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Its whole kitchen-sink approach to house reminds me heavily of The Avalanches' "Close To You" which is an enormous compliment coming from me. The whole point is that the groove doesn't really change, things just keep getting piled on top way beyond the weight which it is safe for the initial groove to support. It's like a party in an elevator. The best points are the obscured shout-out ("Basement Jaxx new styles..." etc.) followed by the diva's wail, and that weird sampled voice going "Show me you're a man! SHOOOOOWWWW ME YOOOOU'RE A MAN!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

Canny, Tom, but it doesn't make me like it more! Hah. That said I like it enough, it's the most straight-forward house-y track on there and even so it's pushed nearly to the breaking point, isn't it? I let it play most of the time but it's like 9 stars out of ten on an album that's generally about two hundred stars out of ten.

I think the "show me you're a man" bit is the vocalist? Just doing something really wacky with hr voice.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

Er, Tim, I mean. Sorry. I was just talking to a Tom.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still intrigued by the overwhelming love for "Good Luck," which I don't hate or anything but still hasn't made much of an impact beyond me thinking, "Oh, that was nice enough, good start to the album I suppose, no 'Romeo' though." Hm.

One of the nice things about being in London last week -- seeing the huge fuck-off ads for the album everywhere in the Tube.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

The best bit in 'Supersonic' is the "I just wantcha to holler right now!" sample, surely?

Also, Good Luck is way WAY WAY better than Romeo - anyone who thinks otherwise=mentalist.

I'm amazed what a lukewarm reception the album is getting, critically, but yes, every review is saying much the same thing (great 1st half, dodgy 2nd half) but I really don't understand the hate for If I Ever Recover.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:04 (twenty years ago) link

Count me as a dissenting voice then re: 'Good Luck' vs 'Romeo'.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:12 (twenty years ago) link

i'm another one of those romeo mentalists

minna (minna), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link

Let's run off into the promised land of Romeo Mentalists together, minna, and we can be safe from persecution foreva.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:18 (twenty years ago) link

"Romeo" is slightly better, but only because "Romeo" may be their greatest moment ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link

Matt DC must rethink his words.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

Most used Jaxx song in sports highlights: surely "Bingo Bango", especially when used to highlight Brazilian footballers.

Nick H, Monday, 20 October 2003 09:48 (twenty years ago) link

Rendez-Vu > Romeo > Good Luck

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

Set Yo Body Free remains their best track and the blueprint for Kish Kash too. FIGHT OVER THAT MENTALISTS.

I love Romeo, possibly prefer it to Good Luck, but don't make me choose. Good Luck I find is a record really geared towards physical response, I know dancing to Romeo is great but Good Luck seems like some democratisation of drum and bass rhythms which to a dnb illiterate like me is very attractive.

Matt who was hating on If I Ever Recover? As I keep saying I think it is genius.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

Also, am I the only one who thinks the Siouxsie track is fucking mor electroclash toss? I like electroclash but I can think of ten tracks more interesting than that. I don't even listen to it anymore, it's just lame.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

this thread is very long (700th post) - should we start a new one now for people who've, like, bought a copy

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

All U Crazies > Set Yo Body Free

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Romeo" stomps all over "Good Luck" (which is a misleading statement because I really like "Good Luck"). The fairer matchup is between "Romeo" and "Right Here's The Spot".

The "Lucky Star" mentalism still escapes me. It's nice enough but it's rather blatantly the second-worst track on the album (the worst being "Supersonic").

