i hate when people drag politics into my marxism
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
It's nothing to do with political correctness; what little I know of JP makes me want not want to investigate further. But the constant pearl clutching on this forum over things like this (and the increasing lack of discussions about music) is such a bore
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link
sorry for boring you
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
Will nobody think of the music
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link
Unfortunately we can't all be Turrican ;_;
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link
well yeah, there is only a small % of ppl who have a talent for expressing music in the written word, and so thus a dearth of completely riveting flowerings of pure musical discussions!
― calzino, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
i can do it i just choose not to
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link
I was listening to Sky High by Fuxa (one side of a split with Stereolab's 'You Used To Call Me Sadness') yesterday. When life is stressful, which is always, music like that is nothing short of magic, it transports me to this place of tranquility where everything is going to be alright and nobody is being mean or cruel. It was mentioned upthread that the Fuxa guy is a libertarian and this fact will ever so slightly spoil my enjoyment of his music as every time I hear it I will be reminded that its creator believes in the politics of the selfish and infantile. Is that fair? Not at all, no. But it's unavoidable, isn't it?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link
no?
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link
I kinda agree with paul here. I think the tearing down of musicians like this also coincides with Americans that are frustrated their country is a mess and just want to drop shit on anyone who threatens their ideological politics. Not saying this is just Americans were upset by this but the middle ground fell out and we all want blood now. Think of the children 👶
― Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
for fuck's sake
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link
it is a natural, human reaction to be disappointed when someone you're a fan of supports reactionary/misogynist people, particularly if you're part of a group those reactionaries tend to target
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
xp to katherine--no argument. It's just the 'wanting blood' part that bothers me. The discovery of this Sadier tweet--from February--required, what, five thread revives? It's important to remember that this compulsory hair trigger call-out stuff is a relatively new phenomenon and a lot of olds like me are going to struggle with it. It was always known that a ton of artists, directors, authors were pricks and did and / or believed strange and even troubling things, but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
lol boycott
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
Katherine, I also agree with what you said.
This also comes hot off the heels of Rosie being kicked out of pram for her beliefs (which I don’t support of course). But like what a bummer, 10 years later and their singer was axed
― Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
Funny thing is I don't think anyone on this thread has even said they are throwing out their Stereolab records, but don't let that stop you whining about it anyway xp
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
This also comes hot off the heels of Rosie being kicked out of pram for her beliefs
link?
― still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link
my favourite response is tom d's: playing his gary glitter records EVEN LOUDER
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link
I will too.
The original tweet was reposted by Stereolab fans disappointed and saddened by it, I don't get the impression any of them wanted to form a lynch mob, it was more 'wtf'. Also I thought the Pram singer left, of her own accord, so she could spend more time trolling liberals with her Spiked chums?
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
Cosign all of this. Also, the apology, while good that it clarifies that Laetitia is not now a far-right misogynist, doesn't make me feel much better, because as far as I can tell JP has never ever been a good writer on any subject, so at the very least LS is much more stupid than I had previously believed.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link
but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa
what? pretty sure the 90s was an era of subjecting musicians to all kinds of political litmus tests
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
Now I want to hear this forbidden music of atrocious and disgusting actors that my elders hid from me. Who have I been missing out on apart from Charles Manson?
― Alba, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
i may have been wrong about rosie - thought she was booted out. if she left on her own accord yeah that changes it
― Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
xpost to alba - GG Allin maybe
I never really take much notice of who the artist is on the record, which isn't that great as it means I can never find them
― anvil, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
it seems like the greater overreaction is the handwringing freakoutery about so-far-nonexistent boycotts, but what do I know
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
seriouslyi was disappointed, appreciate the apology, and have no further beef with stereolab or laeticia
i think the freakoutery is possibly just an excuse to use colorful phrases and references to soiling oneself
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
yeah i was never under the impression people would discard their stereolab records..personally i just felt bad laetitia was getting so much shit
lol la lechera xpost
― Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
so at the very least LS is much more stupid than I had previously believed.hence the disappointment
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
la lechera otm
also opportunity for calzino to do his thing
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
it's a tough gig when you don't know what "your thing" is, and you suspect it's not working and not very good, but just feel the need to plough on anyways.
― calzino, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
i feel bad for organizing a coordinated 5 thread attack on all available Stereolab threads so i could clutch my pearls - fascinating choice of metaphor - rather than just saying "i enjoyed some of this person's music, it is mildly disheartening to find out they've express stupid opinions *counter to the spirit of a lot of their own fucking work btw* on the internet
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
"katherine, emil.y, LL otm" wd've been the quicker way of typing that maybe
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
I love doing my thing.
I can see where he is coming from and maybe as someone who comes from latinamerica it’s easier since everyone in here is pretty much working class and nobody has time for tags and political correctedness, which does seem divisive as an outsider. I guess I can’t really know living it from the internet.
Really? This is a curious post.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
I will play a Stereolab record tonight.
NV dont feel bad!
― Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
i was only kidding Ross :)
sometimes multiple threads get revived when a thing happens, yeah it's a bit annoying, it's not really because of political correctness gone mad like Mr Ponzi thinks
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
Paul Ponzi OTM.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
part of the problem is not being able to sort threads by ‘most recently posted to’ when you do a search
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
You can also just scan the New Answers page before posting, to see if a similar thread was recently revived.
― empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
half the people on ILM don't even bother scanning the thread before posting so i don't think that's gonna happen
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
My idiot racist uncle whose views on everything I deplore seems to still have no problem loving Neil Young, Springsteen, and Tom Waits, I guess that's the only admirable thing about him.This is an interesting thing — like Chris Christie being a big Springsteen fan.
― empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
springsteen probably has a better case for being a marxist artist than stereolab
― iatee, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
"I have never, not once, heard Jordan Peterson referenced outside of ILX,"
must be nice!!
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in fairness 99.9% of the world's population has been boycotting Stereolab's music for decades
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
it is! I live in a bubble.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
I mean, ILX is my only "social media" and nothing else I regularly read (WaPo, local news, politico, um comics blogs) has never mentioned this jackass.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
*ever* mentioned
in just the past 24 hours:
https://s22.postimg.cc/4oq3wwosh/image.jpg
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link