Kanye West

i like the bottle costumes, but that song is complete garbage and I'm shocked that any of this shit is getting airtime.

my feelings exactly ^

the life of pablo was a fun, compelling mess. everything since has been embarrassing. five years after Yeezus and he's here. Sucks

ghost town is an amazing track

there were moments on ye and the other few albums he produced recently have been good too. i don't think his output has been embarrassing.

re. the trump stuff: it doesn't seem like he understands what he is talking about. he uses his trump support to signal that he's not "controlled" by the pop culture consensus that surrounds him. he doesn't say that he wants to stop immigration or anything like that. not that what he is doing is harmless, just that i have no idea how to interpret it.

i will say that he doesn't seem very happy and his kind of frantic grasping at platitudes -- "choose love," "escape the sunken place" -- are kind of heartbreaking. i doubt many people have embraced trump bc of kanye.

If anything it just enforces the idea that people supporting Trump are morons.

just that i have no idea how to interpret it.

it doesn't really require much interpretation, you can take him at his word

his words are all over the place

sometimes he hits on conservative talking points, but then he goes to generalities about how needs to choose love and escape monolithic thought, and then he talks about the sunken place

he's at the very least an idiosyncratic conservative

stop

Let's leave the um-ing and er-ing to the click baiters. Digesting the twaddle he's offered since 2010 isn't worth separating from the grotesque political statements, i.e. there is no formalist divide between the fascist apologizer and the third-rate producer.

It’s been said a million times, but I don’t think dissecting guy’s behavior will lead to anything worthwhile. Seems apparent at this point that he’s dealing with some sort of mental illness.

if you follow the gleam to the bottom of the sunken place you just find a red hat

i feel bad for him. he made music that was meaningful to me when i was young. he is clearly struggling with something and he never struck me as a bad person but then again i don't know him so who knows.

he just said he wants to abolish the 13th amendment.

idek what to make of the fact that that song is probably going to be his biggest hit in the greater part of the past decade (not counting the weird rihanna/paul mccartney collab). like, it's sticking. i would say there's something ~interesting~ going on with the adele givens clip and how she is presented in its video + i guess the performance but otherwise the song is ass from top to bottom.

i like the video

with the 13th amendment i think he clarified and said it was the exclusion clause he wanted to get rid of. he doesn't think prisoners should be used as forced labor.

noted constitutional expert Kanye West

You and he should realize that when Scalia, Bork, Alito, and the rest of the Roberts Five and their fellow travelers espouse "original intent" they mean "a Constitution without the Reconstruction amendments." Take this bit of advice to Facebook and wherever our gargoyle relatives chew on their spite: when they say "states rights" respond, "The Fourteenth Amendment and the Civil War made states right the cry of separatists and traitors."

every SCOTUS since Hughes has incorporated the Bill of Rights through the Due Process Clause. Conservatives want to return us to the Taney era.

i'm obviously no friend to constitutional originalism

i was just saying that kanye wasn't advocating we bring slavery back

yet when he endorses Trump that's what he's doing

fair enough

with the 13th amendment i think he clarified and said it was the exclusion clause he wanted to get rid of. he doesn't think prisoners should be used as forced labor.

Did he say more (in addition to the original comment where he explicitly called for the abolition of the amendment) than this?:

the 13th Amendment is slavery in disguise meaning it never ended We are the solution that heals

not abolish but. let’s amend the 13th amendment We apply everyone’s opinions to our platform

i felt like it was implied in the first tweet when he said "We will provide jobs for all who are free from prisons as we abolish the 13th amendment. Message sent with love.” He unites the idea of abolishing the 13th amendment with something to do with freeing prisoners and giving them jobs. and then said that the way the 13th amendment is, it is "slavery in disguise," which made me think that he was talking about how the 13th amendment currently doesn't cover prisoners, who are often made to work for way under minimum wage.

admittedly, i'm filling in some gaps here, but i think that's what he was saying.

