Rolling R&B Thread 2008

Adoring Lloyd's "Your Love" - so gimmicky! So great!

aaaayo keri hilson

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1518071&vid=256719

i actually like this song a lot better now than when i originally heard it

still don't like that song but I'd blapp

I just heard Promise again and its dear god, amazing. Also Keri can do better but I hear her vid is gonna be hype.

you're qualified, let's do what freaks do

Keith Sweat's always got it.

ciara's 'high price' finally leaked proper, and haha i kind of love it! but only if the video costs 4 trillion dollars and is directed by matthew barney. he could call himself cremaster flex?

i imagine this was sorta what kelis was hoping for when she worked with bangladesh, whom tricky stewart has ripped off OUTRAGEOUSLY here - the beat's one thing, but doing like a gotterdammerung treatise on en vogue's masterpiece theatre seems more ooh la la bangladesh's perverse sense of humour.

(danja is another one who occasionally falls into the "good thing bangla's so underrated eh" category, btw.)

lol tim that lloyd song is so you it's verging on self-promotion spam. doesn't look like it's gonna be on the album though :(

or 'how we do it in the a' come to think of it! that's odd.

ahhh my hayden panetierre reggae tune is here!! why did no one memo me!

best ever.

I don't think Bangladesh gets to count as underrated anymore post-"A Milli".

Have we talked about Ray J's "Snakes In The Grass" at all?

I downloaded it because of its mysterious title. Immediately assumed it was a hoax. Checked google and it is in fact the real thing. I am appalled/weirdly fascinated.

At the opposite end of the spectrum: I'm loving "Spotlight" despite probably because it could almost be a Showgirls number.

rtc, when you say "High Price" references Masterpiece Theatre, do you mean that outraged operatic thing Ciara does in the verse? Cos yeah that reminds me of "Those Dogs" (which I love) but didn't "Goodies" already do this trick a bit?

"lol tim that lloyd song is so you it's verging on self-promotion spam."

yeah it's almost embarrassing! My first thought when I listened to it was a vague sense that my intellectual property had been infringed. Which I haven't felt since the (missed opportunity) house-pop version of Fleetwood Mac's "Everywhere".

Sadly I don't like "Your Love" as much as I first did since I realised it's like a much much lesser version of Teedra's "Last Day" (mind you, if you put on a wide enough lens pretty much everything is a lesser version of "Last Day").

havent heard 'snakes in the grass' (once again, not on album) but me, kim kardashian, and t-pain suspect it's not gonna be as mysterious titled as it looks nahmean

hmm comparing 'your love' to 'last day' is sort of bewildering me though! do you just mean the way it engages pixelcloudz warpdrive in the chorus, or - cos the weird thing is i'd been playing imaginary video director in my head with it all this week, and plumped for a sorta mishmash of silent running and like lloyd-as-ripley waking up from hypersleep stasis in aliens and finding everything gone, all humanity and (obv) the loverrrr he'd been waiting for etc etc you know how i roll and so on - but without ever really seeing any actual end-of-world finality in 'your love' itself, it seeming to me lyrically any old ballad (with "people change like the weather" the classic ambivalloyd glint) and sonically little more than timberlake 'my love' x bobby val 'anonymous'.

re 'goodies', yeah i suppose, a bit. but then the beat necessitated it somewhat, we had no idea of who she was, it wasnt a schizo banshee bloodbath, many reasons to not enjoy that opinion.

incidentally (hah) do you like the song? i dont even know personally, things always be easier to love than like.

boy i know you want it

but what do you got on it

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/goat.gif

YOU KNOW MEEEEUH!!!!!

Also, do we like LaLa? She's like a more ghetto (much) older version of Jojo also reminds me of JLO circa 'Love Don't Cost A Thing'
Sprung On A Thug
Homegurlz
Also, your thoughts on Asia Crus;
Selfish

-- VeronaInTheClub, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 16:56 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

btw these songs here are all great, big up your cotton socks veronaintheclub

new jazzy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ2lNbed5Is

praise jesus.

this song is absolutely stunning i'm like speechless right now.

"in love with another man" live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IIF9IAQSnU

since i heard it last year this has become like one of my top 50 songs ever she kills it.

i'm getting way too excited for fearless for my own good.

Yes, yes, this stuff is fantastic.

Thanks for keeping us updated, btw.

no problem

(another song 'bust your windows', think this is the second single; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8052WWDadY)

inevitably 'high price' OWNS me, like 40-plays-in-a-row owns me, absolutely immense. money will drive you mad. three choruses! hyped for the triple-cd concept album now. 'goodies' did that high operatic thing for like a bar, it was cici being haughty, high status, in control, here she's so high up it's all a bit dizzying and vertiginous and she's lost her mind a bit.

jazmine sullivan's something special, isn't she? 'need u bad' was real slow burn for me but it got there in the end. that middle 8! sadly all trace of 'lions, tigers & bears' has vanished from youtube and the internet is not providing an mp3, but i loved it when i heard it this morning, that line about how "the most frightening thing is you and me" is brilliant. 'bust your windows' is great too. i like that she's ~not~ obsessed with wanting to be mary j, pace keyshia.

the hayden panettiere song is a bit sub-'stars are blind' but it's ok. the video is ridiculous. this girl is an actor?!

feeling both dear jayne singles, 'fall back' is better than 'rain' though.

new discovery - jimmie reign! 'make you wait' is lovely bedroom r&b, the wisp of cassie haunts it a bit but that's no bad thing. she put out a mixtape a...year back, maybe? with a terrific version of 'my love'.

did we talk about the usher album? so bad :(

haha i almost did a "why haven't we talked about the Usher album here? ::listens:: Oh i see nevermind" revive a few weeks ago

Usher's album is not bad, it's just kind of dull.. but there are a few great songs like "Before I Met You," "Best Thing," "Trading Places," etc... it's just underwhelming compared to, say, 8701. he left a lot of great tracks off of the album like "Echo," which is apparently gonna be on Ciara's new album.

