ILM Top 77 Tracks of 2018 Poll Afterparty: Ballots, Recrimination, Statistics and Damned Lies

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Oh thanks Jeff for the additional explanations, I like those obscure names.

Nabozo, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:23 (five years ago) link

I remember "blood sausage" morphed into an ILM/ILX in-joke but I don't remember how

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link

wow i finally know what blood sausage index is

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

blood sausage = only the british like it? lots of Manic Street Preachers and the like?

omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

Thank you, seandalai!

Bolded didn't place. Underlined are ones I believe I discovered on the nominations list.

Robyn - Honey
Empress Of - When I'm With Him
Kacey Musgraves – High Horse
Janelle Monáe ft. Grimes - Pynk
The 1975 – Love it if we made it
Chance The Rapper - 65th & Ingleside
Travis Scott - Sicko Mode

MGMT - when you die
Adrianne Lenker - symbol
Simmy ft. Sun-EL Musician - Ubala
Patawawa - Patagonia
now, now – knowme

Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever - Talking Straight
Kasper Marrot - Keflavik
Valee – Vlone
Christine & The Queens - Doesn't Matter (Voleur de soleil)
Ella Mai – Boo'd Up
Troye Sivan – My! My! My!
Ariana Grande - Thank U, Next
Snail Mail – Pristine
Pusha T - If You Know You Know
U.S. Girls - M.A.H
Meg Baird and Mary Lattimore - Fair Annie
Rae Sremmurd ft. Juicy J - Powerglide
Peggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)

Singles I would have voted for had they been nominated:

Ashley McBryde - Girl Goin Nowhere
boygenius - Me & My Dog
Foxing - Nearer My God
Charlie Puth - Boy
Whitey Morgan & The 78s - Around Here
Belle Plaine - For All Those Who I Loved

Indexed, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

it was whiney related xp

Oor Neechy, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

Search 'pippa's arse'

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link

Alexa, what's the newsy wewsies?

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link

british for blood sausage is black pudding xps

nxd, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link

/tests out random tracks
more than half of this list is just dance club music

٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 1 February 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link

someone once told me, and i will eating a black pudding is like eating a giant scab

never forgetting that comparison

still tasty

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Friday, 1 February 2019 23:59 (five years ago) link

that eating*

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

Late to discussion re appeal of "Itgehane": I agree with characterizations such as "extremely warm and feel-good", "beautiful sparkling construction" etc, BUT would add that as well as being top bobbins it also works p well as an actual words-and-tune song. (The Orielles cover really brought this out for me.) This most likely broadened its appeal even more, I'd guess.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

^^^ cosign. if you missed it, the peggy gou remix of "at night" was nominated and is similarly gorgeous and euphoric.

davey, Saturday, 2 February 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

My weighted infinite antifuxxor tracks ballot:

bold: did not place, italic: sole voter

Starboy ft. Wizkid, Terri, Spotless & Ceeza Milli - Soco (#61)
Starboy ft. Duncan Mighty & Wizkid - Fake Love (#152)
Prince Kaybee ft. Busiswa & TNS - Banomoya (#59)
GuiltyBeatz ft. Mr Eazi, Pappy Kojo & Patapaa - Akwaaba (#226)
Olamide - Logba Logba (#517)
Burna Boy - Gbona (#97)

Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (#5)
Olamide & Wizkid - Kana (#337)
Prince Kaybee ft. LaSoulmates, TNS & Zanda Zakuza - Club Controller (#196)
Lalo Ebratt - Mocca (+ Remix ft. J Balvin) (#622)
Wizkid - Fever (#143)
DJ Spinall ft. Kizz Daniel - Baba (#661)
Zinaro ft. JB of Thee Legacy & Dust - Dali Wami (#676)

Simmy - Umahlalela (#39)
Burna Boy - On the Low (#207)
DJ Spinall ft. Wizkid - Nowo (#840)
DJ Tunez ft. Reekado Banks & Wizkid - Turn Up (#868)

Calvin Harris ft. Dua Lipa - One Kiss (#147)
Idowest ft. Davido - Ji Masun (#921)
Mayorkun ft. Davido - Bobo (#940)

Aya Nakamura - Djadja (#392)
Saad Lamjarred - Ghazali (#965)
Rayvanny - Chombo (#979)

Eddy Kenzo - Your Value (Super Dopa) (#423)
DJ Snake ft. Ozuna, Cardi B & Selena Gomez - Taki Taki (#1002)

Tracks I nominated that got sole votes from others:

Rosalía - Di Mi Nombre (#517)
Dladla Mshunqisi ft. Nokwazi & Prince Kaybee - Wangibamba (#661) (yes!!!!)
Wande Coal - So Mi So (#882)

Special shout out to the other person who voted for Eddy Kenzo’s “Your Value (Super Dopa)”, as their #4 no less!

