Having another listen to Hello, I Must Be Going and thinking there's so much good stuff on this: 'I Don't Care Anymore', 'I Cannot Believe It's True', 'Like China', 'It Don't Matter To Me', 'Thru These Walls', 'The West Side' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
Been browsing his stuff on streaming services. The new covers for the remasters are really creepy somehow. Also wtf
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
Yeah, the No Jacket Required one particularly!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
Agreed, it turns me off to the whole album
― calstars, Friday, 19 October 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link
As he wrote in his book, he moved to Switzerland because his wife at the time, who he may have subsequently remarried, was Swiss, and they wanted to live near her parents.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 October 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link
What a happy coincidence.
Shortly before the 2005 election (when Collins was living in Switzerland), Labour supporter Noel Gallagher was quoted: "Vote Labour. If you don't and the Tories get in, Phil Collins is threatening to come back and live here. And let's face it, none of us want that."
Noel OTM?
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 October 2018 07:20 (five years ago) link
As he wrote in his book, he moved to Switzerland because his wife at the time, who he may have subsequently remarried, was Swiss, and they wanted to live near her parents.― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:31 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:31 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup - and if his wikipedia article is to be believed, then he continued to keep homes in the US and the UK, not to mention he's no longer living in Switzerland but Miami, and has done so since 2015.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 20 October 2018 08:37 (five years ago) link
Rich expats with houses lying empty for most of the years while people are sleeping on the streets, better hope Corbz doesn't win the next election.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link
heard "something happened on the way to heaven" in the food court the over day and it brightened my day― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:33 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:33 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, it's a great one, that... the chorus is up there with his catchiest, I think. ...But Seriously may have been better regarded by fans of his first three albums if it had been about 15-20 minutes shorter.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 20 October 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
And if it had been called ...Butt Seriously
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
I don't think you want to see his new version of that cover...
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
BS might be better regarded if (a) the song about homelessness wasn't the massive (b) David Crosby didn't sing on it (c) he'd included more drum machine twaddle
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
The segue on 'Three Sides Live' from Behind The Lines into Duchess with Phil jamming live with the faders on the CR 78 is so fucking great.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 21 October 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link
I'm listening to Wind & Wuthering again, which I suppose is considered to be the last of Genesis' true symphonic prog works, and y'know, by that stage in their career I guess they'd earned the right to do whatever the hell they felt like, individually and collectively. That both Genesis and Phil Collins ended up super-huge is just the icing on the cake, really.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 21 October 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
the title of this thread always makes me think of 'move heaven and earth to defend the life of chairman gonzalo' - now that the Tory allegation has been debunked, ilx should start a new rumour that Phil is a maoist
― soref, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
I always thought the cheesy percussive synth break down in the long Tonight Tonight Tonight was Tony, cycling through presets. But the live at Wembley video shows it's Phil hitting pads. He can do better!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
Air Drums.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
I've always felt that if that Phil "I'm a Tory" interview existed you'd be able to find it on the internet.
I wish it lasted forever.
― canary christ (stevie), Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
I just saw that yeah, he's sitting down a lot on this tour. I mean, this is just sad looking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhgCYbIOxms
And also no Chester on drums! (Phil's got his son playing instead.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link
a disgusting display of nepotism imo
― i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
nice to see gandalf on bass tho
― i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
This is something of a theme. Jax Nielsen plays drums in Cheap Trick, Jason Bonham (obv) in Zeppelin, Max Weinberg (now in Slipknot!) sometimes played with Bruce, Jeff Tweedy's son played drums in Tweedy ... There are probably more.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
Hard to top Denardo Coleman
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ac/6f/ca/ac6fcaaec6b081e08090b4f0c4bd9ca0.jpg
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
Hooky's son is playing bass in his NO review
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link
Wolfgang Van Halen
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
Gandalf is Leland Sklar, just googled him HO LEE SHIT look at this guy's credits, talk about a pro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Sklar
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
Yeah, he's a session monster. For a while Phil used Nathan East, who is even crazier busy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
yow, that's a helluva resumé alright
― i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
I quite like this home movie camcorder footage of Genesis making their self-titled album, shot by Phil...
https://youtu.be/iMm-08uZXfo
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
Leland Sklar is a GOD
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
Isn't Leland Sklar's nephew or something a long-term old school ILM poster?
