The 'Shit Trend' in pop music right now

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The “Shit Threads” in ILM forum right now

dude the original post was hardly your finest hour

at least it drew my attention to that vine of the guy doing the indie girl voice and now I can't stop saying 'We have bananies and avocadies' to myself

I enjoyed this in-depth linguistic analysis of "indie girl voice"

https://www.acelinguist.com/2018/10/dialect-dissection-indie-girl-voice.html

No mention of Karen Dalton is odd

I had been genuinely confused by that diphthong in "Good for You".

Sometimes I use the phrase "american idol voice" when discussing what I don't like

Surely Britney is the ground zero for this phenomenon, oh baybay baybay?

This vocal trends makes me “??” as well (if we’re talking about the same thing), but I’m hesitant to come down too hard on it for obvious reasons. Maybe if it were an “indie dude voice”...

Yeah, idk what this has to do with 'indie', really. The linguist actually has a separate article about "babay" vowels!

Here; haven't finished it yet: https://www.acelinguist.com/2017/05/oh-babih-babay-how-one-vowel-one.html

I think it's pronounced 'inday'.

Think the vine was originally posted on this thread in connection to the "passenger voice" which I consider to be a different, much worse thing.

Aka"Ellie Goulding ballad voice"

Ooh ooh can we do the Sting / Elvis Costello swallowed-voice?

Parts of Iggy's 'Passenger' fall under the "Joy Division voice" which I generally dislike (Iggy is okay I guess). I never knew an indie band called Passenger

that's a hilarious article

Is there a term for the Rag'n'Bone Man objectively the second worst noise in the world voice?

The multi-voice 'oh-oh-OHH-oh oh-oh-OHH-oh's or variations of it filling in the gaps between the lyrics in choruses. Imagine Dragons, Arcade Fire, all that shit. It will not go away.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre)

This is something I had mentioned to my millennial sister when I brought up that a lot of music sounds the same. When she recalled that conversation, last November, I took a different stance by admitting that there are some cases of less than modern songs with 'oh-oh-ohs' that I enjoy. I regret admitting that because it diminishes the fact that 'ohs' are an ever prevalent, annoying trend.

Anyways, I watched this video today and the narrator mentions a variation dubbed the Millennial Whoop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII

Overall this video presents a pretty accurate explanation on why popular modern music is awful. For someone presenting a negative opinion (although presented as fact) it is surprising that this video has a 93% like ratio on a site used largely by younger people. He also seems to believe there is tons of musical brainwashing due to the mere-exposure effect - although he doesn't say how much.

What led me here was googling "why do I dislike modern music"; maybe you would too if you couln't name a single new artist that you like from the past decade. Anyhow, many responses were "people grew up on and formed their musical opinions based on something different" (this answer is actually pretty interesting when you get into details about why certain music styles, content, and feelings embodied certain eras) and also "you are closed-minded" or "you haven't heard any good non-mainstream stuff". When I check out some of the recommended underground or indie music it's always sounds bad or mehhhh. Maybe if I keep trying I'll eventually find something I like -- or maybe I am closed-minded 🤔. I suppose that is possible but I feel like that I can point out several good reasons why each song I try is boring or bad. I guess I won't know until I write those reasons down and analyze them while trying time and time again to like something new from the past decade.

you couln't name a single new artist that you like from the past decade

What led me here was googling "why do I dislike modern music"

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though I would like to see the reasons why Kendrick Lamar songs are bad or boring written down and analyzed

you're gonna get primaried with that attitude

we already have a flappy bird this just seems excessive

xpost lol I mean he either dislikes Kendrick or has never heard him, which would mean he's not trying all that hard

Rather than getting analytical about why what you don't like sucks, why not analyze why what you *do* like is awesome, and use that as a guide to finding new stuff?

and he said oooh eeee oohhh ahh ahh
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walla walla bing bang

xpppppp to Arms Length,
Actually now that I think about it I did really like the songs 'Genesis' by Grimes in 2012, 'Play' by iamamiwhoami in 2012, and 'Helena Beat' by Foster the People in 2011 - but all their other songs that I've heard are mostly variations of meh and in some cases bad imo. Likewise, there might be a couple other "new" artists that I'm forgetting about who had just 1 song I really liked.

I thought about starting a thread where try to rationally explain why I don't like stuff people recommend to me; but even if its for shits and giggles I'm pretty sure some ILXors rather I keep opinions to myself.

xp to zchrys,
I do try to use rym and other people's playlists to better guide me to new music but at this point all my good discoveries are dated

I thought about starting a thread where try to rationally explain why I don't like stuff people recommend to me

would not read

anti-shits and giggles r u?

oh, you use rym! great! ok, you are allowed to think modern music sucks but first you have to listen to every record on this list and agree that it is bad

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/rushomancy/pathological-listening/

note that you are allowed to like the archival releases on the bottom of page 4 and the top of page 5.

That video is garbage btw.

That video has over 7 million views and 93% like ratio.

Rushomancy, if you start a thread for me and recommend some songs I'll give you some cliff note opinions

Keep in mind he only discusses mainstream music

^ video guy. not rushomancy as far as I know

That video has over 7 million views and 93% like ratio.

And your point is?

that was my point

nearly every youtube video that hasn't been like hate-brigaded has that sort of like ratio lol

skimming the video this is just rockist nonsense intended to reinforce the prejudices of people who already don't like modern pop with claims like "the vast majority of pop music today is built using the exact same combination of keyboard, drum machine, sampler and computer software. this sucks the creativity and originality out of music."

let's not lose the main point though...most music does suck

I dunno, ask ufo and Tom D. is modern mainstream pop music sucks

I saw a 13 minute video on youtube yesterday where some teenagers walked around with canes, pretended to be blind, fell in the street and wailed in terrible Adam Sandler voices and it had a 98% like ratio

ask Neanderthal too

It probably does but not as much as that shitty video.

deflection?

That vid is about as good as the one by the guy who claims Katy Perry is really adult Jon-Benet Ramsey

It's a bad presentation of data with awkward metaphors, cherry picking, strawman arguments & other cliche rockist sentiments.

Doesn't mean you can't have your opinion of mainstream music. Bad video though.

that "millennial whoop" thing was not coined by the video, in its (incredibly slight) defense; that said the thinkpiece it came from is equally bad

https://thepatterning.com/2016/08/20/the-millennial-whoop-a-glorious-obsession-with-the-melodic-alternation-between-the-fifth-and-the-third/

(xp) Yes, I am a long way from being a fan of mainstream pop music fwiw!

I really don't care about this video.

What do you all thinks makes modern mainstream pop music different from before?

I'm older.