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

Dan you are a mentalist! Lucky Star is great and so is Supersonic! I have only read one review of this album, it was positive. Surprising in the Irish press but then I guess the Jaxx fit into the "we can like this" bracket.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

my review of this album isn't as good as trife and my alternate tracklist up there. but it is almost as jizzy as the first 20 or so posts.

mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

How I would order the tracks from best to worst (excluding interludes, natch):

Right Here's The Spot
Feels Like Home
Plug It In
Cish Cash
If I Ever Recover
Good Luck
Hot N Cold
Living Room
Tonight
Lucky Star
Supersonic

I think the people talking about "Basement Jaxx does the unexpected!" being completely the wrong way of looking at them these days are absolutely correct. The genius of the Jaxx doesn't lie in newness or wackiness as much as it lies in their frightening ability to generate the perfect groove out of anything. (On a complete tangent, I think someone else said this already but "Right Here's The Spot" = "All The Critics Luv U In New York 2003" and is all the better for it.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

I think to say that there isn't a newness and wackiness which is appealing is to like the album in a very different way to myself. I mean I find Lucky Star absolutely manic, and completely wacky, it makes me want to dance because it's just so weird but not just a groove, it's beyond that.

Lucky Star and Jaxx trax at their best don't need to be conventionally banging or loud to make you want to react insanely. I was talking about it on my blog earlier this week, that x factor which makes some tracks feel "harder" or inspires a more over the top physical response. I'm not sure what it is but Lucky Star definitely has it if you ask me.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ha, "Lucky Star" doesn't sound manic at all to me, particularly when compared to "Right Here's The Spot", "Plug It In" and "Cish Cash". (Actually, I think that "Cish Cash" is the epitome of mania for me as far as the album goes.)

Despite the way I ranked the tracks, the true strength of the album lies in the quiet downtempo tracks. "Feels Like Home" is just so effortlessly gorgeous, and "If I Ever Recover" can float through my head all day.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

i think 'Lucky Star' is just as busy, intense and manic as those tracks Dan. it's fantastic and a highlight for me, really glad it's the single. i do love 'Right Here's The Spot' AND 'Supersonic' - the vocal 'mm-hmmm' on that really gets me. 'Plug It In' has grown on me but i'm still hankering for a full length song to come out of 'Cosmolude' - so many great bits on the album - no real weak spot for me - as good as 'Rooty' if not better but i guess 'Remedy' will always be my favourite of the 3 no matter what.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

Stevem is very much reading my mind (the Jaxx song equation upthread).

Ronan's point about dance reactions is pretty otm - I'm the only person I know who could dance to the Cornelius remix of Coldcut for example. Also, I think 'Lucky Star', with its suggestion and tentative embraces of millions of other directions within the song, like the rest of the first half comes off like a series of spasms or some crazy ball of repressed energy that keeps sparking up while someone tries to keep it under control.

Or, uh, that was how I tried to intepret my own thoughts to concur with Ronan's.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

finally got mine. splish splash! but why the big pic of ian brown on the inside sleeve?*

*me being hilarious

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

incidentally, 'Right Here's The Spot' is based on one of the tracks from the Junction EP - 'Get Yo Damn Hands Up' i think

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

"i'm still hankering for a full length song to come out of 'Cosmolude'"

stevem: stop waiting!! buy a robert owens or mr fingers album!

vahid (vahid), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

Basement Jaxx only became 'unexpected' to me once I realised they were way more than the above-average house/dance act I initially perceived them to be (and it's been a few years, I don't trust my initial perceptions like I used to these days). So with Kish Kash, they've defninitely suceeded with defying my expectations and for God's sake journo-types, if you label 'em a dance group, don't blame 'em when they're doing their job. Because they're not only doing their job, they're showing everyone else how it's done at the same time.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

if you label 'em a dance group

Because as we all know they are actually ambient meditative droners.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

Felix Buxton in favourite album being 'Loveless' shockah

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

if you go and reload blissblog, you might be suprised to find that reynolds isn't a million (or even twelve) miles away from miccio on this one. "a bit of a flailing, over-egged pudding", to be precise.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

Oh god. Maybe I was wrong, then (still haven't done that relisten, will around midnight). He totally pulls a Momus on the Outkast album in that post.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

reynolds is wrong wrong wrong

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

So far, Miccio's posts make me want to hear Kish Kash more than less....but then, opinions always give me the buzz to make up me own mind.

Remedy and Rooty made me boogie when I saw them 'played' live, BTW.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

"I think to say that there isn't a newness and wackiness which is appealing is to like the album in a very different way to myself. I mean I find Lucky Star absolutely manic, and completely wacky, it makes me want to dance because it's just so weird but not just a groove, it's beyond that."