...and to my top neighbour, longneck (who’d have thought!)

Oh, and honorable mention for best discovery from the rollout: “2000 Elefanten” by Die Wilde Jagd.

breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

Re: the Burna bloodbath: not surprised by the vote splitting, but the dismal showing of “Ye” is kind of shocking nonetheless. It does bode extremely well for the album poll though. Looks like we have at least 8 people who have Outside very high on their ballot.

breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link

Actually it was interesting to run through the list and think about which other languages were represented. I miss, but am too lazy to reproduce, lex's geographic breakdown that he'd always have ready right at the end

― rob, vrijdag 1 februari 2019 1:29 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’m late to this thread, so I saw this post only now, but you're in luck: I posted a country breakdown in the rollout thread yesterday. Here it is, in a slightly tweaked version (cheers, Tuomas!):

I know you’ve all been waiting for this one, a valuable tradition started (afaik) by Lex, here it is, beter late than never...

YOUR *UPDATED* OFFICIAL COUNTRY BREAKDOWN:

AUSTRALIA (4): Hatchie, The Chats, Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever, Laura Jean
CANADA (3): Marie Davidson, Peach, Drake
COLOMBIA (5⁄6): [Cardi B ft. Bad Bunny &] J Balvin (⅓), Kali Uchis (½)
DENMARK (1): Kasper Marott
FRANCE (1½): Christine and the Queens [ft. Dâm-Funk] (1½)
GERMANY (4⅓): Die Wilde Jagd, [Talaboman/] Superpitcher (⅓), Kim Petras, DJ Koze, Helena Hauff
HONDURAS (½): Empress Of (½)
IRELAND (2): Krystal Klear, Roísín Murphy
ITALY (1): Donato Dozzy
JAPAN (1): Mitski (2 x ½)
NEW ZEALAND (2): The Beths (2)
NIGERIA (1): Starboy ft. Wizkid, Terri, Spotless & Ceeza Milli
PUERTO RICO (⅓): [Cardi B ft.] Bad Bunny [& J Balvin] (⅓)
SOUTH AFRICA (3): Simmy (ft. Sun-El Musician) (2); Prince Kaybee ft. Busiswa & TNS
SOUTH KOREA (2): Peggy Gou, Red Velvet
SPAIN (2⅓): Rosalía (2), Talaboman [/Superpitcher] (⅓)
SWEDEN (1⅓): Robyn, Talaboman [/Superpitcher] (⅓)
UK (13): The 1975 (4), Ella Mai, Jessie Ware, Kero Kero Bonito, Tirzah, Tracey Thorn, Let’s Eat Grandma, Autechre, Jon Hopkins, Fabiana Palladino
USA (32 5⁄6): Lana Del Rey (2); Ariana Grande (2), Janelle Monáe, Mitski (2 x ½), Kacey Musgraves (2); Sheck Wes, Julia Holter, Pusha T, Empress Of (½), Eris Drew, Rae Sremmurd ft. Juicy J, [Christine and the Queens ft.] Dâm-Funk (½), Lizzo, Octo Octa, Khalid ft. 6LACK & Ty Dolla $ign, Valee ft. Jeremih, Doja Cat, Beach House, MGMT (2), Mr. Twin Sister (2); Natalie Prass, Hop Along, Cardi B [ft. Bad Bunny & J Balvin] (⅓), mewithoutyou, Toni Braxton, Soccer Mommy, Ravyn Lenae, Parquet Courts, Andrew W.K., Kali Uchis (½)

Of course, Drake cheated by crediting neither Big Freedia, nor 5th Ward Weebie, nor Lauryn Hill, and DJ Koze would have done well to credit Gladys Knight - but then again, US artists are overrepresented anyway \_(ツ)_/¯

Please report any mistakes or oversights to me, so I can do the whole damn thing over again. Thank U, next!

breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link

Re: the Burna bloodbath: not surprised by the vote splitting, but the dismal showing of “Ye” is kind of shocking nonetheless. It does bode extremely well for the album poll though. Looks like we have at least 8 people who have Outside very high on their ballot.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, February 2, 2019 9:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think I've voted for it. I only vote for real music on the albums poll, the singles here are just for kicks.
*checks, no I lie, I did vote for it.

