The Beatles' Solo Careers Poll - Voting and General Discussion Thread

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"Band on the Run" and "Jet" are probably competitive with "Live & Let Die" for famousness. "Maybe I'm Amazed" for belovedness.

Me, I just hope something from Tug of War gets some love. "Take it Away" perhaps.

moresoupial (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link

I loved this Taylor Parkes article about the low-key weirdness of so much of 70s McCartney':

Though they feature a great many pale burlesques of funk or blues or disco or doo-wop, these records occupy a unique space within pop — in some ways, they're barely recognisable as pop music at all. Except in the most superficial sense, they bear no relation to the work of McCartney's contemporaries, nor to anything that came before (or has come since). Not because they're personal — McCartney let little of himself into his work — nor because they push back boundaries, or break new ground (they do neither). They just seem to ignore most of pop's basic obligations. Few of these songs mean anything at all; they're rarely exciting in a purely visceral sense; they never tell a story, or attempt to blow your mind; they're seldom uplifting, or plaintive, or gross. They are utterly useless objects, which seem content simply to exist. This is their (very) peculiar charm.

http://thequietus.com/articles/01922-paul-mccartney-the-beatles-wings-the-best-of

soref, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

idrc Macca ever playing with Oasis?

― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah me neither

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's because he didn't! I'm referring to Lennon's voice on 'I'm Outta Time', which counts because it features him!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

wow that is v otm

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

I'm referring to Lennon's voice on 'I'm Outta Time', which counts because it features him!

samples don't count

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link

the Beatle in question has to have actively participated in the recording

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

sure

this principle makes picking votes on Liverpool Sound Collage harder too

Twin Freaks edition of Maybe I'm Amazed btw

I'm referring to Lennon's voice on 'I'm Outta Time', which counts because it features him!

brb, voting Beastie Boys for 100 points

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

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chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

brb, voting Beastie Boys for 100 points

lol I resisted making this very joek

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link

No Grey Album guys

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

yeah i buy that parks take on macca. he's like a more musically inspired, varied and energetic version of like, beach boys love you, just this stoned goofball recording things because he has tunes in him and recording things is what he knows how to do. throwing all his rocker passion and all his tuneful hook-finding instincts behind nonsensical inanities. to be clear "morse moose and the grey goose" and "junior's farm" will almost assuredly be on my ballot so i am 100% in favor of this approach.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

Extra Texture is worse if that's possible. At least DH has an anonymous mid '70s studio rock professionalism.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:15 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like 'You' (which is an All Things Must Pass era outtake) and 'This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)', mostly because of the Moog bass, but the rest is mid-tempo, beard stroking tedium. Dark Horse has a decent instrumental opener, and 'Simply Shady', but even that's sunk by the woeful condition of George's voice which even on a good day isn't a beautiful instrument to listen to. The rest of the record sucks.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

I'm going to allow any non-Beatles track that features the appearance of at least one Beatle.

^ 'I'm Outta Time' totally counts under this criteria!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link

can we ban Turrican from the results thraed pre-emptively

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

I don't buy that Parks take on Macca at all. The "stoner goofball" shit on McCartney II is just one side of what he does.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

I like this a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOrTNBKUisw

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

that Quietus piece nails it imo

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

xxxpost:

Oh do be quiet. For what it's worth, I'm not much into that particular rule anyway, which is why none of that stuff will be appearing on my ballot.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

I'd forgotten about 'Love Comes to Everyone' ... I thought some of Harrison's late '70s stuff was pretty decent, particularly Thirty-Three & 1/3 which I'd rank as his second best solo LP.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

I can think of a few Lennon & Harrison deep cuts to include, but I suspect most of 'em will be McCartney tracks.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

Quietus quote sounds like any other description of a popular act you dont like/get, nothing specifically mccartney about it

niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link

glad to see this POLL on the run though, esp looking forward to hearing some deep cuts from Ringo and Harrison!

niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link

hmm I guess the journalist does like macca but he sure is weirdly mean in that article

niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

looking forward to hearing some deep cuts from Ringo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZN_8M4OpMo

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

Worst song ever, that one.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link

if you consider the solo work then during the Beatles' final years they recorded two full Beatles albums a year PLUS a bunch of additional stuff incl. George's lovely soundtrack & minimalist LP, 3-4 field recording/noise records, 2 albums worth of krautrock sessions (Ringo-John-Klaus-Yoko), Paul's lofi 4-track DIY album.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link

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was gonna post Back of Boogaloo but is that a Ringo deep cut? are there such things? isn't every song of his a deep cut?

