The 'Shit Trend' in pop music right now

Is there a term for the Rag'n'Bone Man objectively the second worst noise in the world voice?

The multi-voice 'oh-oh-OHH-oh oh-oh-OHH-oh's or variations of it filling in the gaps between the lyrics in choruses. Imagine Dragons, Arcade Fire, all that shit. It will not go away.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre)

This is something I had mentioned to my millennial sister when I brought up that a lot of music sounds the same. When she recalled that conversation, last November, I took a different stance by admitting that there are some cases of less than modern songs with 'oh-oh-ohs' that I enjoy. I regret admitting that because it diminishes the fact that 'ohs' are an ever prevalent, annoying trend.

Anyways, I watched this video today and the narrator mentions a variation dubbed the Millennial Whoop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII

Overall this video presents a pretty accurate explanation on why popular modern music is awful. For someone presenting a negative opinion (although presented as fact) it is surprising that this video has a 93% like ratio on a site used largely by younger people. He also seems to believe there is tons of musical brainwashing due to the mere-exposure effect - although he doesn't say how much.

What led me here was googling "why do I dislike modern music"; maybe you would too if you couln't name a single new artist that you like from the past decade. Anyhow, many responses were "people grew up on and formed their musical opinions based on something different" (this answer is actually pretty interesting when you get into details about why certain music styles, content, and feelings embodied certain eras) and also "you are closed-minded" or "you haven't heard any good non-mainstream stuff". When I check out some of the recommended underground or indie music it's always sounds bad or mehhhh. Maybe if I keep trying I'll eventually find something I like -- or maybe I am closed-minded 🤔. I suppose that is possible but I feel like that I can point out several good reasons why each song I try is boring or bad. I guess I won't know until I write those reasons down and analyze them while trying time and time again to like something new from the past decade.

you couln't name a single new artist that you like from the past decade

What led me here was googling "why do I dislike modern music"

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though I would like to see the reasons why Kendrick Lamar songs are bad or boring written down and analyzed

you're gonna get primaried with that attitude

we already have a flappy bird this just seems excessive

xpost lol I mean he either dislikes Kendrick or has never heard him, which would mean he's not trying all that hard

Rather than getting analytical about why what you don't like sucks, why not analyze why what you *do* like is awesome, and use that as a guide to finding new stuff?

and he said oooh eeee oohhh ahh ahh
ting tang
walla walla bing bang

xpppppp to Arms Length,
Actually now that I think about it I did really like the songs 'Genesis' by Grimes in 2012, 'Play' by iamamiwhoami in 2012, and 'Helena Beat' by Foster the People in 2011 - but all their other songs that I've heard are mostly variations of meh and in some cases bad imo. Likewise, there might be a couple other "new" artists that I'm forgetting about who had just 1 song I really liked.

I thought about starting a thread where try to rationally explain why I don't like stuff people recommend to me; but even if its for shits and giggles I'm pretty sure some ILXors rather I keep opinions to myself.

xp to zchrys,
I do try to use rym and other people's playlists to better guide me to new music but at this point all my good discoveries are dated

I thought about starting a thread where try to rationally explain why I don't like stuff people recommend to me

would not read

anti-shits and giggles r u?

oh, you use rym! great! ok, you are allowed to think modern music sucks but first you have to listen to every record on this list and agree that it is bad

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/rushomancy/pathological-listening/

note that you are allowed to like the archival releases on the bottom of page 4 and the top of page 5.

That video is garbage btw.

That video has over 7 million views and 93% like ratio.

Rushomancy, if you start a thread for me and recommend some songs I'll give you some cliff note opinions

Keep in mind he only discusses mainstream music

^ video guy. not rushomancy as far as I know

That video has over 7 million views and 93% like ratio.

And your point is?

that was my point

nearly every youtube video that hasn't been like hate-brigaded has that sort of like ratio lol

skimming the video this is just rockist nonsense intended to reinforce the prejudices of people who already don't like modern pop with claims like "the vast majority of pop music today is built using the exact same combination of keyboard, drum machine, sampler and computer software. this sucks the creativity and originality out of music."

let's not lose the main point though...most music does suck

I dunno, ask ufo and Tom D. is modern mainstream pop music sucks

I saw a 13 minute video on youtube yesterday where some teenagers walked around with canes, pretended to be blind, fell in the street and wailed in terrible Adam Sandler voices and it had a 98% like ratio

ask Neanderthal too

It probably does but not as much as that shitty video.

deflection?

That vid is about as good as the one by the guy who claims Katy Perry is really adult Jon-Benet Ramsey

It's a bad presentation of data with awkward metaphors, cherry picking, strawman arguments & other cliche rockist sentiments.

