You wouldn't just say to people you need the whole of a big book or whatever to get it. Its perfectly fine to sample.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
I do think of All End as more of a statement track or some sort of contextual piece than something that works alone. It's not representative of their sound and while it's fairly interesting in the way the drone shifts around, I don't think of it as being much different from other extended drone pieces that exist
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
Something like violvoic or e0 fromt he NTS sessions would have been a more representative highlight, although I see why All End was chosen.
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I described my ambivalence earlier, but an hour-long noise drone probably needs to be listened to in its full duration to be evaluated. xp to LBI
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link
You wouldn't just say to people you need the whole of a big book or whatever to get it.
Actually…
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend judging Moby Dick based on excerpts either.
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
(But it may be weird to see it pop up on a short-story poll...)
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend judging Moby Dick based on excerpts either.― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, February 1, 2019 10:16 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, February 1, 2019 10:16 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hmmm i judged it on its name (moby dick) and one of its covers (whale) and i judged it as "VERY good" and so far as i understand i was correct
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link
Does "tracks" imply brevity? xp
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
I listened to all of All End and it certainly wasn't groundbreaking. Was it different from all the other tracks? Yes. Would the poll results have been better with (a lot) more variety? Yes, as Matt pointed out even within popular music this was a rather narrow vein.
― rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
we're all getting old
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
xxp No, but its length does make it an anomaly. I’m not saying it should be dq’d or anything... it’s actually pretty impressive that it placed, given its nature
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link
I'm just saying the blues-rock riff doesn't really give you a sense of Bonham's extended solo.
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
This twitter account on Moby Dick is what got me to read the book (years of just lazily thinking that I don't need to read about whaling):
https://twitter.com/MobyDickatSea
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
That twenty minute live rendition on How the West Was Won is quite something indeed.
xp
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
But you'd get more if you read the whole blog: https://voices.clickhole.com/the-time-i-spent-on-a-commercial-whaling-ship-totally-c-1825124286xp
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
Hahaha
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
In fact there are a lot of excerpts from big books on twitter, or people sharing favourite passages that convince you to commit a large chunk of time to very big books.
I know a drone might be a different business although the lenghty drones I like pull me in quite quickly (some are longer than an hour). I didn't get that sense from autechre.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
Sund4r otm
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
Seriously, though, it's meant as a palate cleanser. It's worth at least sampling the other tracks to appreciate the contrast.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
can definitely see why people consider 'all end' the highlight of those sessions but it's a really weird track to place in this context, especially when the NTS Sessions are full of absolute corkers that probably would've converted a few of you lot
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
did anything from elseq place in 2016?
frogbs otm, I get the impression it was a consensus pick to get something from the NTS Sessions on the singles poll
I can't remember, did we break them out by individual session for the albums poll?
― mh, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
no, I just voted for them as a whole, which again is a bit odd b/c each of the 4 sessions on their own is almost certainly longer than anything else that'll place
so I guess in some sense, an hour-long track making the singles poll is pretty in character for Autechre
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
Is that the longest track to make any of these singles polls?
― jmm, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
no - Nyan Cat and Bieber extended beat it by a fair few hours I think
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
You do need to listen to all 10 hours of Nyan Cat to get it.
― jmm, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link
Also true of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
imo you don’t particularly need to listen to all of the nts sessions but i’d recommend at least listening to the beginning of nts 4 just to get the sense that “all end” is not necessarily a singular, ground-breaking, mind-bending drone (though it is mind-bending) but is more of a destination
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
NTS 2 is more fun though.
(yes I'm turning this into another Autechre thread)
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
Maybe silly to vote for a destination in a tracks poll tho?
I dunno, you kids and your polls
― Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
my brain is broken because it just came up with "baby shark (extended autechre mix)"
― mh, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
bloop bloop bloop bloop bloop bloop
― jmm, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link
well i didn’t vote for it! but as part of a listening experience i can see why ppl isolated it, it is a massively heavy and impressive end to the project
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
Yeah I wasn't singling you out Brad I just think "tracks" and voting gives people odd ideas sometimes, like it's not a natural unit of listening for some pollsters but they chime in anyway
― Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link
like not everyone could agree on the more scrambled and runic autechre tracks from the sessions but almost everyone agreed that “all end” melted their brain down into pancake batter
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link
I thought Nyan Cat was like 3 minutes and someone just extended it to 10 hrs on YouTube, as they do
lmao @ the Bieber thing making it. slow year
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link
ranked, bold didn't place:
Low - FlyDie Nerven – NiemalsLump - Curse of the Contemporary Julia Holter - I Shall Love 2okkervil river - famous tracheotomiesSnail Mail - Speaking TermsHollydays – L’odeur des jointsThe Breeders - MetaGothBeliu – Win EverydayJ Mascis - See You at the MoviesMeshell Ndegeocello - WaterfallsMalakoff Kowalski - My First Piano The Beths - Little DeathGrouper - Parking LotTropical Fuck Storm – Rubber BulliesMelody's Echo Chamber - ShirimParquet Courts - Almost Had to Start a Fight/In and Out of PatienceThe Nels Cline 4 - Imperfect 10Tocotronic – Bis uns das Licht vertreibtRichard Thompson - The Storm Won't ComeAimee Mann - Drivejimothy lacoste - subway systemElement of Crime – Am ersten Sonntag nach dem WeltuntergangJohnny Marr – Hi HelloTracey Thorn - Smoke
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
wrong thread, sorry.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
this is the Autechre thread now
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
btw have they 19 new live albums out yesterday, so 80% of your albums AND tracks ballot is done for next year
And every video had a play count more than 100x the population of my canton, these are entrepreneurs at work doing a bang up job at the youtube coalface, the edicts allow for the occasional downvote!
― saer
Hahaha <3
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
That's Our Saer! tm
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
Burna Boy song has a nice ominous vibe. Almost funereal
― imago, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
btw have they 19 new live albums out yesterday
they really don't half-ass anything, huh
― simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 February 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
i would have voted for Raveena's "Honey" if i'd heard it in time, wtf omg
― omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link
Yeah, people started hyping that one after I'd voted, and I was mostly happy with my ballot, so I didn't resubmit.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 February 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
^the repping for Raveena just caught me in time for my ballot to include it. This was very nearly exhibit A as to Why Campaigning Works; one more vote would have done it.
But then, Kali Uchis would've been 78'd and that would never do.
The 1975 watch: for those keeping score, I managed 1'33" of Love It If We Made It.
― Jeff W, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link
your credibility is in tatters
― ||||||||, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link