sublime. the worst? i mean THE WORST???

You know, I really try not to be an elitist about music, but if you heard a Sublime song and thought it was Bob Marley, you are a bad fucking person.

Also, why couldn't those gents keep their damn shirts on? Bloated, sunburned beer bellies aren't eye-candy for anyone.

*runs

I can't speak to Sublime being the absolute worst band ever, but they do suck mightily, IMHO. Anyway, you've more or less nailed the popularity of a number of groups with the above question. For example, Rage Against the Machine. Regardless of the talent of the various band members, their fan base was all about the aimless whiteboy "revolution" thing -- which is more or less bullshit, since those kids all a bunch of apathetic losers when it comes down to it. The closest thing they'll ever see to a riot is a mosh pit that's not being monitored by venue security.

Please tell me that was intentional.

Rather difficult to escape the Sublime cult in SoCal, but to be fair if someone's going to blare music out of their jacked-up truck or apartment party there are much worse things imaginable.

this was a cover, certainly, yes?

http://www.barks.jp/image/photo/artist/1021062/IMAGE_FILE_URL.jpg

The Phunk Junkeez. ewww.

OTM completely.

but yeah man, 311 was far worse.

Thinking about all these terrible late 90's band, though, reminded me of something I haven't thought about in ages, a band that I hated so much when they were briefly popular. Truly, Crazy Town is the worst band ever.

wait actually he might have said the "talent's talent" line about jojo.

The only thing that would make Matchbox Twenty tolerable would be an unforunate contraction of incurable deafness.

Sublime was never really great, but I think they kind of did their own thing somewhat and actually had a couple of decent songs. They sampled The Minutemen, so they can't be all bad. Either way, the main guy from Sublime blew it and that was that. I think it is all kind of sad.

I remember a couple of decent songs off the Long Beach Dub All-Stars album, where they relied on guests (Barrington Levy, HR, etc.) for vocals.

Both bands play watered down versions of music that I don't like much in full-strength form. So yeah, they might not be the worst bands ever to exist... But they might be to me.

No.

I think the wrath one might feel for Sublime or 311 as opposed to Nickelback or Matchbox 20 is that even when you get around to dismissing them, you continue to listen to the records that might have inspired them. While they're far from being good, they probably didn't have too terrible taste in music themselves.

It's also easy to hate the watered-down stuff you listened to in High School before you were hip enough for the hard stuff. It takes everyone a few steps walk away from the popular crowd. Fifteen year olds aren't designed to listen to the Fall and vica versa.

Out.

I listen to the bands that influenced Nickelback and Matchbox 20 too. I mean, as bland as those two are, I'll bet that the group's members had a few Cheap Trick, Kiss and maybe even REM records between them.

While they're far from being good, they probably didn't have too terrible taste in music themselves.

A guy can give a million dollars to charity, he can hoard it and live off the interest, he can use it to pay for the extinction of cute puppies and kittens. Money isn't immoral or moral even, it's just there. What we do with it is what makes it moral or immoral. Music's the same way. Only different.

It's also easy to hate the watered-down stuff you listened to in High School before you were hip enough for the hard stuff. It takes everyone a few steps walk away from the popular crowd. Fifteen year olds aren't designed to listen to the Fall and vica versa.

I don't know... I was 15 in 1984 and I don't think I was particularly "smart" then. Sure I listened to Rush, Van Halen (kind enough to name their album after the year), ZZ Top and Maiden/Priest, but I also managed to find out about Metallica and Minor Threat around then. Oh, and the Bad Brains who probably unwittingly influenced both Sublime and 311.

If some teenager wants to use Sublime and 311 as a gateway drug to better prototypical bands (like I later used the guitar-oriented industrial stuff like Ministry and KMFDM to go back and get into Chrome and Neubauten), okay, then I guess they served a purpose. Doesn't mean I can't curse them for the millions who remain convinced that that those bands are thee shit.

But seriously, even if you don't like them, how could Sublime be the worst band of all time? 311 isn't great, but they have a few real good songs.

You guys suck.

just glad it came to england eventually! you're having your turn