Drown1979Cherub RockMayonaiseGlynisSomaTodayAppels + OranjesSivaAva AdoreStarlaObscuredBullet with Butterfly WingsSweet SweetLet Me Give The World To YouHello Kitty KatI Am OneHummerThis TimeRhinocerosZeroPerfectGeek USAGalapogosStand Inside Your Love
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
89 Here's to the Atom Bomb 50 1 1
ok i wanna see the "here's to the atom bomb at no. 1" ballot
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
There's my #1.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:38 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh i missed this!!! ray!!!!!!!!
I was a a Drown #1 voter. Got the Singles Soundtrack the week it came out. Took it out to the swimming hole every day and played it on the boombox while we swam. On top of just being a mighty, majestic song, the feedback solo was probably the first thing like that I ever heard and just the way it moved around like the river flowing and the wind and sunshine through the trees. It was like natural and alien at the same time. I wasn't getting high yet - just this ultimate feeling of being 13 years old and totally free. That one and May This Be Love were my favorite tracks on the album - the aquatic tunes.
― how's life, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
which version do you prefer xp
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
HummerSnailSomaStarlaBy StarlightBury MeRocketGeek USAPorcelina of the Vast OceansFor MarthaThru the Eyes of RubyLunaObscuredMayonaiseFarewell and GoodnightBeautifulRhinocerosCherub RockThirty-Three1979MuzzleTo SheilaTonight, TonightDrownCrush
― jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
feedback solo at the end of drown is just... idk, it's so obvious to be like "just make the guitars sound like they're drowning" and yet it's the best. great post how's life
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
That was kind of beautiful, how's life.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, April 8, 2018 11:44 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, April 8, 2018 11:44 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
:(
POINTEDLY this is the New Wave version.
Some day I will write a huge essay about how and why this should have been the last Pumpkins song ever released.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
My ballot, 20/25 placed:
Stand Inside Your Love1979HummerHere Is No WhyTo ForgiveRocketGalapogosPenniesDrownThe BoyWhirQuietMayonaiseDaydreamCrushSet the Ray to JerryMuzzleObscuredAge of InnocenceTry, Try, TryPerfect...said sadlyMedellia of the Gray SkiesTonight TonightCherub Rock
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:47 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the new wave version is really the superior one yes. it's such a bizarre song, v monochromatic
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
i love it and i love that you love it that much of course
Yeah, for sure. I played it kinda relentlessly when Machina 2 came out, like I was searching for clues in it.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
Obsessions are what keep us alive, right, Brad?
dammmmmmn what a top ten. would never in a million years have imagined "hummer" so high. it's such a great album cut, never think of it as one of the great anthems or anything but it is hard to find much wrong with it and clearly it has much to appeal both to Vig-era fans and the Gish die-hards. and i for one think "life's a BUMMER!" is an awesome moment and a major enhancement to the song. lol at "I like to imagine this song predicts the commercial failure of Hum." hot damn at Drown as #3. strong chance it would have been #1 if it'd been on an album?
mayonaise, which i had at #6, beating 1979, which i had way down at #23, is what seals the deal for me. this is an awesome countdown. thanks ufo, this rocks, and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.
i almost had "here's to the atom bomb" in my ballot and then the only version i could find for my listening playlist was the one from the greatest hits which i'd never heard before and was SO WRONG that it kinda put me off thinking about or listening to the song.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
i also like the o.g. machina version as a two chord raveup, it doesn't really work but it's interesting xp to ray
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
Where is the other version of "Atom Bomb"? There's only one on Machina II, right? (Going to admit that I don't remember what it sounds like.)2xp I guess that's the answer but lol that it was on a greatest hits album.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
Doctor Casino I feel this
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
Gish IS Vig-era!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
the other version of Atom Bomb was a Machina b-side
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
Sund4r this is the greatest hits version, which has always seemed like the wrong version to my ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUklMu7H3I
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
Bolded ones are the ones that placed in the top 66.
