The future of Stereolab

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Will nobody think of the music

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Unfortunately we can't all be Turrican ;_;

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

well yeah, there is only a small % of ppl who have a talent for expressing music in the written word, and so thus a dearth of completely riveting flowerings of pure musical discussions!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

i can do it i just choose not to

mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

I was listening to Sky High by Fuxa (one side of a split with Stereolab's 'You Used To Call Me Sadness') yesterday. When life is stressful, which is always, music like that is nothing short of magic, it transports me to this place of tranquility where everything is going to be alright and nobody is being mean or cruel. It was mentioned upthread that the Fuxa guy is a libertarian and this fact will ever so slightly spoil my enjoyment of his music as every time I hear it I will be reminded that its creator believes in the politics of the selfish and infantile. Is that fair? Not at all, no. But it's unavoidable, isn't it?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

no?

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link

I kinda agree with paul here. I think the tearing down of musicians like this also coincides with Americans that are frustrated their country is a mess and just want to drop shit on anyone who threatens their ideological politics. Not saying this is just Americans were upset by this but the middle ground fell out and we all want blood now. Think of the children 👶

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

for fuck's sake

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link

it is a natural, human reaction to be disappointed when someone you're a fan of supports reactionary/misogynist people, particularly if you're part of a group those reactionaries tend to target

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

no?
Might be easy for you to separate art from artist, but it isn't for everyone, this is why I attempted to explain why it affects me. If you have some great insight into how you do that then I dunno maybe share that or just accept that people have different responses to these things rather than accuse people of "pearl clutching"?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

xp to katherine--no argument. It's just the 'wanting blood' part that bothers me. The discovery of this Sadier tweet--from February--required, what, five thread revives? It's important to remember that this compulsory hair trigger call-out stuff is a relatively new phenomenon and a lot of olds like me are going to struggle with it. It was always known that a ton of artists, directors, authors were pricks and did and / or believed strange and even troubling things, but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

lol boycott

mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

Katherine, I also agree with what you said.

This also comes hot off the heels of Rosie being kicked out of pram for her beliefs (which I don’t support of course). But like what a bummer, 10 years later and their singer was axed

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

Funny thing is I don't think anyone on this thread has even said they are throwing out their Stereolab records, but don't let that stop you whining about it anyway xp

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

This also comes hot off the heels of Rosie being kicked out of pram for her beliefs

link?

still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

my favourite response is tom d's: playing his gary glitter records EVEN LOUDER

mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

I will too.

The original tweet was reposted by Stereolab fans disappointed and saddened by it, I don't get the impression any of them wanted to form a lynch mob, it was more 'wtf'. Also I thought the Pram singer left, of her own accord, so she could spend more time trolling liberals with her Spiked chums?

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link

The original tweet was reposted by Stereolab fans disappointed and saddened by it, I don't get the impression any of them wanted to form a lynch mob, it was more 'wtf'. Also I thought the Pram singer left, of her own accord, so she could spend more time trolling liberals with her Spiked chums?

Cosign all of this. Also, the apology, while good that it clarifies that Laetitia is not now a far-right misogynist, doesn't make me feel much better, because as far as I can tell JP has never ever been a good writer on any subject, so at the very least LS is much more stupid than I had previously believed.

emil.y, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa

what? pretty sure the 90s was an era of subjecting musicians to all kinds of political litmus tests

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

Now I want to hear this forbidden music of atrocious and disgusting actors that my elders hid from me. Who have I been missing out on apart from Charles Manson?

Alba, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

i may have been wrong about rosie - thought she was booted out. if she left on her own accord yeah that changes it

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

xpost to alba - GG Allin maybe

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

I never really take much notice of who the artist is on the record, which isn't that great as it means I can never find them

anvil, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

it seems like the greater overreaction is the handwringing freakoutery about so-far-nonexistent boycotts, but what do I know

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

seriously
i was disappointed, appreciate the apology, and have no further beef with stereolab or laeticia

i think the freakoutery is possibly just an excuse to use colorful phrases and references to soiling oneself

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

yeah i was never under the impression people would discard their stereolab records..personally i just felt bad laetitia was getting so much shit

lol la lechera xpost

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

so at the very least LS is much more stupid than I had previously believed.
hence the disappointment

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

la lechera otm

also opportunity for calzino to do his thing

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

it's a tough gig when you don't know what "your thing" is, and you suspect it's not working and not very good, but just feel the need to plough on anyways.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

i feel bad for organizing a coordinated 5 thread attack on all available Stereolab threads so i could clutch my pearls - fascinating choice of metaphor - rather than just saying "i enjoyed some of this person's music, it is mildly disheartening to find out they've express stupid opinions *counter to the spirit of a lot of their own fucking work btw* on the internet

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

"katherine, emil.y, LL otm" wd've been the quicker way of typing that maybe

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

I love doing my thing.

I can see where he is coming from and maybe as someone who comes from latinamerica it’s easier since everyone in here is pretty much working class and nobody has time for tags and political correctedness, which does seem divisive as an outsider. I guess I can’t really know living it from the internet.

Really? This is a curious post.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

I will play a Stereolab record tonight.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

NV dont feel bad!

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

i was only kidding Ross :)

sometimes multiple threads get revived when a thing happens, yeah it's a bit annoying, it's not really because of political correctness gone mad like Mr Ponzi thinks

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

Paul Ponzi OTM.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

part of the problem is not being able to sort threads by ‘most recently posted to’ when you do a search

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

You can also just scan the New Answers page before posting, to see if a similar thread was recently revived.

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

half the people on ILM don't even bother scanning the thread before posting so i don't think that's gonna happen

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

My idiot racist uncle whose views on everything I deplore seems to still have no problem loving Neil Young, Springsteen, and Tom Waits, I guess that's the only admirable thing about him.

This is an interesting thing — like Chris Christie being a big Springsteen fan.

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

springsteen probably has a better case for being a marxist artist than stereolab

iatee, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

"I have never, not once, heard Jordan Peterson referenced outside of ILX,"

must be nice!!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

xp to katherine--no argument. It's just the 'wanting blood' part that bothers me. The discovery of this Sadier tweet--from February--required, what, five thread revives? It's important to remember that this compulsory hair trigger call-out stuff is a relatively new phenomenon and a lot of olds like me are going to struggle with it. It was always known that a ton of artists, directors, authors were pricks and did and / or believed strange and even troubling things, but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in fairness 99.9% of the world's population has been boycotting Stereolab's music for decades

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

must be nice!!

it is! I live in a bubble.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

I mean, ILX is my only "social media" and nothing else I regularly read (WaPo, local news, politico, um comics blogs) has never mentioned this jackass.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

*ever* mentioned

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

in just the past 24 hours:

https://s22.postimg.cc/4oq3wwosh/image.jpg

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link

I dont' believe Rosie was booted out of Pram, I think she quit, the band kind of quit, then they regrouped without her for whatever reason. Maybe that was part of it, maybe it wasn't.

akm, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

Paul Ponzi OTM.

About what exactly?

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

I mean, ILX is my only "social media" and nothing else I regularly read (WaPo, local news, politico, um comics blogs) has never mentioned this jackass.

Umm …

https://www.google.com/search?ei=UtJpW-n4LpC6aZrgsIgJ&q=site%3Awashingtonpost.com+jordan+peterson&oq=site%3Awashingtonpost.com+jordan+peterson

Alba, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link


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