xpost ok then as far as I can tell you're just wishing a list was more to your personal taste like everyone does but acting it's like some structural or philosophical flaw in how it was constructed
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
During the ratskellar era we need only Rain Dogs and Bone Machine?
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
A lot of those "primitive" rap albums sound a lot better to me now than they did in 2002, or in 1995
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
Also, what do you think are the reasons for the decline in Tom Waits stock? Rain Dogs down to 42, and Swordfishtrombone gone completely.
― triggercut, Monday, September 10, 2018 7:24 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
A different, younger cast of list contributors
― guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
I do wish that there was a bit more honesty in confronting stuff that hasn't aged particularly well
wanna give you a wedgie for this tangent
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
no 90125 or moving pictures no credibility
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
Very good point
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
Quick glance at the top 20, seems to be too much on there (and I presume the top 200 list as a whole) that's there because it's "important" rather than because it's the "best" or even particularly good. That is, in many cases albums much better represented through individual songs and singles lists rather than as albums. I do like seeing Sade up there and even Disintegration, both of which represent a shifting canon, but man, I still don't dig that NWA album (obvious canonical songs aside), and if anything I think its estimation has shifted too much. And sure, Thriller was an epochal event. (It was the first LP I ever bought with my own money, at Sears or Pathmark or something; I want to say it cost $5?). But the idea that it's just one slot below Purple Rain is nuts as anything more than making a weird symbolic point. Both are clearly important albums, but I can't think of the last time I listened to Thriller, let alone all the way through. Probably back when I first bought it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
Also, no 90125 or moving pictures no credibility.
You don't need to listen to Thriller because Thriller is everywhere.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
Sade in the top 10 is definitely my favourite thing about this list.
― pomenitul, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link
Love seeing Tango in the Night
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link
yeah, nearly every song from Thriller still pops up on radio. It doesn't matter when you stopped playing the album.
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
Thriller is not everywhere. The hits from Thriller (some of them) are everywhere, and I don't really want to hear the rest. Or even a couple of the hits either. Really, Michael Jackson is everywhere, more so than Prince, but that does not make Thriller a good album.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
xpost What radio are you listening to? I hear Billie Jean and Wanna Be and Beat It out and about pretty regularly. Title track only around Halloween or children's school performance. PYT rarely. Girl is mine, etc. never. Human Nature not as much as I'd like; I hear the SWV version more. Couple of the other tracks never.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link
you're right. what makes it a good album is the music they chose to put on it.
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link
dude, I heard "Baby Be Mine" on adult R&B yesterday and at least two of the seven singles once a week. It's woven into the culture.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
Piecing together a playlist for this, still a long way to go.
https://open.spotify.com/user/olken2000/playlist/3FT4IqZf9kXh7APS5rCIZr?si=22NvmFrWSbS2wNkOV6i5QA
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
i.e. the hits from Thriller are seven of the nine tracks
By that standard there are other albums that should be way up there. Right?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
It's clearly an important record, I just don't like it that much as a record. But obviously others do!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
It's that high because it placed on just about every submitted list.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
weirdest thing about the list to me is The Sensual World placing but not The Dreaming
― ufo, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
if you’re listening for just the songs from thriller in toto* you’re missing a lot of the reason it’s still regarded so highly. the pyt sample on kanye’s “good life,” etc * lol no pun intended
― maura, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
Wait for it...
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
are there any 9/11 references in this list or no
― marcos, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 10. september 2018 15:27 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes! That's one of my favorite reevaluations.
― ufo, 10. september 2018 15:38 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, this is weird.
― Frederik B, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:38 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, The Dreaming is sort of the Kate fan's Kate record in so many ways
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
fourth'd but also not mad that my favorite kate record made it
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link
I feel like "This Woman's Work" has been having a bit of a moment over the last couple of years
Might be a factor
― Number None, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
do you mean eighteen years?
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
Culturally, like
Obviously it's a masterpiece
― Number None, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
I listened to Minor Threat this weekend. No idea why anyone thinks it should be that high.
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I'd say that's another good case of "important" vs. good.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
There should just be a list of "angriest albums of the '80s."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
"this woman's work" is always having a moment
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
Can’t load this thread to see if anyone’s said this already but they did this one already in 2002. The list is still up.
― piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
i think a lot of that is prob due to the aftershock of the maxwell cover which also still seems to be relevant and beloved xp
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
You underestimate ILM.
xp
― pomenitul, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSdHgq3oBD8
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 9:38 AM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is partially my fault
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link
― triggercut, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:24 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is also partially my fault
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
lol just saw the bottom of the list described as "a bunch of dance and dance-adjacent acts that they let brad nelson write about"
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
(I failed to vote for a lot of things I would have voted for)
― lowercase (eric), Monday, September 10, 2018 7:23 AM (fifty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what's upppp
wish i had gotten the virgo blurb tbh
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
Also, what do you think are the reasons for the decline in Tom Waits stock?
The Best Show, maybe?
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
i've notice a pretty big tom waits backlash in the last couple years
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
Yeah Tom Waits coolness stock is way down right now as far as I can see
― Evan, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
Nice to see Music For The Masses sneak in a list for once.
Hounds Of Love was 92 lol in the previous 80s list.
― piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.
― jmm, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link