Speaking of CiCi, "High Price" is alright, it's grown on me from when I heard it way back... but it's kind of like a step backwards after The Evolution. Everything I've read about Fantasy Ride sounds great though, i'm excited to hear "Work" and the title track.. I love the concept of the album. "Supernatural" is nice.

really feeling trey songz new single in ya phone and joe - emergency room

ok i just noticed "MY BODY LOOK SOFTER THAN A MCDONALD'S HAMBURGER BUN" in 'high price' and am wondering how this is even a good thing, it is just cici being batshit insane

i really want to like "high price" on account of it being pretty daring and out there for mainstream r&b but the near-opera singing on the voices is fucking loony as shit what the fuck is going on

when she says "MY BODY LOOK SOFTER THAN A MCDONALD'S HAMBURGER BUN" in that high ass voice all i can do is lol

otoh luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuda

on the verses*

am i the only one bothered by the fact that "need u bad" feels six and a half minutes long instead of four? probably

yall got any non-youtube links of those songs? they're all nuked

this thing is (incredibly) batshit though
if i can ever get over this singing i will report back

"hmm comparing 'your love' to 'last day' is sort of bewildering me though! do you just mean the way it engages pixelcloudz warpdrive in the chorus"

Pretty much just this - perhaps just because the trick isn't as common as I would expect (even pixeldust and it's descendants mostly arrive already in warpdrive e.g. "Forever"). And yeah, no end of the world finality thing going on (it still obsesses me that Teedra has written two songs on this topic).

"the weird thing is i'd been playing imaginary video director in my head with it all this week, and plumped for a sorta mishmash of silent running and like lloyd-as-ripley waking up from hypersleep stasis in aliens and finding everything gone, all humanity and (obv) the loverrrr he'd been waiting for etc etc you know how i roll and so on"

Wow this has made me fall in love with it again.

"incidentally (hah) do you like the song? i dont even know personally, things always be easier to love than like."

This is me all the time.

I need to find a higher quality version of "High Price" though, at the moment (on 96k radio rip) I can only observe it's characteristics rather than properly engage with them.

i think 'need u bad' is perfect as it is, too long might be overegging the pudding a bit.

'spotlight' is great too, it works in much the same way as 'bleeding love' ie the first 10 times you hear it you just go "oh, ok" cuz nothing jumps out at you and it's just sort of there, overshadowed by the lunacy of others, and then suddenly it all clicks and you realise it never needed vocal histrionics or anything more than light-touch production cuz the songcraft is so good. i didn't care for 'bleeding love' at all for the first 3938320 weeks it was at no 1 but i listened to it on the bus today and it sounded like such a standard.

tim this version of "high price" is pretty good i think

http://www.zshare.net/audio/1563651270522e3f/

yall got any non-youtube links of those songs? they're all nuked

http://www.iheartmusic.com/cc-common/new/6/player.html?art=1702&loc=2&gateway=exiting

also I don't think "high price" is that out there, it's basically a remix of "oh"

ha, there was no uptake curve on "Bleeding Love" for me. As soon as I heard that fucking organ at the beginning I knew I was gonna love it.

also I don't think "high price" is that out there, it's basically a remix of "oh"

-- The Brainwasher, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

there's way more shit going on than in "oh" which is hard like this but relatively simple

this is where they stay crunk, throw it up, dubs on the cadillac
vocal feats, repeat beats, ilm posters dont know how to act

ha, there was no uptake curve on "Bleeding Love" for me. As soon as I heard that fucking organ at the beginning I knew I was gonna love it.

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 21:43 (Yesterday)

nah man it's when the beat kicks in! that thing knocks.

as i said though, the interesting thing about 'spotlight' is how it doesnt work like 'bleeding love', or other stargate jobs, or most things you hear these days - i guess yeah like tim pointed out, like a musical number

take it no one will cosign any of my indifferences towards 'need u bad'? not even slightly? fine, ima sit here and prefer panetierre.

the interesting thing about 'spotlight' is how it doesnt work like 'bleeding love', or other stargate jobs, or most things you hear these days

it sounds like 'because of you'

work, not sound, though - obviously they have much in common but 'spotlight' seems stark and defiantly unyielding in a way 'because' isn't (and never needs to be); i guess it also subsequently ends up accruing an integrity that makes the stargate/neyo/steppers-pattern meta superfluities melt away sorta like the way they did for 'irreplaceable'.

not wishing to labour the point or anything.

I've only heard "Spotlight" like twice and I can't get it out of my head.

incidentally i'm loving how well the first episode of my ne-yo & plies frasier thing is going! we're filming plies' scenes after lunch, he's just in makeup now.

http://www.rap-up.com/2008/07/11/ne-yo-vacationing-in-the-french-riviera/

http://www.rap-up.com/2008/07/16/ne-yo-vacationing-in-the-french-riviera-pt-2/