Ronan I think that the point is that the songs are manic *and* totally natural sounding grooves. The entire project of the three albums taken in succession is "how far away from a conventional house groove can we push this and still make people dance like it *is* a conventional house groove even though it's not?" I think this is particularly obvious you compare the singles from each album.

If the Jaxx actually went overboard into totally non-groovy wackiness (it could happen, although in fact I'm half expecting their next album to be relatively straightforward for some reason) it would actually be a bit like what Reynolds describes Kish Kash as being.

As is common with really good dance producers, the duo treat their choice of "genre" like a rubberband, stretching it as far as it can go without snapping. You can feel the tension created in the music, and it's that, coupled with the realisation that this rubberband really should have snapped by now, which makes the music so exciting. Obviously once the band does snap though all the tension is lost (presumably see The Love Below here - I've yet to hear it).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

haha Tim always say what I want to say in much more eloquent and inspired ways (damn you Tim!!)

one question i have for those who seem to be setting up an opposition between the wackiness and the groove element -- it seems to me that here the wackiness is an essential constituent of the groove itself; it's stitched right into each song's fabric rather than being stacked on top of it like so many jenga pieces. which is part of the reason why i find this album so enthralling. it's the gift that keeps on giving.

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:21 (twenty years ago) link

that's it exactly, Geeta. it's much more P-Funk than Prince in that way, maximalism as its own reward.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

Hey-hey-HEY! My point was that B-Jaxx still *are* a dance outfit, that that's what they're continuing to be and that's what this album has reconfirmed - that they make people dance. Hence my bafflement at the easy slating of the album for having too many ideas and such, when they're mostly aimed at the single goal of getting butts on the floor (and showing off their new and improved production chops). They've never been as al about the repetitive loops and grooves of their contemporaries but having left that approach long behind, they ain't quite getting the credit from others that I'd give 'em myself. Not that I control or can change people's minds or anythig. Still, comforting that Tim gets it (but you usually do, dude), as does geeta.

Mind you Ned, that was kinda amusing. 'Fells Like Home' as the blueprint for BJ4, haha.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, having gone through the whole thing last night, this is how it's looking for the dancers: 'Plug It In' > 'Lucky Star' > 'Good Luck' > 'Right Here's The Spot' > 'Cish Cash'.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:00 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I was surprised by Simon's review. Perhaps he is just disgusted that Jess and Matos had this album in March 1987.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:44 (twenty years ago) link

as long as people don't read it and go 'oh well that's that sorted then'

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:52 (twenty years ago) link

"Yeah I was surprised by Simon's review. Perhaps he is just disgusted that Jess and Matos had this album in March 1987."

He didn't much like Rooty either, apart from "Get Me Off" and "Where's Your Head At" (ie. the most straightforward grooves on the album). Maybe he just prefers the Jaxx really stripped back.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:58 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think they will Steve, or I doubt it anyway. If mohammed abba was here he would say "it isn't a sermon from the mount people".

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:01 (twenty years ago) link

But steve, this is precisely the sort of thing I've been on about. Clearly, I have got to Breakaway...

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

Simon is hardly saying anything new with the exception of prefering the last third to the rest.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone else feel they've fuX0red up the mastering of this LP? it sounds really muddy on my system at home. I don't remember those mp3s that stevem uploaded being that way. I'll try it on headphones tonight.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

It sounds fairly good on headphones to me. Still, I reckon they should've recorded it in Japan.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

B-Jaxx's pop credentials amongst many other things have always made them 'more' than a 'dance act', which is a further reason fo' my mild ire, lads.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link

Matt DC leads the Jaxx defence charge shockah!http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/8207.html

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think negative comments about an album have bugged me like this for quite some time to be honest. in any case i expect the forthcoming live shows to be phenomenal (but will they be able to lure Dizzee on stage if not Siouxie? it MUST happen) - Barima did you get your ticket yet?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link


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