most of the time but it's like 9 stars out of ten on an album that's generally about two hundred stars out of ten.

I think the "show me you're a man" bit is the vocalist? Just doing something really wacky with hr voice.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

Er, Tim, I mean. Sorry. I was just talking to a Tom.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still intrigued by the overwhelming love for "Good Luck," which I don't hate or anything but still hasn't made much of an impact beyond me thinking, "Oh, that was nice enough, good start to the album I suppose, no 'Romeo' though." Hm.

One of the nice things about being in London last week -- seeing the huge fuck-off ads for the album everywhere in the Tube.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

The best bit in 'Supersonic' is the "I just wantcha to holler right now!" sample, surely?

Also, Good Luck is way WAY WAY better than Romeo - anyone who thinks otherwise=mentalist.

I'm amazed what a lukewarm reception the album is getting, critically, but yes, every review is saying much the same thing (great 1st half, dodgy 2nd half) but I really don't understand the hate for If I Ever Recover.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:04 (twenty years ago) link

Count me as a dissenting voice then re: 'Good Luck' vs 'Romeo'.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:12 (twenty years ago) link

i'm another one of those romeo mentalists

minna (minna), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link

Let's run off into the promised land of Romeo Mentalists together, minna, and we can be safe from persecution foreva.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:18 (twenty years ago) link

"Romeo" is slightly better, but only because "Romeo" may be their greatest moment ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link

Matt DC must rethink his words.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

Most used Jaxx song in sports highlights: surely "Bingo Bango", especially when used to highlight Brazilian footballers.

Nick H, Monday, 20 October 2003 09:48 (twenty years ago) link

Rendez-Vu > Romeo > Good Luck

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

Set Yo Body Free remains their best track and the blueprint for Kish Kash too. FIGHT OVER THAT MENTALISTS.

I love Romeo, possibly prefer it to Good Luck, but don't make me choose. Good Luck I find is a record really geared towards physical response, I know dancing to Romeo is great but Good Luck seems like some democratisation of drum and bass rhythms which to a dnb illiterate like me is very attractive.

Matt who was hating on If I Ever Recover? As I keep saying I think it is genius.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

Also, am I the only one who thinks the Siouxsie track is fucking mor electroclash toss? I like electroclash but I can think of ten tracks more interesting than that. I don't even listen to it anymore, it's just lame.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

this thread is very long (700th post) - should we start a new one now for people who've, like, bought a copy

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

All U Crazies > Set Yo Body Free

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Romeo" stomps all over "Good Luck" (which is a misleading statement because I really like "Good Luck"). The fairer matchup is between "Romeo" and "Right Here's The Spot".

The "Lucky Star" mentalism still escapes me. It's nice enough but it's rather blatantly the second-worst track on the album (the worst being "Supersonic").

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

Dan you are a mentalist! Lucky Star is great and so is Supersonic! I have only read one review of this album, it was positive. Surprising in the Irish press but then I guess the Jaxx fit into the "we can like this" bracket.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

my review of this album isn't as good as trife and my alternate tracklist up there. but it is almost as jizzy as the first 20 or so posts.

mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

How I would order the tracks from best to worst (excluding interludes, natch):

Right Here's The Spot
Feels Like Home
Plug It In
Cish Cash
If I Ever Recover
Good Luck
Hot N Cold
Living Room
Tonight
Lucky Star
Supersonic

I think the people talking about "Basement Jaxx does the unexpected!" being completely the wrong way of looking at them these days are absolutely correct. The genius of the Jaxx doesn't lie in newness or wackiness as much as it lies in their frightening ability to generate the perfect groove out of anything. (On a complete tangent, I think someone else said this already but "Right Here's The Spot" = "All The Critics Luv U In New York 2003" and is all the better for it.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

I think to say that there isn't a newness and wackiness which is appealing is to like the album in a very different way to myself. I mean I find Lucky Star absolutely manic, and completely wacky, it makes me want to dance because it's just so weird but not just a groove, it's beyond that.

Lucky Star and Jaxx trax at their best don't need to be conventionally banging or loud to make you want to react insanely. I was talking about it on my blog earlier this week, that x factor which makes some tracks feel "harder" or inspires a more over the top physical response. I'm not sure what it is but Lucky Star definitely has it if you ask me.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ha, "Lucky Star" doesn't sound manic at all to me, particularly when compared to "Right Here's The Spot", "Plug It In" and "Cish Cash". (Actually, I think that "Cish Cash" is the epitome of mania for me as far as the album goes.)

Despite the way I ranked the tracks, the true strength of the album lies in the quiet downtempo tracks. "Feels Like Home" is just so effortlessly gorgeous, and "If I Ever Recover" can float through my head all day.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

i think 'Lucky Star' is just as busy, intense and manic as those tracks Dan. it's fantastic and a highlight for me, really glad it's the single. i do love 'Right Here's The Spot' AND 'Supersonic' - the vocal 'mm-hmmm' on that really gets me. 'Plug It In' has grown on me but i'm still hankering for a full length song to come out of 'Cosmolude' - so many great bits on the album - no real weak spot for me - as good as 'Rooty' if not better but i guess 'Remedy' will always be my favourite of the 3 no matter what.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

Stevem is very much reading my mind (the Jaxx song equation upthread).

Ronan's point about dance reactions is pretty otm - I'm the only person I know who could dance to the Cornelius remix of Coldcut for example. Also, I think 'Lucky Star', with its suggestion and tentative embraces of millions of other directions within the song, like the rest of the first half comes off like a series of spasms or some crazy ball of repressed energy that keeps sparking up while someone tries to keep it under control.

Or, uh, that was how I tried to intepret my own thoughts to concur with Ronan's.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

finally got mine. splish splash! but why the big pic of ian brown on the inside sleeve?*

*me being hilarious

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

incidentally, 'Right Here's The Spot' is based on one of the tracks from the Junction EP - 'Get Yo Damn Hands Up' i think

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

"i'm still hankering for a full length song to come out of 'Cosmolude'"

stevem: stop waiting!! buy a robert owens or mr fingers album!

vahid (vahid), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

Basement Jaxx only became 'unexpected' to me once I realised they were way more than the above-average house/dance act I initially perceived them to be (and it's been a few years, I don't trust my initial perceptions like I used to these days). So with Kish Kash, they've defninitely suceeded with defying my expectations and for God's sake journo-types, if you label 'em a dance group, don't blame 'em when they're doing their job. Because they're not only doing their job, they're showing everyone else how it's done at the same time.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

if you label 'em a dance group

Because as we all know they are actually ambient meditative droners.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link


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