that is what he's saying, but he's also taken by a grifter who flatters his own grandiose sensibilities and makes time for him in a way that obama did not.

oh for sure

i mean it's a dumb comparison but if u remember the movie hook, kanye is peter's son, obama is peter pan, and hook is trump.

like fuck you dad, evil man believes in my baseball dreams and all you wanna do is work/not let me in your cool magic group.

he was incredible during the yeezus tour. didn't stop for over two hours.

pfft, stevie wonder plays three hours straight and he's in his 60s.

yeah but kanye kept jumping up and down on this mountain. and then he stopped for a half hour and lectured us about how he designed the mountain. "this shit is, like, well thought out."

Yeah, two hours? Um. Macca does 3, and he's 100.

yeah but kanye kept jumping up and down on this mountain. and then he stopped for a half hour and lectured us about how he designed the mountain. "this shit is, like, well thought out."

― Trϵϵship, Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:04 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so kanye does really disorganized ted talks

i don't think you realize how much he was running and jumping around and there wasn't anyone on the stage with him.

sign me the fuck up

also, yeah, kanye wants to be a thought leader but he is too scattered to do a real ted talk. however, he's a champion so he turns tragedy to triumph, makes music that's fire, spits his soul through the wire.

this isn't even making fun of him. i connected with the college dropout when i was in high school and got C's in math and spanish. being a nuanced thinker was never really the point with him, i'm sure he'd be the first to tell you.

i wish his life went a different way. the braggadocio at first seemed like kind of a heroic response to deep insecurity and i loved how, compared to other rappers, he never really attacked other people to build himself up. at a certain point, though, believing in yourself isn't enough... this is in the music too, i feel, but there does seem to be a lot of magical thinking in his public statements. like, all compromise is weakness; the MAGA hat can just mean what he wants it to mean.

there is definitely something there in the music that people respond to that goes beyond just his skill as a producer. doesn't excuse his support of trump. the whole thing is just a bummer.

there is an explanation: he doesn't read/watch the news and is totally isolated surrounded by sycophants identifying with Trump, another raging delusional narcissist that ascended to power in spite/because of it. it was linked in the other thread, but one of the people that worked with him recently said he didn't know about ICE or anything that was happening at the border. I know what you mean Treeship, it is a bummer.

He’s a producer first and a rapper second. Most of his lyrics are ghostwritten.

This is to say, I wish he was trying to be more disruptive and out-there with his productions instead of trying to do it with his words. He’s bad at the latter and he could be brilliant at the former.

At least get one of his ghostwriters to help him writing those insane speeches. I’m sure a good writer could’ve organized and phrased the whole ”slavery was a choice” fuck-up into something perhaps meaningful and interesting. Something something about how when your mind is free your body can never truly be enslaved or some other fighting words mumbo jumbo that could sound inspiring instead of troublesome.

Mad genius Kanye isolated from the world at his studio in one of his mansions or on a ranch in the middle of nowhere with a laptop creating albums that alienate his fanbase is a better look than Crazy Kanye isolated from the world wants to express his take of what the country should because he half-read a conservative thinkpiece while getting high in one of his mansions, and procedes to make uninformed statements on twitter that alienates his fanbase.

Ironically this is the year he has released the most music but most of it feels half-cooked ideas. He’s not into doing the thing he’s actually good at and seems to prefer the attention from making tunnelvision comments. By the current standards he’d make a good president.

At any rate what a waste.

https://pitchfork.com/news/lana-del-ray-confronts-kanye-over-trump-support/

then he stopped for a half hour and lectured us about how he designed the mountain. "this shit is, like, well thought out."

why is that good?

Had a laugh at local anchor Rhonda Walker following a report his name change this morning with "maybe we should start calling him Perri-ye"

The Kanye album finally dropped! I guess he changed the title and cover at the last minute pic.twitter.com/To7WQih11V

— pixelated (something halloween-related) (@pixelatedboat) September 30, 2018