― fandango (fandango), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Blur being called a boyband was as laughably unfair as Oasis being called Beatles heirs.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link
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― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Blur were closer to the Beatles stylistically than Oasis, bt no one ever says that. Parklife is very similar to, say Sgt Peppers than Definitely Maybe.
Coincidentally, I dislike the Beatles and don't care about Oasis (love the big coke-album single that starts off with helicopters), but I hate Blur with a surprising passion. Except for "Song 2" which is still kind of fun.
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
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Song 2 is one of their worst songs, although I too have a guilty liking for D'ja Know What I Mean (one of the few Oasis songs I can listen to through).
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― danzig (danzig), Friday, 11 August 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 11 August 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Dom said 2002; I'd also add 2003. Also: let's not forget the golden year of 1984.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually its Funkadelic's 'No Compute'.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
I think I am less smart for reading that.
― Sean Braud1s (Sean Braudis), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
them beatles woz shit cos they wusnt CREEM or LED ZEP and they are bestbandzeva they ROXXXXOOOORRRRSS
― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes, yes, but are the Beatles crunky?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
who said we never talk about what music actually sounds like ???
― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
For those who don't know, you can't bring liquids on planes now.
― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― js (honestengine), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
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― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
New Pop was hated by most critics.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I understand that they were *objectively* one of the best rock bands of the 20th century. I know they had the *best* songs recorded by the *best* producer with the *best* recording technology of the 20th century. I will not argue that they were a great band.
I had an arguement about whether or not you could dislike the Beatles without being willfully contrarian(sp?) just for the sake of it. The best analogy I can make is that the Beatles are like a soup that you just don't like. I know the soup is kick ass, I understand and respect other people liking the soup because the ingredients are fantastic. I just don't like the soups ingredients and I have no desire to eat that soup.
There is nothing about the people in the Beatles that interests me. I would have no desire to know those people if they were just random people off the street. The only thing that interests me is their marketing, I could take or leave anything else about them.
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Public Radio (public_radio), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
That's not his point at all and furthermore he's quite OTM in some ways (although obviously naive in others).
I personally can't stand the self-important "deep" lyrics that the Beatles brought to later pop music.
― xave (xave), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrapped up like a DOUche in the middle of the NUT (donut), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― xave (xave), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrapped up like a DOUche in the middle of the NUT (donut), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― unnamedroffler (xave), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― xavier (xave), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link
He labours the point a bit but I do find myself in agreement with quite a lot of it in theory (don't own a Beatles record except for a crap tape copy of Red + Blue I never listen to, and I heard Revolver once a long time ago). I think it's a consistent enough argument to be considered at least a little bit seriously.
I think what he fails to grapple with enough is the inevitability of (some) avant movements reaching the mainstream eventually, especially at a time of great(er?) flux like the 60's, and he also skips over the question WHY is white pop music automatically bad? It would seem that way at times through that article. Because it doesn't work for THE STRUGGLE (politically neutral or commercially compromised) and advance the cause of SERIOUS rock music? Okay it's rockism/popism all over again MAYBE. But still, a lot of Beatles tracks (but not all) DO have rather an empty, hollow feel to me and I wonder if he's not OTM at least once somewhere in that piece.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link
You're thinking of The Beach Boys circa 1968
I understand that they were *objectively* one of the best rock bands of the 20th century. I know they had the *best* songs recorded by the *best* producer with the *best* recording technology of the 20th century.
The Drifters were recording on better recording equipment in 1959. Tom Dowd, Atlantic Records' producer who institutionalized the 8track recorder (yeah yeah, Les Paul invented it), was shocked to learn that EMI/Abbey Road was only using 3tracks during The Beatles time.
Uh, John made a career out of both making up non-sense lyrics for the fun of it, and making lyrics that mock his fans that take his lyrics too seriously. I do realize that followers read too much into it and it spawned crap, but The Beatles themselves aimed to prevent that before it got started.
― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link