Doesn't mean you can't have your opinion of mainstream music. Bad video though.

that "millennial whoop" thing was not coined by the video, in its (incredibly slight) defense; that said the thinkpiece it came from is equally bad

https://thepatterning.com/2016/08/20/the-millennial-whoop-a-glorious-obsession-with-the-melodic-alternation-between-the-fifth-and-the-third/

(xp) Yes, I am a long way from being a fan of mainstream pop music fwiw!

I really don't care about this video.

What do you all thinks makes modern mainstream pop music different from before?

I'm older.

i don't think mainstream pop is in a particularly exciting place at the moment but it's not categorically bad or anything, there's still plenty of mainstream music i've loved this year

Rushomancy, if you start a thread for me and recommend some songs I'll give you some cliff note opinions

― (V) (;,,;) (V) (FlopsyDuck)

no, i'm not going to spoon-feed you.

i have no reason to believe that you're anything other than one of the many reactionary whiners such as one finds in great quantity on the internet. put in some good-faith effort and maybe people will be more inclined to engage with you in good faith. on the other hand, if you're looking for someone to drag you, kicking and screaming, into 2019, well, i suspect you will have a difficult time of it.

One difference is that you're thinking about all of modern mainstream music, and only the stuff from before that people still remember.

What are the characteristics of modern mainstream music that make it different?

I saw a 13 minute video on youtube yesterday where some teenagers walked around with canes, pretended to be blind, fell in the street and wailed in terrible Adam Sandler voices and it had a 98% like ratio

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)

it would be 99% if they had OWNED some SJWs along the way

What are the characteristics of modern mainstream music that make it different?

― (V) (;,,;) (V) (FlopsyDuck)

passover isn't for another three and a half months flopsyduck wait your turn

I know why we are sensitive about generalizing people but if we're too sensitive to generalize modern mainstream pop music by providing characteristics of how it differs from the past... and then admitting that that could be a possibility of why it sucks as opposed to "I'm close-minded", well we might as well start having our weekly faps while wearing kid gloves.

I don't know man. You're not making a lot of sense. You claim that you haven't heard any artists you like from the past decade (except for 3 songs) including underground and indie stuff, but then keep asking why "mainstream pop" is worse now. Worse than when? 1967? 2008?

The last Alice in Chains album is better than you might expect.

I don't even listen to pop and I have new pop artist trax in my Spotify

What led me here was googling "why do I dislike modern music"

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What are the characteristics of modern mainstream music that make it different?

― (V) (;,,;) (V) (FlopsyDuck)

passover isn't for another three and a half months flopsyduck wait your turn

no, i'm not going to spoon-feed you.

i have no reason to believe that you're anything other than one of the many reactionary whiners such as one finds in great quantity on the internet. put in some good-faith effort and maybe people will be more inclined to engage with you in good faith. on the other hand, if you're looking for someone to drag you, kicking and screaming, into 2019, well, i suspect you will have a difficult time of it.

― errang (rushomancy) Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:12 PM

Your opinion is noted. I don't have the slightest idea how reviewing someone's top tracks, if they are interested in me doing so, equates to looking for someone to drag me kicking and screaming into 2019. I thought it would be a fun inner-discovery activity for me and I bet reviewing music could be kind of fun. However, I didn't think it would be as fun for the people giving me links and that's why I didn't bother starting a new thread.

As for the "I'm not going to spoon-feed you" comment, I literally thought you might be interested in my review after you posted your rym profile for me to check out. p.s. I came across your moniker on rym a couple months ago.

I don't know man. You're not making a lot of sense. You claim that you haven't heard any artists you like from the past decade (except for 3 songs) including underground and indie stuff, but then keep asking why "mainstream pop" is worse now. Worse than when? 1967? 2008?

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:34 PM

I was only referencing mainstream stuff because of the video that I posted. But I seriously can't name any new artist (underground/indie/mainstream/whatever) from the last decade that I would want to own their album. But yes, the 2000's are largely similar to the 2010's and I have very little favs from that era as well. I don't mention old groups (starting in the 60's-90's) because many of them did put out albums I like in the 00's and 10's. Also I could probably find a all around good ambient or instrumental album from the 10's if I wanted to.

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The last Alice in Chains album is better than you might expect.

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:36 PM
I should listen to the Alice in Chains. Thanks for the recommendation, I keep forgetting about that one.

is flopsyduck the latest iteration of raccoontanuki? anyway that video is evidently awful but this response to it that i saw a while ago was interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNdps0daF8

flopsylorax

Thought this thread was about Lil Wayne

that takedown video is good but way more effort than the original really deserved at all