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

the weird thing for me is that while I find plenty of Macca's stuff pleasant, I'm hard-pressed to consider what I think his greatest solo songs are. a lot of his hits seem slight or just stupid, and the ones that I consider very good don't really measure up to the more canonical hits from John and George's early runs. I mean, sure "Band on the Run" or "Live and Let Die" are good but ... they aren't *that* great.


“Junk” is my favorite of them all. Achingly beautiful & sad song. Also you don’t like “Crackerbox Palace”???

flappy bird, Friday, 11 May 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

His biggest UK hit and a top ten here. I'd say not. But the only Ringo songs I hear on lite FM are "The No No Song" and "It Don't Come Easy."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

the weird thing for me is that while I find plenty of Macca's stuff pleasant, I'm hard-pressed to consider what I think his greatest solo songs are.

since 2000:

queenie eye
this never happened before
your way
new
rinse the raindrops
english tea
dsnce tonight
appreciate
mr bellamy
only mama knows

karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link

also harrison's self-titled album is a triumph imo, especially blow away

karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link

"Blow Away" rivals anything by McCartney for sheer loveliness. Harrison could write a melody.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:54 (six years ago) link

I'm no McCartney fan but I would rep pretty hard for "Another Day", "Uncle Albert" and even "Let 'em In". Maybe childhood nostalgia.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 11 May 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link

This’ll be high on my ballot. Written by George, performed by Beatles minus John plus Clapton:
https://youtu.be/TEJBItLnw5I

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 May 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link

this will be a really fun poll to think about. i'm excited to revisit george harrison and see if i can find things to like beyond ATMP and LitMW.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 11 May 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link

I think Brainwashed is a real nice album.

JoeStork, Friday, 11 May 2018 05:50 (six years ago) link

DOES ANYONE ELSE REP FOR BLINDMAN THE B-SIDE OF BACK OFF BOOGALOO?

Ahem.. Definition of deep cut.

Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2018 06:05 (six years ago) link

Ballot of 100 tracks? I'll end up going those apple jam tracks, I just know..

Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2018 06:07 (six years ago) link

I mean, sure "Band on the Run" or "Live and Let Die" are good but ... they aren't *that* great.

agreed, those are definitely not Pauls's best solo songs

personally don't really rate live & let die but it was v cool when all the fireworks went off in the chorus when I saw him live

niels, Friday, 11 May 2018 09:33 (six years ago) link

this will be a really fun poll to think about. i'm excited to revisit george harrison and see if i can find things to like beyond ATMP and LitMW.

― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, May 11, 2018

I may be the only person on ILM who rates Cloud Nine.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 10:21 (six years ago) link

Jeff Lynne-isms aside I am a big fan of the deep cuts like Fish On The Sand and If Just For Today.

Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Friday, 11 May 2018 10:50 (six years ago) link

Turns out Harrison and Lynne were a better artist-producer pair than any of Lynne's subsequent collaborations.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link

I may be the only person on ILM who rates Cloud Nine.
no way, it's got "When We Was Fab" and "Got My Mind Set on You"

niels, Friday, 11 May 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

That's def true - Lynne's strengths as a producer compensated for George's weaknesses as a performer. My only real stylistic complaint about that stuff is how boring/robotic the rhythms could get.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

Xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link

And while George is the only Beatle who might've credibly moonlighted as a pop producer, by 1987 he'd run out of ideas – Lynne was perfect for him.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

Looks like I could end up with six tracks from Ram. We shall see.

timellison, Friday, 11 May 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

brainwashed has some good cuts

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link

100? I can maybe squeeze out 20. Either I'm not that big a fan, or I just haven't heard enough. (Just hits past '70 or '71.) Did double-check to see if George played on Badfinger's "Day After Day," and he did, so I can vote for that.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link


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