Kept not help. Sunday, eh?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 12:12 (five years ago) link
you didn't spark an argument, macdara, imago is always like this
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
yet each kudos it receives cuts into me like a personal affront
― imago, Saturday, January 12, 2019 1:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you really need to stop taking other people liking things personally
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:33 (five years ago) link
I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
Imago my man you know I got love for you but it never fails to crack me up when you get on your speak truth to power schtick as if you're standing up to the cultural hegemony of, say, the Beatles except it's always a band like Horse Lords who literally only like 20k nerds like us on the entire planet even know who they are....as if a man can't go down to the pub for a pint without some bloke jabbering on about Horse Lords
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
I want to go to the Horse Lords pub
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
they only have a horse lords night once a month, the rest of the time it's all "dondestan"
"I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)"
it comes off to me as being in the grand tradition of the dave marsh school of criticism. i don't have any particular objection to dave marsh but i find his writing more valuable when he's talking about his favorite rock and roll records of 1962 than when he's attempting to review sparks records
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
Tbf imago hating Palm is more like Marsh working out why he doesn't like a 60s soul record when he lives for Marvin Gaye as opposed to Marsh bullshitting about latent fascism in every 70s prog record.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link
macdara you certainly didn't spark an argument, i was just being an asshole
sund4r why do u like this then, what are some ways in
― imago, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
I'm down with imago's takedowns fwiw
being passionate about the music you like is a good thing. being as passionate about the music you hate is not.
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link
But there's nothing won't with a little filtering either. Unilateral negativity does tend to make the thread more about the poster than about the music.
― enochroot, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
― Paul Ponzi
great words of wisdom. similarly, can one _really_ call oneself a pacifist unless one's killed something?
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
i enjoyed imago’s post.
i mean god forbid somebody expresses an opinion on something they can’t quite get into. the post was thoughtful i thought, and i def don’t get the condescending vibes some ppl are picking up on here.
also sund4r otm re: marsh.
also let’s be kind to each other please, imago’s post was sincere and coming from a place of love i think
― budo jeru, Monday, 14 January 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link
Imago, I'm trying to articulate it on a couple of listens. I was almost guaranteed to like something that got compared to both Mew and Horse Lords. I think a lot has to do with the way the tempo changes and stops and starts can feel almost viscerally jarring while the gentle, melodic vocal lines almost work like a balm. The guitar sound (with chorus, harmonizer, and short delay, I think, playing these mid to high-register staccato figures, with angular melodic choices) is really distinct and has similar sweet/jarring quality. They don't give you the kind of satisfaction in terms of formal development of songwriting that Mew do: they're doing something more aphoristic, like Wire did maybe?(Probably This Heat too but I don't know them well enough.)
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
Obv remains to be seen whether it stands the test of time but it is grabbing me rn.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:38 (five years ago) link
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)
i can accept that, but there's still no actual answer there. god knows i've spent plenty of fruitless time trying to figure out systematically why i like some things and don't like others, because it would save me a lot of effort listening to music i wind up not liking. there's no answer there. a large percentage of music is music i don't particularly like, which doesn't make it bad, which doesn't make other people wrong for liking it. there are so many other things for me to be upset, offended, and enraged by that hating music, most of the time, just seems like a fucking waste.
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 11:48 (five years ago) link
TS: getting riled up from hating music vs. getting riled up by other people hating music
― dorsalstop, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
it's a fair cop, i've been extremely cranky and irritable ever since i gave up on arguing politics and i'm definitely taking out my repressed hostility on this thread
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:29 (five years ago) link
been feeling a bit ashamed because the bit flopson picked on really was a little too much
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:30 (five years ago) link
I can kinda get imago's qualms. I have seen this band live twice and was utterly entranced both times, but when I try to listen to their records, I get bored. They are really good at building tension through repetition, and the tension seems to come across with much more power in a live setting.
― days of being riled (zchyrs), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
xp no it wasn't. good lord. i like palm (i think i started this thread) but i enjoyed imago's post. good points, thoughtful examination trying to work out why they don't like palm or horse lords. it's interesting. imago is not turrican. come on everyone
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
tbh i am also weary of polyrhythmic rock bands on record, and i much prefer palm & horse lords live (though i think they've made great records - i just don't find myself reaching for them very often. unlike Don Cab)
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
but maybe if i was around... wherever tf don cab were from and was able to see them dozens of times i'd feel differently
some of you are being way too reasonable to me haha, I should have toned my post way down while still examining my misgivings
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link
I can certainly imagine this lot being quite the force as a live band
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
what's to tone down? god forbid someone disagrees or tries to figure out why they hate a band you like... honestly perplexed at reaction to your post.
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
New album is growing on me. Not as immediate as Rock Island, the hooks are slightly hidden in the more maximalist production. I’m OK with that.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 17 October 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
forgot this is where i beefed with flopson lol. sorry flopson
will give these guys another chance
― imago, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
Grateful for this thread revive. It's like ILM clash of the titans.
Also I will check out this band and report back with my beloved hot takes.
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
Ok so I listened to the new one and imago's "monumentally unpleasant take" on the previous album is still pretty much otm.
― The Ghost Club, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 03:52 (one year ago) link