Hm. That’s
didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo. 📹
― Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
hmm, i did not pay to watch that video. anyway, the acetate mix is out there ... somewhere.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
I can watch the video without being asked to pay
― Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
Hm. Tried again and then again and it finally worked, third time was the charm. Sorry for the kerfuffle.
― Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
Maybe a stupid question but... Does the "correct speed" version of BOTT sound noticeably different? I can't imagine it does, but I'd be interested in opinions. I'd be tempted to buy the mp3s if it were worth it.
― Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
does the box set include the chopped&screwed version of BotT?
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
Blood on the Traps
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link
Duke, for comparison you can find those "slowed down" original versions online, there was an audiophile vinyl reissue in the 80s that had the speed corrected, believe it's called the hi-speed remaster
not a big difference, but it is noticeable
― niels, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link
I guess you can also ilxmail me your email and I can send you a link
Very kind, thanks. I think I can actually replicate this reasonably well by slowing down my CD version of the album. My player supports that in increments of 0.1%
According to someone over at Steve Hoffmann, the differences are
Tangled Up in Blue 2.30%Simple Twist of Fate 2.30%You're a Big Girl Now 2.28%Idiot Wind 2.25%You're Gonna Make... 2.21%Meet Me in the Morning 2.35%Lily, Rosemary... 1.74%If You See Her Say Hello 0.68%Shelter From the Storm 0.68%Buckets of Rain 0.61%Total 1.77%
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
haha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
is there more stuff from the minneapolis dates that they didn't release on this?
i thought there were full version from both mpls and NY
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
the master takes from mpls are the only surviving recordings apparently ... which is too bad! was just jamming the mpls "idiot wind" and the drummer is a monster.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
ah damn :(
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:12 (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkhaha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:23 (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:12 (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:23 (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
What is this you're referring to? I thought the 6 disc edition had basically everything. Clearly I need to up my Dylan knowledge!
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
this guy: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/7844i don't know if it's really necessary
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link
Sorry, I meant the BOTT test pressing referred to above
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
the BOTT test pressing is where the NY Sessions bootlegs came from: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rare-test-pressing-of-bob-dylans-blood-on-the-tracks-found-55074/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
are all those tracks on the set though? could you just make a playlist
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
everything's been remixed, so you're not getting the OG BOTT on the new set. #OGBOTT
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
Ah. Ok. Thanks! That doesn't bother me so much. But let's get the hashtag trending!!!
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
I'm really torn with this one. I could afford the full set right now. But I don't think I need it. But if I just get the single disc I'll begin to worry I'm missing out. First world problems!
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
it's kinda lame they went with either the huge set or 1 disc....usually they've done 2CD sets that get most of the essential stuff for $20-25
see listings for this...think it's japanese? don't know if it's a 2CD (what is "Blu-spec"??) or if it's just expensive because it's an import?
https://www.amazon.com/More-Blood-Tracks-Blu-spec-CD2/dp/B07H5VVD8N/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540933235&sr=8-3&keywords=more+blood+more+tracks+dylan&dpID=517x%252BIB6qxL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link
It says "number of discs: 1". Confusing
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
Agree that a 2disc selection would have been good
it may just be an import i can't find anything credible on it
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
It has 11 tracks; probably just a Blu-spec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-spec_CD) version of the domestic 1CD release.
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
what is blu spec?
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
See that Wikipedia link... it’s a different CD manufacturing format (which still plays on standard players).
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
Ah woops... Also goddamn I'm gonna have to some Blu spec CD now
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
#OGBOTT #BLUSPEC
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
*tweets furiously*
― Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
Tyler I demand an article from you talking about how the American version is far inferior to the #BluSpec
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link
you haven't heard BLOOD til you've heard it on BLU
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
Tangled Up in Blu-spec CD2
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link
BluSpec For the Tracks
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
Japan is cool, b/c physical media has remained popular there, so Sony etc. have continued to "improve" CDs into the 2000s (I put "improve" in quotes, b/c I don't know if it's actually an improvement or not... I bet it is, though!)
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
@aquadrunkard Basically the Only Good Dylan Album is the #BluSpec CD of Street Legal, by tylerw
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
#SpecLegal
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link
#GottaSpecSomebody
― The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
great work itt everybody, appreciate it
― niels, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link
are all those tracks on the set though? could you just make a playlist― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:24 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkeverything's been remixed, so you're not getting the OG BOTT on the new set. #OGBOTT― tylerw, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:24 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ha, I don’t mean to come across insane. I just wanted an inexpensive way to hear the original album without having to buy the entire set and create a playlist I can’t hear in the car.
Though, Tyler, your article mentioned that Paul Griffin’s organ is now low in the mix, which is a crime.
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
don't think i say it's low in the mix? it's just differently mixed from the acetate version I've known forever, and maybe to its detriment.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
article about the minnesota musicians from my local paper
http://www.startribune.com/minnesotans-finally-get-credit-for-playing-on-bob-dylan-s-1975-classic-blood-on-the-tracks/499161281/
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
nice -- didn't realize til recently that a lot of the same guys played on Kottke's Dreams and All That Other Stuff and various Cat Stevens recordings.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link
that is cool! they were usually framed as a sub-par band iirc
― niels, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
this is so weird, like it's hard for me to judge other version of stuff like "tangled up in blue" where so much of the phrasing etc of the released in burned into my brain
really like "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 5)" very nice low key groove
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
Kinda like it’s written in your soul, huh?
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
Just bought the one disc version. Couldn't bring myself to spring for the full monty. Look forward to listening later
― Duke, Friday, 2 November 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link