Man, the songs, arrangements and performances of those first six or 7 albums - in five years! - are just so creative and incredible.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
That is a fair assessment. My basic path is as follows:
My Aim Is True - classicThis Year's Model - very goodArmed Forces - great but unevenGet Happy - great but unevenTrust - great but unevenAlmost Blue - classicImperial Bedroom - classic but overreaches in a few placesPunch the Clock - classic
(We don't discuss Goodbye Cruel World)
King of America - classicBlood & Chocolate - very goodSpike - great but uneven
(Then I snooze for a while)
All This Useless Beauty - classicKojak Variety - very good
(Then I just can't anymore. River of Dud. North is the dullest record I ever bought on purpose.)
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
Hmm, I'd say:
My Aim is True: Classic but unevenThis Year's Model: ClassicArmed Forces: Mostly classicTrust: Mostly classicGet Happy: Not uneven but just short of classicAlmost Blue: outlierImperial Bedroom: Uneven but classicTrust: Classic but unevenPunch the Clock: Pretty consistent but not classicKing of America: Classic but unevenBlood and Chocolate: Mostly classicSpike: solid/unevenvarious b-sides collections: by definition uneven, but pretty greatmost everything else: mostly uneven but sometimes pretty good North and beyond: good if you only listen to music promoted by NPR
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link
Im verrry close to josh on the shape of the curve, but my drop off starts after punch the clock- i always wonder if i just ran out of fucks to give, so...good enuf. I mean i’ve had several others since ptc but so uneven for me and just not special as collections or works.
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:21 (six years ago) link
Id bump up imperial bedroom, to me it is a stone cold classick
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
KOA has garbage: Eisenhower Blues, The Poisoned Rose, Glitter Gulch, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
The way I think of it is, those first albums are sooooo good, the playing and arrangements and most of the songs and all, that ... what more do I want? Just an incredible run with the Attractions. I can't imagine anyone staying that good for much longer.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link
I don't like Glitter Gulch (It's EC's Lily Rosemary & the Jack of Hearts, which I also don't like), but I like Poisoned Rose and Don't Let Me...
I generally agree about the drop-off in quality and consistency but I love ATUB.
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link
Side 1 of Trust remains his high point for me.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
Side 2 of This Year's Model, man
― paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link
"Black and White World" from Get Happy
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Even when the songs aren't at their absolute best the performances are never less than a total joy. I could listen to the Attractions tune.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
I had a weird experience with Elvis because I listened to Spike and the Brodsky Quartet records first - I used to love "Let Him Dangle", of all songs - before I moved to the earlier, better stuff.
I like every record up to and including "Useless Beauty", with the exception of Kojak Variety, which, in retrospect, is the real preview of Elvis's terrible 2000s - not the Brodsky record, which I don't mind at all. Kojak has all the bad qualities - weird song choice, charmlessness, oversinging and boring guitar playing - of his late 90s/2000s work. And then "When I was Cruel" is the first back-to-basics Elvis record that's a complete failure. (It's so hard to listen to! And boring!)
Imperial Bedroom remains the classic for me - the only one I still want to listen to beginning to end without cherry-picking. And King of America sounds really drab to me these days.
Of the late stuff I seem to remember thinking Momofuku was the least terrible.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link
And, I would say, his autobigoraphy is fun and he seems like a mensch these days.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
When I Was Cruel is really good
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Yep. And I loved MLAR in '91.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
Some of my favourite Elvis songs on those records - God's Comic, Couldn't Call it Unexpected, Taking My Life in Your Hands...
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link
Brodsky is great singing record - it's the last one before the raspy vibrato nonsense take over
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
He makes too many long records the last 30 years. When I Was Cruel would have been great with about 20 minutes cut off. Momofuku was a lean 12 songs and excellent. Having said that, all of Brutal Youth justifies the length, but it's (most likely) a one-off of his 50+ minute albums.
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
I like assorted bits of late (?) Elvis. Some of the Toussaint stuff, Spooky Girlfriend. His book was pretty solid; so was his show. I don't mind him; I just won't follow his every move like I did in 1986.
