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PUT DOWN THE DRUGS AND GIVE US OUR TRACKLISTING

(heh)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

for instance I've just uncovered an awesomely trippy version of Shake Dog Shake from a gig in London 97 with what sounds like a siter or drobey keyboard things going on, really odd. Also a version of Close To Me (closer mix) but LIVE from the same gig, first time played too, sounds great!

mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

sitar......droney...film at eleven.

mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

can i get in on this?
i'll happily find someway to be helpful cause this is some damned fine buisiness

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Wish I could find that recording I had of their 11/85 Radio City show. I was there. It was magic. I am old.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Ditto on the YAY

kephm (kephm), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Intro/Plainsong - Essen Germany 89
2. Fire In Cairo (acoustic) - Birmingham 89
3. A Strange Day - Glastonbury 90
4. Lullaby - Glastonbury 90
5. Disintegration - Glastonbury 90
6. The Big Hand - London Secret Gig 91
7. Harold & Joe - Jonathan Ross Show London 91
8. Doing The Unstuck - London 92
9. Wendy Time - London 92
10. Friday I'm In Love - London 92
11. Three Imaginary Boys - London 92
12. Want - Manchester 96
13. Trap - Manchester 96
14. Shiver & Shake - Manchester 96
15. Bare - Manchester 96
16. Shake Dog Shake - London 97
17. Wrong Number - London 97

I've avoided too much Disintegration/Wish material here, you all have Entreat and Show right? But are we fans of Wrong Number? I've missed off Club America, Mint Car, The 13th could this be a mistake, opinions needed thx.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmmm, nice and thank you. Leaving off "Mint Car" was VERY VERY wise. And "Wrong Number" will be cool to hear live -- I admit I would love to hear a live "The 13th."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

yes a live 13th is ESSENTIAL! a live Club America would be good if there's a particularly great version, but don't go sacrificing Harold & Joe or Wendy Time y'know? and I hope we are all fans of Wrong Number, yes.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay lovelies,
I'm still missing details for:

Dr C
Petrowski
Flowersdie
Fortunate Hazel
Ian Reese Moraine

There's no mad hurry but it would be nice to have the addresses ready.

I'll squeeze a 13th in there too.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So where are we on this?

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I await patiently. But I still cry.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

(heheheh I'm now actually expecting the 4th CD to be a "Push"acopia.)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it too early to start a "This is the thread where we anticipate the release of the Cure's new album in spring 2006"?

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

How about "This is the thread where we debate whether mzui can get Redux out before Bob Smith can cobble together a new album"?

:-P

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, no, not too early at all. *starts slapping arm to raise vein* NEED FIX.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently Porl will indeed be staying for the album.

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

OH DARN

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Info posted on Chain of Flowers that a fellow who interviewed the band in Spain passed on:


- New album next april 2006 with a new Cure World Tour.

- The album will be produced by Robert himself !! Robert told us that Ross Robinson is a great man and he will be involved in the making of the new album but not as a Producer.

- Robert told us that the new album will have keyboards !! Robert and Porl will play them and at the moment they are not thinking about a new cure member.

- Robert is in contact with Severin and maybe he is going to do a collaboration in the new album but not like a new Cure member.

- Robert is really happy with this new line-up. He thinks it was important to take a "new direction" now.

- About Roger : Robert told us that he is a great musician but maybe he wasn't a part of "The Cure soul" . . . they had differences in the way of working and about the future of The Cure so . . . it was better to continue with this new line up.

(after listening to Robert 's words we could suppose that Robert thinks that Roger is an excellent musician but maybe they are people with great "differences" and minds . . .)

- About Perry : This is different beceause : Robert told us that He and Porl had a drink with Perry in an English pub one week before Benicassim and they still have a great relationship. Robert told us that Perry admires Porl as one of the best guitar players in Great Britain.