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
just think how good Collins the drummer was that he played with Nathan East.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
All anyone needs to do to hear what Collins brought to Genesis as a drummer is listen to Trespass and Nursery Cryme back to back. Or a version of 'The Knife' with Collins drumming. Collins' drumming swings and grooves more, and although his drumming is quite busy on the earlier stuff, his fills complement the material, rather than some of the lumpen, misplaced fills his predecessor does on Trespass.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link
When PC joined Led Zeppelin at Live Aid he has spoken about how Page tried to gaslight him before the performance.
Page asked him if he knew his cues and Collins said yeah and sang the bit prior to the guitar solo as an example and Page came back with 'No!....No!' which confused PC and put him massively on the back foot when he came to play, so he sits out that section and lets Tony Thompson completely fuck it up and then took most of the flak for the terrible performance.
For years I thought Page was a dick for doing that to Collins but after seeing this YT vid I wonder if he actually knew that it was likely going to be a car crash regardless of who was drumming, because it seems that a lot of people play that section completely wrong anyway, including Tony Thompson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhlLtd19szw
― MaresNest, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
Phil's book has a whole section on Zep at Live Aid. He makes a pretty convincing case that he was the only one that had any clue what was going on, exacerbated in part by drugs (Page and Thompson), general assholery (Plant), totally shitty playing and singing (Page and Plant), and a complete lack of preparation (everyone but Phil).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
Here's an intriguing quote from Plant on one aborted post Live Aid reunion btw:
“As much as he wanted to do it, it wasn’t the time for Pagey to do that,” Plant said in 1988. “He had just finished the second Firm record, and I think he was a bit confused about what he was doing…We did about two days. It was a most embarrassing moment, to have all that will and not knowing what to play. Jonesy played keyboards, I played bass a bit. It sounded like David Byrne meets Hüsker Dü.”
Robert Plant playing bass? David Byrne meets Husker Du!?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
Lol that it is easier to count that way. Grouping it as odd time signatures (where downbeats are accented) still makes more sense to me. His first bar is fine but placing accents on the & of 4 in the next two bars seems crazy. I'd rather count 7/8, 4/4, 9/8. 2xp
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
Still, good analysis/transcription
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
(or the version he has around 4:06 works too)
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I don't think I agree with the guy in the video that it was meticulously worked out against a strict 4/4, I reckon they felt their way through after a lot of rehearsing or perhaps JPJ comped it up like you suggest sund4r.
― MaresNest, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
It's fun watching the Live Aid clip as PC momentarily down tools and wipes his face with a towel while TT crashes through the section like a drunk rhinoceros.
― MaresNest, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
haha man i'm watching this now, don't know if i've ever seen the whole set
jfc jimmy page a fucking mess
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
every time I see this bumped it gives me the impression that Phil is being physically attacked
― frogbs, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
Plant's not in good voice either. Clearly he was unused to yelling after the moody song-poems he'd sung for two years.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
yeah he sounds rough too, though it's hard not to rubberneck at page jizzing semi-random pentatonic splatter all over the walls
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
Jimmy Page is the worst thing about that performance, to be honest... he's completely on another planet. The solo in particular is excruciating.
Also, Phil was used to doing drum duets live onstage with Genesis by that point - the difference being him and Chester Thompson were generally better prepared!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
just saw that yeah, he's sitting down a lot on this tour. I mean, this is just sad looking:
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:08 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Because of his dodgy back, I think. He finds it very painful to stand for long periods, hence the seated performances.
― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 29 October 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that's right - I've seen a couple of recent interviews where he's been medicated up to the eyeballs.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 October 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/phil-collins2.jpg
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link
Turns up everywhere does Phil, here he is as a blacksmith on the cover of a Planxty album.
https://shop.totallyvinyl.com/img/uploads/images/planxty/PLANXTY_COLLECTION_LP_1.jpg
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link