should i give the grateful dead a chance?

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So I stumble upon this Deadcast on iTunes, and I've never owned anything by this band and never listened to any of my friends' tapes, and, yes, this is boring compared to something like the Allman Brothers, but it's pretty good late-night wallpaper when I don't want to really listen to something but I don't want to be in a dead-silent room either. This is really high-end wallpaper, for free.

Eazy, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

How had I always skipped over "Fire in the City" before with hardly a second glance??? The song is fierce. I would have loved a full album collaboration between primal Dead and Jon Hendricks.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.pnla.org/jobs/j76.htm

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 8 November 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

That has to be somebody's dream job.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 8 November 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://pitchfork.com/news/42256-the-national-plan-grateful-dead-tribute-comp/

It looks like the National was talking about putting out a tribute comp, but then their label backpedalled on that statement? I would anticipate this, if it were to come to fruition.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The start of this thread was pretty funny. I wonder if Kate ever ended up actually listening to any Dead because she clearly hadn't 8 years ago.

wk, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

cia never wore tie-dyes. Hanes black Ts you tard.

I want to come out and just apologize for using the word "tard" two years ago. I don't do this now and think it was horrible of me to do so. Sorry.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol at my "garcia" truncation.

cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

he did wear tie dyes, I distincly remember him in the gatefold of Europe '72 or something like that in tie die. Plus he tie died ties.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I could have sworn I've seen pics of him wearing tie dyed shirts too, but now I can't find one online to back up my claims. I found pics of him wearing paisley, lots of flannel, and even a t-shirt with dolphins, but no tie dye.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

He wore a hockey jersey every now and again.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

guys i found a photo of jerry wearing tie-dye
http://www.bayareaonthecheap.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Jerry_Garcia_Dead-300x230.gif

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

no, no! It was clarified upthread that he did wear tie-dies for some period in the 70s? I was just apologizing for using bigotted language.

cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Weir hates tie-dye fyi

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the garcia in my mind isn't tie-die though. that guy is black as death.

cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Jerry

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

two posts after apologizing for using bigoted language!!!!

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

that's not even funny as far as willful misinterpretation goes.

cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

He wasnt black, I( think he was of Spanish descent.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

woah, settle down, just a bit of fun.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

he was talking to me TM; I'm sorry

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Peter

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I clicked on this just to read Kate's post at the top again. Still OTM

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

It's possibly one of the worsts posts ive seen on ILM.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, pretty bad. i like this one though
A: "Hey, what are you listening to?"
B: "Oh, it's, uh, Kremlin Tiger Flower, uh, 2506. Have you heard them before?"
A: "Hmmm, it sounds familiar."
B: "They're a Japanese noise band from the '70s. Original LPs are like $500 on Ebay, but, uh, this label out of Amsterdam just reissued their album and I got it from Forced Exposure."
A: "Oh, yeah, I've heard of that...wow, this is awesome. It sounds like Sonic Youth or the Dead C or something."
B: "Yeah, I can hear that, I guess."
A: (listens) "Totally. Sonic Youth is totally ripping these guys off."
(pause)
B: "Actually, I'm just fucking with you. It's a Dead bootleg, they're doing 'Feedback'."
A: "It's a Dead C bootleg? Wow, this is, like, the best stuff I've ever heard from them. How'd you get -- "
B: "No, no, it's the Grateful Dead."
A: (runs screaming from the room, snarky hipster credibility permanently ruined)

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

^I remember that! That was great!

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Bertha (Skull and Roses)
He's Gone (EUROPE '72)
Jack Straw (EUROPE '72)
Brown-Eyed Women (EUROPE '72)

Wharf Rat (Skull and Roses)
Ramble On Rose (EUROPE '72)
Tennessee Jed (EUROPE '72)

i listen to this playlist and pretend it's the greatest dead studio album

mizzell, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^

So what? SY and the Dead C are nearly as bad as the Dead (not as interminable tho') -You'd never mistake the Dead for someone, you know, good. Like when they try to play 'Jazz' or R n'B or Country, it never sounds like anything halfway acceptable in those fields: it just sounds like the Dead: out of tune, out of time, terrible singing and it goes on, and on,and on......

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

might just have to agree to disagree? (about the dead and the dead c)

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

(& sonic youth)

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

That is a good playlist, Mizzell.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit someone on a message board doesn't like the Grateful Dead, this is ~important~ & will ~make a difference~

Euler, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Dude, no, you have to hear this most ultimate jam session that they did on this super-rare collectible live bootleg out-take from 1973...

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm gonna let you guys in on a big secret: the Dead were just a bunch of dirty hippies

YES, I SAID IT

Euler, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Mods plz change thread title to: Dr. Suggestban, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Dead

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"Without wishing to sound too alt snooty, Ghost and esp. Acid Mothers Temple do the whole folk-psych rock jam thing w/ so much more passion, imagination and freaky fun."

I like Ghost but still, lol

Euler, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"You'd never mistake the Dead for someone, you know, good."-I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:25 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You'd never mistake your opinion for anything other than, you know, shitty.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead fans, eh, don't like it up 'em.....

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

one man gathers what another man spills

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol otm!

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I clicked on this just to read Kate's post at the top again. Still OTM

If you claim to like garage rock, and you think that the first Dead album consists of uninspired hippie stoner jams, then I call bullshit on you ever having listened to it.

wk, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

B: "Oh, it's, uh, Kremlin Tiger Flower, uh, 2506. Have you heard them before?"

Haha, probably works the other way around too. "Hey have you heard this Dead bootleg?" "Ugh, this sucks, I hate the Grateful Dead. This is so boring." "jk, this is that rare japanese psych reissue you were raving about last week"

wk, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

most dead haters in my experience are kinda like yr dad saying how bad vegetarian food tastes i.e. they haven't really got much of an idea about what they're talking about but they like the pose they strike when they say it

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not big on the dead but i think jerry is such a great singer, his voice always sounds sad and tired and wise and lonely to me

tbh, the episode where lindsay weir listens to american beauty on freaks and geeks really made me want to become a deadhead

the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

!

I am pretty sure I have never, in God knows how many years of talking about music w/ppl, run across "I don't dig the dead but I like the way Jerry Garcia sings" - this is a really novel take for real!!

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

my friend said to me, "man you love the Band, check out Europe 72" & that's what it took for me. I can see that if you're really hot on what's ~Outttt There~ in the 21st century that the Dead are gonna seem kinda stodgy---I get that pose, is what I'm saying (even if it means great things are closed off to you on account of that pose)

Euler, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

american beauty sort of is the best album of all time though, in the right mood.

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm rocking disc 2 of Harpur College 5/2/70 & the back door's open 'cause it's warm out & the neighbors got the bbq goin and life is fucking awesome

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't know anything about the Dead except for what I had heard from ex-Bill Graham staffers about how annoying the fans and hangers on and everything that *goes* with the Dead was, so I had this image that I would hate their godawful hippie stylings.

But after I sought out Workingman's Dead and American Beauty a couple of years ago, I was glad I'd taken the time to prove myself wrong. Really, really, truly love the studio albums.

have a few Deadhead friends who insist "live bootlegs are where it's at" but I think I need recommendations from non-Deadheads or, I dunno, non-koolaid drinkers to send me down that path...because it seems like that way leads to madness, and there's SO many!!

I mean it's saying something that I'm a PJ fan and I'm mortified by the amount of Dead bootlegs and live shit around :D

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

also as a footnote to that, I learned that the BGP staffers I knew all actually did *like* Dead music, and could sing along to just about anything you threw at them with a faint smile on their face...but it was all the Deadhead baggage that had screwed them up

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link


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