After listening to Robert's words we thought that maybe Robert and Porl had been thinking about " Porl's comeback" for a long time . . . we saw that
Porl and Robert are more like band members. They were together all night long ( Jason and Simon were in the backstage area), so we understood that Porl has been always a Cure member even when he left the band. Porl told us that he is always in contact with Robert ... so when Robert is recording a new song or just thinking about the future of The Cure . . . Porl supports Robert. For example : Robert told us that they played " Signal To Noise" because Porl wanted to play this song !! so we tought that it's easy to believe that when Robert was thinking about this song (in 2001),
maybe Porl was helping him.

For this reason we all ( Hispacure members ) thought after the meeting that . . . maybe Robert and Porl have been thinking about Porl's comeback for a long time. "The official news" were that Roger and Perry left the band and after Porl would returnto The Cure . . .

But we think that Robert was unhappy with The Cure line up for different reasons.

Roger : they had different opinions . . .

Perry : maybe Robert wanted Porl in the band again and it was better that Perry left. We think that Perry had been the first guitar during more than a decade ... and if Porl returned it'd become a difficult situation for Perry (even if Perry admires Porl). He would have been a second guitar ... and this is really difficult to accept or understand.

- so Robert told us that he is now really happy with the new line up : full of energy . . .

We also spoke about football !! spanish football : Real Madrid and Valencia !! and he told us that he is still a Queen's Park Rangers' supporter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha now watch him ask Lol back and dump Jason for Boris!

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

BACK TO THE FUTURE IV

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

It's coming! *cry*

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

IT'S IN THE TREES!

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

YEAH RIGHT MZUI. What you think we're all just waiting on your kindness because we're lazy bums? Oh wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a lovely Cranes CD for you Ned, and I will remove it from your package if you give me any more lip sonny jim, especially in capitals!

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

*is meek*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Robert is really happy with this new line-up. He thinks it was important to take a "new direction" now.

I love how they trot out this line as if it's a fresh concept and the Cure's lineup *doesn't* change every ten minutes.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh, I'd be willing to make copies of this to send out to others if someone can send a copy to me... damn this looks like some fine work!

patita (patita), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

and dump Jason for Boris!

PLEAAAASE!

I love how they trot out this line as if it's a fresh concept and the Cure's lineup *doesn't* change every ten minutes.

The previous line-up had been solid for almost ten years, that's longer than most bands' entire careers.

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
*whimper*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

*streches*
*waits*

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oy Vey...

CD 4 tracklisting in an hour or two.

I still need addresses from:

Dr C
Petrowski
Flowersdie
Fortunate Hazel
Ian Reese Moraine

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

We're calm folks, mzui, don't worry. *breaks down into floods of tears*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorry Ned but my only decent copy of The 13th has two tape flips in it, so it doesn't make the cut (it was only played live a dozen times y'know) sorry bout that...

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Alas! (Though hmmm...any way interested parties could ask after a fifth bonus disc? I hear they're all the rage these days!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see a problem with that, but it is severely disrupted.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, no worries -- another time. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd almost, almost forgotten about this...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually Ned, If I can find a CD of a Paris 96 gig you might be in luck.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

oooh, i would love to hear the stuff from the top and the head on the door.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

can anyone recommend any bootleg shows from that period?

this seems like a really cool and daunting project btw.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd recommend:

Washington Post Pavillon - 84
Nanako Sun Plaza - 84
'Stained Glass Smile' Various Locations - 85
Glastonbury Festival - 86 (BBC Broadcast)
And the Top Demos...

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks!

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay guys, here is the final, final tracklist...

Disc 1.

1. Meathook - London 79
2. A.M./In Your House (early version) - Birmingham 79
3. 10:15 Sat Night - Paris 80
4. Another Day - Stockholm 80
5. Primary (yellow/cold colours version) - Rennes 80
6. I'm Cold - Rennes 80
7. Plastic Passion - Amsterdam 80
8. Jumping Someone Else's/Another Journey By Train - Amsterdam 80
9. Fire In Cairo - Werchter 81
10. The Holy Hour - Sydney 81
11. Charlotte Sometimes (early version) - Sydney 81
12. Forever - Sydney 81
13. A Short Term Effect - Paris 82
14. Cold - Paris 82
15. Pornography - Paris 82
16. Lament - Elephant Fayre 83
17. Bananafishbones - s'Hertogenbosch 84
18. Bird Mad Girl - s'Hertogenbosch 84
19. Secrets - Washington 84

Disc 2.