Here's to the Atom Bomb (New Wave)<b>Zero</b><b>Rhinoceros</b><b> Appels + Oranjes </b><b> Pug </b><b> Wound </b>Jupiter's Lament<b> Galapagos </b>The Imploding VoiceCrestfallen<b> Spaceboy </b> <b> Beautiful </b><b> Bullet with Butterfly Wings </b><b> For Martha </b><b> Glass and the Ghost Children </b><b> Today </b>LandslideTarantulaJellybellyTry, Try, TryLet Me Give The World to YouThe Everlasting GazeDrossMedellia of the Gray SkiesThe Pistachio Medley
Man, I can't do HTML to save my life
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
lol duh oops abt Vig. sub "SD era"
came close to this being my first ILM poll where my entire ballot placed. "This Time" at #25 (73 in the results) was the exception. "Rocket," my #1 made it to 13, and all of my top ten made the top twenty except for "Muzzle" which I had at #2 and "Where Boys Fear To Tread," my #5.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
your HTML is fine but sadly ILX uses bbcode (trust that button next to "Submit Post" on desktop)
and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.
Oh yeah this as well! Always really liked the band's choice of similar-but-different fonts across the SD/MCIS/Adore art so was really happy to see them being used on the rollout images.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness LunaPorcelina of the Vast OceansGalapagosMeladori MagpieRotten ApplesBlank Page1979I of the MourningSnailJellybellyHere is No WhyHummerX.Y.U.Thirty-threeRocketBeautifulTodayCherub RockVanityIf There is a GodTales of a Scorched EarthHello Kitty KatMarquis in SpadesWound
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
My list, bold didn't place:
MayonaiseThirty-ThreeWhirTo ForgivePerfectStarlaSomaSpaceboy1979Medellia of the Gray SkiesMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessStand Inside Your LoveThis TimeTonight, TonightCherub RockGalapagosLunaPulseczarThe Imploding VoiceSilverfuckThru the Eyes of RubyCupid de LockeDaydreamBury MeX.Y.U.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
84 Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 58 3 0100 Landslide 34 4 0120 The Everlasting Gaze 8 1 0
sadly not the locks on the top tier that some thought. who on earth voted for "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning"?!
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
no one else voted for Blank Page?
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
I like the cover of "Landslide" fine but that would have been a hilarious pick for a top 10 entry.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
Blank Page was 45
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
blank page placed flappy
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
Oh shit lol my b
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
Dang i must’ve missed that round
i even posted the live video in your absence
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
Ha, I actually prefer the GH version of "Atom Bomb".
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
The GH version isn't horrible - it's probably just that thing about preferring the first version I heard of a song.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
Whoa, that was a near-perfect Top 10. Only problem I have with it is 'For Martha' isn't in it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link
To elaborate: the M2 version of "Bomb" feels like some heartsick, washed out, electronic end-of-the-world. It's as far removed from the band's beginnings as possible; it's barely human except for the singing, super programmed, cybernetic, weird. So when Corgan's voice cuts out at the end there it's as though he's been deleted, and the vocal or lack thereof becomes the gap he's been singing about for the length of that song (though the song itself seems to be about Corgan himself, or the persona he put forth, and being older but still kind of being the same outsider figure, etc). It's a quietly devastating ending to this song.
The GH version has this sunny, twangy guitar that lends it feel that's totally different and somehow less sad and final.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
He's been deleted, or he's deleted himself - that's another way to think about it. This is probably the only Pumpkins song I've spent time overthinking this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWcO_oLLCM
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
i associate "atom bomb" strongly with kid a and amnesiac-era radiohead bc i was listening to both a lot at the time so i definitely understand the "lead singer erasing himself" vibe you get from it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
Interesting angle - I wonder if Corgan was/is a Radiohead fan?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
suspect he liked the records but hated their success. critics always putting him in the back.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
Made a playlist of my ballot, which I think will be a v enjoyable way to listen to this band: https://open.spotify.com/user/1297256761/playlist/6EaySAiougJgnxwZdXSaiQ?si=UpkfjWPRT0OLWa92NJ7zDQ
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
think the only song i don't like in the complete results is the "dreaming" cover
Sorry, Brad.
1979ZeroGalapogosThirty-ThreeMuzzleTonight, TonightOnce Upon a TimeDreamingPorcelina of the Vast Oceans Bullet With Butterfly WingsCupid de LockeTry Try TryHere Is No WhyJellybellyRocketClones (We're All)
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
it's ok i just don't think the arrangement adds anything to the song. good ballot!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
Thanks!
It's a radical enough transformation that I feel that it and the original come off as different songs, which happens far less often with covers than it should.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
None of us voted for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeDiARw8q78
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link