― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link
Or, I don't know, maybe you could give your reasoning.
― David Allen, Friday, 19 September 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:05 (twenty years ago) link
My feelings could best be expressed with this emoticon:
:-P
― David Allen, Friday, 19 September 2003 07:05 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:17 (twenty years ago) link
now you die
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 19 September 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 19 September 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious ;-) (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
― kill me now, Friday, 19 September 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Vious, Friday, 19 September 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
When I give you advice you'll know it! Besides, I think we agree anyway. I'm sorry if I offended you.
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 September 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
Really though, it's not like I said, "And I prefer this song to other rap music! Jay-Z/The Neptunes/Timbaland/Anybody else who is well-respected around here is just too... oh you know, negro!"
I really don't care who recorded it, at what time, or of what race. It's just a good song.
― David Allen, Friday, 19 September 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
― David Allen, Friday, 19 September 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
Agree with trife on the idea of Outkast's fanbase being folks who not only make a point of telling you they have black friends, but can count/list those friends if asked.* When Stankonia came out, Alternative Press put Outkast on the cover. I predicted to the editor that it would be their lowest-selling issue of the year. It was. I've never again been as confident about the collective good taste of the AP readership, but that one time they were right on the money.
*I don't have any friends, and I like it that way.
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
Okay, these people exist, and they might be annoying to you, but what is the point of criticizing them? They have a lot to learn about race. We all do.
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 19 September 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
Lack of exposure to black culture?And I think Curtis was just pointing out what was either an inconsistency in your argument or some semantic trouble... whatever, you're just being faux-naif anyway, you strawman
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
Worried about ending up with a tarnished reputation. Some people care about what others think of them. (fwiw I'm not one of those people)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
The Fugitive ha ha ha
(I see whatcher sayin, I guess I just happen to know some really panty-waist PC-types who just don't want their permanent record to bear a scarlet "R")
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Dracula's WeddingPrototype (possibly the best song on the album)SpreadShe Lives In My LapA Day In The Life Of Andre Benjamin
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
"Dracula's Wedding" is super-funky-awesome though.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Hahaha okay we are just not going to agree here!
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
'Toxic'>>>>>every other overplay victim.
― Be sure to Moebius Loop! Moebius Loop! Moebius Loop! Moebius Loop! (Barima), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
(xpost)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh get over yourselves you limey twerps
― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Overrated thread
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i like to think that this is still ILM's favourite single of the 00s
― blueski, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
wow, people really had their heads way up their asses here
― The Reverend, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I've actually ADDED this into my rotation of iPod tracks as of a few months ago. Why the hell was I so down on this song???
― Tantrum The Cat, Friday, 12 September 2008 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Not enough flanged guitars in this track
― Fer Ark, Friday, 12 September 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The two big influences on this song according to Andre 3000? The Ramones and the Buzzcocks' Singles Going Steady album.
I remember that piece of trivia from an EW interview with the band around the time the song was blowing up.
― Cunga, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link
No wonder it was so beloved by college radio types.
― viborg, Monday, 11 January 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The definitive version of Hey Ya can be found at 1'43'' here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItMJtA8vfpw&feature=player_embedded
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that would be excruciating enough if they could sing.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont like the song very much. i agree with trife regarding the flaming lips comment. but i also think it has initiated some really interesting discussions regarding tokenism etc, and the people who like the record have said interesting stuff as wellthe song also seems kind of mid-late 090s, that genre-hopping thing, 'eclecticism' etc (the bane of the 90s sadly, making everything a muddy nothing, the excreble Beck etc), so in a way this record seems kind of quaint now, a throwback to that time, and, of course, also a throwback to 1970s sitcom music, which is what this sounds like to me.
1970s sitcom music can be a good thing, but i would say not in the case of this record, which feels too much like a spoof of some unknown american comedy show which never travelled across the Atlantic
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, January 1, 2004 6:36 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is kinda otm.
first time i heard this song i pictured it getting MTV2 rotation for a few weeks and zero radio play before they came with some bigger better follow-up hit, still kind of bitter that that didn't happen.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
this song's time signature is soooo visionary
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link