1. The Walk - Washington 84
2. The Wailing Wall - Washington 84
3. Happy The Man - Washington 84
4. Caterpillar - Washington 84
5. The Hanging Garden - Ludwigshafen 85
6. Screw - Ludwigshafen 85
7. The Baby Screams - London Camden Palace 85
8. A Night Like This - Glastonbury 86
9. Push - Glastonbury 86
10. A Forest - Glastonbury 86
11. Sinking - Glastonbury 86
12. The Blood - Houston 86
13. Torture - Birmingham 87
14. A Japanese Dream - Birmingham 87
15. Like Cockatoos - Santa Barbara 87
16. How Beautiful You Are - Santa Barbara 87
17. The Perfect Girl - Santa Barbara 87
18. Why Can't I Be You? - Santa Barbara 87
19. It's Not You (acoustic) - Bordeaux 89


Disc 3.

1. Intro/Plainsong - Essen Germany 89
2. Fire In Cairo (acoustic) - Birmingham 89
3. A Strange Day - Glastonbury 90
4. Lullaby - Glastonbury 90
5. Disintegration - Glastonbury 90
6. The Big Hand - London Secret Gig 91
7. Harold & Joe - Jonathan Ross Show London 91
8. Doing The Unstuck - London 92
9. Wendy Time - London 92
10. Friday I'm In Love - London 92
11. Three Imaginary Boys - London 92
12. Want - Manchester 96
13. Trap - Manchester 96
14. Shiver & Shake - Manchester 96
15. Bare - Manchester 96
16. Shake Dog Shake - London 97
17. Wrong Number - London 97

Disc 4.

1. Close To Me - (Live 'Closer Mix' Version) London 97
2. The Last Day Of Summer - Los Angeles 00
3. The Loudest Sound - Mansfield MA 00
4. 39 - Mansfield MA 00
5. Before Three - Everett WA 04
6. Lost - Everett WA
7. The Promise - Imola Italy 04
8. Us Or Them - Imola Italy 04
9. The Lovecats - Coachella Festival 04
10. Hey You - London Barfly 04
11. I Dig You - London Barfly 04
12. I'm A Cult Hero - London Barfly 04
13. A Letter To Elise - Belgium 05
14. The Baby Screams - Belgium 05
15. At Night - Belgium 05
16. 10:15 Saturday Night - Saint Pere 05

71 Tracks of heaven.

There will also be a bonus MP3 CD of the following complete concerts:

1. Olympia Theatre, Paris 1982
2. Washington 1984
3. Hamburg 1985
4. London Olympia 1992
5. Belgium, Grote Kaal 2005
6. Hotel Konrad Sessions (drunken, apres show pissing about on a piano singing cure songs, good fun)

And, if I get my act together (and I'm not promising I will) a DVD of pre 86 live material.

So, I just have to mail the final tracklisting to Josh for the artwork and get the dupes ready, I still need those addresses so if anybody knows the people who still haven't gotten in contact (upthread a bit), please give them a nudge for me or else they will miss out as I only intend to make 15.

And thanks to you all for yer patience, it is much appreciated...

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

GOD AMONGST MEN RIGHT HERE

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Now you know why it took me so damn long..:)

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Good lord man. I take back all my whining and complaints, as you are THE MAN. Or indeed the god!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

3. The Loudest Sound - Mansfield MA 00
4. 39 - Mansfield MA 00

I WAS AT THIS SHOW

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Your girlish screams are immortalized forever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I dropped a line about my interest in this back in the other thread, but I'm not sure anymore. Any chance to still get in on this?

jonviachicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link


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