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
spike was also my first; i recall rolling stone heralding it as 'his best since . . .' which was weird because while i like it, blood & chocolate and king of america are both better
macca tho
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
In looking backward I think I have said most of what I want to say already in
Should I decide that I just can't keep up with Mr MacManus?
and the rather more bluntly titled
Elvis Costello: The Exact Moment When This Balding Fat Fucker Jumped The Shark
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
i've been listening to these a lot lately too for some reason after several years of actively avoiding them. to me the drop off started in earnest at Brutal Youth which is still his last great album to me; and then it's varying degrees of 'ok' to 'no' from there. Punch the Clock used to be one of my least favorites from this period but now I'd think it's about on par with Trust. I mean it has Shipbuilding on it for fucks sake.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
Lots of those songs for me blur in a whiz of horn blasts.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link
I didn't to anything of his for a long time until recently, funny how fascism makes certain things more resonant
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
listen to
punch the clock has shipbuilding AND pills and soap, hard to beat that
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
But This Year's Model/Get Happy/Blood and Chocolate will always be my favorites.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
also, I think the first costello album I owned (after Spike) was that Girls Girls Girls comp which is a great comp. It flows like an actual album and the variety of records those tracks came from is pretty huge.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
PT has "Everyday I Write the Book," "Pills and Soap," "Shipbuilding," and nothing else tbh
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
Girls Girls Girls comp which is a great comp. It flows like an actual album and the variety of records those tracks came from is pretty huge.
otm -- I love comps that play as a miscellany (album tracks, singles).
let them talk is a good song.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
also goodbye cruel world isn't great but it's certainly not terrible. Peace In Our Time, Love Field...those are good songs. I'd take that over National Ransom or Delivery Man or that Roots record any day.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
yeah that comp is really good (as are the liner notes iirc)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
and yes I like Juliet Letters. I saw him do this live with the Brodsky Quartet and it was one of the better things I've ever seen in 30 years of seeing shows.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
also "Couldn't Call it Unexpected" is one of his greatest songs. Ok I'm done
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
really like his cover of 'days' on the until the end of the world soundtrack too -- seems like the best use of the ribot weird sounds era
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
I hate the production on Brutal Youth, but it's got some great songs on it. What I really got from the book is that the dude is no mere dilettante, he truly is a wealth of enthusiasm for and knowledge of music that (for better or worse) informs all his records. Also, yeah, one of the few acts whose compilations (hits and b-sides and the like) stand up as albums. Plus, Ryko liner notes are A+. That might be my favorite reissue program of all time. Sound, packaging, bonus tracks, liners, all top notch.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
― akm,
otm
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
Juliet Letters is really better than it could/should have been, for such an odd idea.
I love his title track here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKXH8CD08yw
Stripped down with Frisell here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_xMZ-_XTJ4
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
Oh, and really doesn't get enough credit for Almost Blue. The idea of this guy of all people paying tribute to George Jones, Merle Haggard, or Gram Parsons in 1981 (!) was insanely progressive, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
those frisell things were good, forgot about those. used to have to pay through the nose for that CD.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
All This Useless Beauty - classic
yeah i'm not a costello fan but this is great, esp "the other end of the telescope" and "distorted angel"
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
I loved that when it came out but it hasn't held my attention in the past 10 years. I should revisit it.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
he certainly toured a shitload behind it and did a bunch of duo shows with Steve Nieve (which he bundled up and sold in an overpriced box set)
Walked into an Italian restaurant on Sunday and was surprised to hear This Is Hell playing. Admittedly Elvis was playing in the Playhouse across the road and it was probably just Spotify on random, but still a nice surprise.
After years of never being able to pick a favourite EC album, I think I may have to choose Brutal Youth after all. But like Bowie, no one album comes close in defining him, so there is that.
I personally like the production, clearly a backtracking from the kitchen sink sound of Mighty and Spike and most likely a welcome product of the post-grunge stripped down "BACK TO BASICS" ethos, although I do not believe her ever pushed it as such (thankfully)
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
This last week I've finally heard this and surprisingly like a lot:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsh61d6qBzE
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
it's funny that both MIghty Like a Rose and Brutal Youth are produced by Mitchell Froom. He uses similar reverbs and studio effects on both frankly, but the band makes the difference.
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
xpost I like the Back to Basics approach, I just don't like how BY literally sounds. Unlike This Years Model and Armed Forces, or Trust and Blood n Chocolate, impeccable Nick Lowe productions that are powerful and passionate but also very precise, the Lowe/Froom hybrid of Brutal Youth is just a mess to my ears.I saw one of those Elvis/Steve duo dates, was great.Saw him on Useless Beauty tour, too, which was the last with Bruce, and you could sort of tell.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
For some reason I thought Froom only produced part of that record and three or four songs were handled by Lowe. Maybe I'm just thinking of him playing bass.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link