Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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Drown
1979
Cherub Rock
Mayonaise
Glynis
Soma
Today
Appels + Oranjes
Siva
Ava Adore
Starla
Obscured
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Sweet Sweet
Let Me Give The World To You
Hello Kitty Kat
I Am One
Hummer
This Time
Rhinoceros
Zero
Perfect
Geek USA
Galapogos
Stand Inside Your Love

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

89 Here's to the Atom Bomb 50 1 1

ok i wanna see the "here's to the atom bomb at no. 1" ballot

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

There's my #1.

― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:38 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i missed this!!! ray!!!!!!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

I was a a Drown #1 voter. Got the Singles Soundtrack the week it came out. Took it out to the swimming hole every day and played it on the boombox while we swam. On top of just being a mighty, majestic song, the feedback solo was probably the first thing like that I ever heard and just the way it moved around like the river flowing and the wind and sunshine through the trees. It was like natural and alien at the same time. I wasn't getting high yet - just this ultimate feeling of being 13 years old and totally free. That one and May This Be Love were my favorite tracks on the album - the aquatic tunes.

how's life, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

which version do you prefer xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

Hummer
Snail
Soma
Starla
By Starlight
Bury Me
Rocket
Geek USA
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
For Martha
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Luna
Obscured
Mayonaise
Farewell and Goodnight
Beautiful
Rhinoceros
Cherub Rock
Thirty-Three
1979
Muzzle
To Sheila
Tonight, Tonight
Drown
Crush

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

feedback solo at the end of drown is just... idk, it's so obvious to be like "just make the guitars sound like they're drowning" and yet it's the best. great post how's life

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

That was kind of beautiful, how's life.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

89 Here's to the Atom Bomb 50 1 1

ok i wanna see the "here's to the atom bomb at no. 1" ballot

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, April 8, 2018 11:44 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's my #1.

― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:38 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i missed this!!! ray!!!!!!!!

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, April 8, 2018 11:44 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:(

POINTEDLY this is the New Wave version.

Some day I will write a huge essay about how and why this should have been the last Pumpkins song ever released.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

My ballot, 20/25 placed:

Stand Inside Your Love
1979
Hummer
Here Is No Why
To Forgive
Rocket
Galapogos
Pennies
Drown
The Boy
Whir
Quiet
Mayonaise
Daydream
Crush
Set the Ray to Jerry
Muzzle
Obscured
Age of Innocence
Try, Try, Try
Perfect
...said sadly
Medellia of the Gray Skies

Tonight Tonight
Cherub Rock

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

POINTEDLY this is the New Wave version.

Some day I will write a huge essay about how and why this should have been the last Pumpkins song ever released.

― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:47 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the new wave version is really the superior one yes. it's such a bizarre song, v monochromatic

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

i love it and i love that you love it that much of course

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

Yeah, for sure. I played it kinda relentlessly when Machina 2 came out, like I was searching for clues in it.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

Obsessions are what keep us alive, right, Brad?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

dammmmmmn what a top ten. would never in a million years have imagined "hummer" so high. it's such a great album cut, never think of it as one of the great anthems or anything but it is hard to find much wrong with it and clearly it has much to appeal both to Vig-era fans and the Gish die-hards. and i for one think "life's a BUMMER!" is an awesome moment and a major enhancement to the song. lol at "I like to imagine this song predicts the commercial failure of Hum." hot damn at Drown as #3. strong chance it would have been #1 if it'd been on an album?

mayonaise, which i had at #6, beating 1979, which i had way down at #23, is what seals the deal for me. this is an awesome countdown. thanks ufo, this rocks, and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.

i almost had "here's to the atom bomb" in my ballot and then the only version i could find for my listening playlist was the one from the greatest hits which i'd never heard before and was SO WRONG that it kinda put me off thinking about or listening to the song.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

i also like the o.g. machina version as a two chord raveup, it doesn't really work but it's interesting xp to ray

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

Where is the other version of "Atom Bomb"? There's only one on Machina II, right? (Going to admit that I don't remember what it sounds like.)
2xp I guess that's the answer but lol that it was on a greatest hits album.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

Doctor Casino I feel this

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

Gish IS Vig-era!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link

the other version of Atom Bomb was a Machina b-side

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Sund4r this is the greatest hits version, which has always seemed like the wrong version to my ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUklMu7H3I

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Bolded ones are the ones that placed in the top 66.

