Kanye West's new 2018 album

Written by the same guy who gave TLOP a 9

you can believe all the things said in that piece and still think that TLOP is a good album

Except that he didn't give TLOP a 9. Pitchfork did.

we all gave pablo the nine we deserved

Written by the same guy who gave TLOP a 9

― frogbs, Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:25 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can believe all the things said in that piece and still think that TLOP is a good album

― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:28 PM

you can even read the piece and think he still thinks so

it's a fine piece and Greene is a v good writer

jayson’s great. his piece is p much the only one about kanye in the past week that hasn’t annoyed me with the constant handwringing (cf. the ringer aka the handringer)

if you love then you handwring on it

https://i.imgur.com/zZjuEx5.jpg

It was a great piece. I almost posted on my wall but I'm trying to avoid posting stuff about KW.

To be fair, I didn't agree with the 9.0 - TLOP is where I definitively realized that this wasn't a ride I really needed to be on. The truth of that album is probably better embodied in this piece, from before we knew what TLOP would actually be.

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/796-kanye-west-is-going-to-drop-a-brick-and-its-going-to-hurt/

(And yes, I know I, am out in the wilderness in a minority who believe that TLOP is a handful of flashes of guiltily entertaining/semi-inventive fun surrounded by a ton of chaff.)

Yeah it's pretty uneven

(And yes, I know I, am out in the wilderness in a minority who believe that TLOP is a handful of flashes of guiltily entertaining/semi-inventive fun surrounded by a ton of chaff.)

― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, May 4, 2018 5:16 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no i think you see it clearly raymond

TLOP the only Kanye I don't think I've ever heard. I think I only heard Yeezus once and it sort of bugged me. So in my mind, My Beautiful Dark Twisted So-Called Life was the end of the Kanye ride. FWIW, my daughter, who I don't think has so much as said the name Kanye before yesterday, brought me over to her phone to play what is I guess is his new single, mostly because she thought it was so stupid she wanted me to hear it.

only time I listened to Yeezus I remember one of the tracks cutting into this tight little knotty instrumental bit and thinking that was really fascinating. then the bit kept going and going, until finally I realized that my iPod had glitched out and cut into a Field Music album. which it has never done before or since. I decided to just listen to the rest of that and never really wanted to hear Yeezus again

The Poopity Scoop one or the one of him debating politics with TI?

Yeezus is maybe my favorite thing he's done tbh, particularly the first half. MBDWF has a few great tracks and a lot of whatever. TLOP straight up sucked.

xpost I think it was the Poopity Scoop one. That seems like something that would scan as stupid to her.

She was all, "dad, you've got to hear this?" So I ask, "what?" And she says it's the Kanye West song. And I tell her I am pretty tired of Kanye West. And she says, no, you have to hear this! So I walk over and she holds up her phone and I hear him all "poopity scoop" or whatever and I say, oh, that, yeah, I heard people talking about that. And she was cracking up.

that Pitch piece is very good

Jayson and Mark have always been my favorite Pitchfork writers.

i miss the chop up the soul kanye

ok the p4k piece is very good, sorry yall

we literally all agree it is good

yea I know, I mean w/r/t me pointing out "Lol this guy gave TLOP a 9"

which, IDK...just never got much out of that album

i miss the chop up the soul kanye

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 4, 2018 11:27 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he does this on poopity scoop!

"poopity scoop" ... how can yall even bother

Otm Marcos

Almost
Offed myself reading
That

i miss the chop up the soul kanye

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 4, 2018 11:27 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he does this on poopity scoop!

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, May 4, 2018 11:43 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true! maybe it's gonna be a throwback

Two scoops of raisin

"Poopity Scoop" (formally known as "Lift Yourself")

Perhaps Zach G and Bonnie Prince Billy will make a video where they're dog park employees cleaning up the grounds

Love the piece but the elephant in the room is that even by his own standards, Kanye is no genius and has never been.

Otm

He's not even top 5 rap producers material imo

Maybe top 5 jackasses?

For the record, I do believe he is a great musical artist, up until Yeezus I did enjoy his records a lot, and maybe he is a great designer I don’t know that stuff. However, everytime he is on the same line as Einstein or Picasso, it just makes me barf.

Also to add to the broader idea of that great piece: I have no statistics to back this up this is really just ime, but I have a feeling that there is huge overlap on that venn diagram between sexual assaulter and people socially perceived as geniuses (can be in smaller spheres than national fame that a Kanye or a Woody are granted)

his shoes look some space macrame ass

Psh, shows you, all genius looks like ass.

TNC: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/05/im-not-black-im-kanye/559763/

great piece

v good indeed, though the praise of the the consistent, amazing, near-peerless quality of [Kanye's] work feels off to me

Is it fair to say that Kanye West is the first black hip-hop artist who truly crossover-ed to a white audience from really early in his career? And that it might be that this audience and his desire to cultivate that very audience might have informed his career in ways that it didn't for other hip-hop artists, past and present?

that's not the case

Little Stevie Wonder wants a word with you

Is it fair to say that Kanye West is the first black hip-hop artist who truly crossover-ed to a white audience from really early in his career?

nah. NWA springs to mind.

literally any hip hop artist who has sold a lot of records has crossed over to a white audience

true, but it took Run DMC three albums to get there