Here's to the Atom Bomb (New Wave)
<b>Zero</b>
<b>Rhinoceros</b>
<b> Appels + Oranjes </b>
<b> Pug </b>
<b> Wound </b>
Jupiter's Lament
<b> Galapagos </b>
The Imploding Voice
Crestfallen
<b> Spaceboy </b>
<b> Beautiful </b>
<b> Bullet with Butterfly Wings </b>
<b> For Martha </b>
<b> Glass and the Ghost Children </b>
<b> Today </b>
Landslide
Tarantula
Jellybelly
Try, Try, Try
Let Me Give The World to You
The Everlasting Gaze
Dross
Medellia of the Gray Skies
The Pistachio Medley

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Man, I can't do HTML to save my life

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

lol duh oops abt Vig. sub "SD era"

came close to this being my first ILM poll where my entire ballot placed. "This Time" at #25 (73 in the results) was the exception. "Rocket," my #1 made it to 13, and all of my top ten made the top twenty except for "Muzzle" which I had at #2 and "Where Boys Fear To Tread," my #5.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

your HTML is fine but sadly ILX uses bbcode (trust that button next to "Submit Post" on desktop)

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.

Oh yeah this as well! Always really liked the band's choice of similar-but-different fonts across the SD/MCIS/Adore art so was really happy to see them being used on the rollout images.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Luna
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Galapagos
Meladori Magpie
Rotten Apples
Blank Page

1979
I of the Mourning
Snail
Jellybelly
Here is No Why
Hummer
X.Y.U.
Thirty-three
Rocket
Beautiful
Today
Cherub Rock
Vanity
If There is a God

Tales of a Scorched Earth
Hello Kitty Kat
Marquis in Spades
Wound

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

My list, bold didn't place:

Mayonaise
Thirty-Three
Whir
To Forgive
Perfect
Starla
Soma
Spaceboy
1979
Medellia of the Gray Skies
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Stand Inside Your Love
This Time
Tonight, Tonight
Cherub Rock
Galapagos
Luna
Pulseczar
The Imploding Voice
Silverfuck
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Cupid de Locke
Daydream
Bury Me
X.Y.U.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

84 Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 58 3 0
100 Landslide 34 4 0
120 The Everlasting Gaze 8 1 0

sadly not the locks on the top tier that some thought. who on earth voted for "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning"?!

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

no one else voted for Blank Page?

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

I like the cover of "Landslide" fine but that would have been a hilarious pick for a top 10 entry.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

Blank Page was 45

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

blank page placed flappy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

Oh shit lol my b

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

Dang i must’ve missed that round

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

i even posted the live video in your absence

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

Ha, I actually prefer the GH version of "Atom Bomb".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

The GH version isn't horrible - it's probably just that thing about preferring the first version I heard of a song.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

i even posted the live video in your absence


thank you

blank page i think has his most beautiful singing on it of any pumpkins recordings

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

Whoa, that was a near-perfect Top 10. Only problem I have with it is 'For Martha' isn't in it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

To elaborate: the M2 version of "Bomb" feels like some heartsick, washed out, electronic end-of-the-world. It's as far removed from the band's beginnings as possible; it's barely human except for the singing, super programmed, cybernetic, weird. So when Corgan's voice cuts out at the end there it's as though he's been deleted, and the vocal or lack thereof becomes the gap he's been singing about for the length of that song (though the song itself seems to be about Corgan himself, or the persona he put forth, and being older but still kind of being the same outsider figure, etc). It's a quietly devastating ending to this song.

The GH version has this sunny, twangy guitar that lends it feel that's totally different and somehow less sad and final.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

He's been deleted, or he's deleted himself - that's another way to think about it. This is probably the only Pumpkins song I've spent time overthinking this way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWcO_oLLCM

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

i associate "atom bomb" strongly with kid a and amnesiac-era radiohead bc i was listening to both a lot at the time so i definitely understand the "lead singer erasing himself" vibe you get from it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

Interesting angle - I wonder if Corgan was/is a Radiohead fan?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

suspect he liked the records but hated their success. critics always putting him in the back.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

Made a playlist of my ballot, which I think will be a v enjoyable way to listen to this band: https://open.spotify.com/user/1297256761/playlist/6EaySAiougJgnxwZdXSaiQ?si=UpkfjWPRT0OLWa92NJ7zDQ

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

think the only song i don't like in the complete results is the "dreaming" cover

Sorry, Brad.

1979
Zero
Galapogos
Thirty-Three
Muzzle
Tonight, Tonight
Once Upon a Time
Dreaming
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Cupid de Locke
Try Try Try
Here Is No Why
Jellybelly
Rocket
Clones (We're All)

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

it's ok i just don't think the arrangement adds anything to the song. good ballot!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

Thanks!

It's a radical enough transformation that I feel that it and the original come off as different songs, which happens far less often with covers than it should.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link


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