Nabozo, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link

I only vote for real music on the albums poll, the singles here are just for kicks.

haha this is my approach too

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:20 (five years ago) link

Albums are just singles with more extra tracks on them

saer, Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:53 (five years ago) link

Most of the time, yes. Anyway, cheers to rob, breastcrawl and everyone else keeping the afro-caribbean threads rolling. Wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for you.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 3 February 2019 08:30 (five years ago) link

Spoilers: the albums poll has way more genre variety than the singles one and ilm delivers better results than most eoy lists

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:54 (five years ago) link

You're preaching to the choir :) I think that self-congratulation is probably exactly what gives us 1975 feasts though :P

Nabozo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:58 (five years ago) link

this year's tracks poll just felt like there was barely any consensus at all so it was mostly just established ILM favourites doing well by default? at least compared to say the last two years which felt a little more unpredictable over the first few days

ufo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:03 (five years ago) link

The albums poll is where it's at, though I'm pretty sure not a single one of my classical noms will place. Not that I did much in the way of campaigning, mind you.

pomenitul, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:03 (five years ago) link

My focus is totally on singles/individual tracks. Every year, there are at the very least 50 tracks that I could put on my tracks ballot with good conscience. Whereas with albums, there are only about a dozen that I’ve lived with enough throughout the year to confidently place them. This is purely a matter of priorities and time management. There’s many more albums that I know I like because I’ve listened to them once or twice (and I do fill up the rest of my ballot with those), or would/could like if I’d only make time for them, but first things first, you know, and the genres I (want and need to) listen to the most are heavily singles-focussed.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 February 2019 11:23 (five years ago) link

Amen.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

(And of course, I’m missing out on a lot, but aren’t we all? As we speak, I’m listening to my “2018 catch-up albums” playlist, filled with albums that sounded by their recommendations (mainly here on ILM) like stuff I would like, and “Warrior Dance” by Idris Ackamoor & The Pyramids came up, and wow, just wow!)

breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

tracks poll > albums, idk why but it’s more exciting to me

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

A nice thing about the tracks poll is that you can listen and comment on the rollout in real time (unless some hour-long ambient thing gets in). Albums are generally too long to do more than sample them. It also helped that I was hearing almost everything for the first time.

Still, I'm excited for the albums rollout.

jmm, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

Historically the tracks rollout makes for a better thread since people can listen to the songs more or less in real time, or at least do those end of the day round-ups, and talk about them so it tended to be the livelier one. (xpost)

Usually I'm with breastcrawl and longneck on tracks over albums, but this year I think I'm slightly more invested in my top albums than my top tracks? Plus if Burna Boy and Popcaan both place (latter is a little doubtful), the resulting list will better reflect my taste than the tracks did--it also helps that I got into a bunch of jazz last year. That said, I didn't even vote for a full 25 albums while culling my tracks ballot was as hard as it always is.

The whole Idris Ackamoor & the Pyramids album is awesome!

rob, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

I'm more of a tracks person than an albums person in general but the albums poll has been consistently more diverse, surprising and interesting than the tracks poll for the last few years. And you can set up months' worth of listening from it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link

Yes, as Simon might point out, it probably helps that you can't generally nominate multiple albums from a single artist

rob, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

Strong list this year. Of the tracks that I hadn't heard before (ie almost all of them) I particularly enjoyed Mo Bamba, Mariners Apartment Complex, Holding On, Powerglide, Donnie Darko, Womp Womp, Lemon Glow, Smoko, Nice For What, Girls On The TV and In My Dreams, so thanks to whoever nominated them and thanks to all the organisers.

paolo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

Here's my list, unweighted

(7th) CB - Talk On My Name
(Hit Squad) Mad Max x (Zone 2) Karma – Facts
Ambush - Man Can't
Cadet x Deno – Advice (Dele Alli)
Carla Dal Forno - Summertime Sadness
CS + Kreme – Husk
DigDat - Air Force
Dizzee Rascal - Don't Gas Me
Domenique Dumont - Sans Cesse, Mon Cheri
Eris Drew - Hold Me (T4T Embrace Mix)
Headie One X RV - Know Better
J Hus - Dark Vader
James Blake - If The Car Beside You Moves Ahead
Jay Glass Dubs - The Sweetest Dub
Julia Holter - I Shall Love 2
K Trap - Anything Else
Kasper Marrot – Keflavik
KO - Never Know
Lady Leshurr – RIP
Mr Fingers - Crying Over You
Ossia - Dub Hell
Parris - Puro Rosaceae
Peggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)
Shackleton - Wakefulness And Obsession
Unknown T – Homerton B

paolo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

The whole Idris Ackamoor & the Pyramids album is awesome!


Can’t wait to explore it further! Does it have any chance of placing in the rollout?

btw rob, hope you saw the country breakdown I posted upthread!

breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

oh I did, yes thank you!

not sure what the Ackamoor album's chances are. tbh I heard it so late in the year that I didn't even rank it very highly (see also: Simmy), but given its mix of jazz and afrobeat (singular) it could have wider appeal than some of the jazz I'm assuming is going to show

rob, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

My comment above was half-trolling half-teasing, but since a conversation emerged I'll weigh in.
I appreciate >sum-of-their-parts albums just as I appreciate albums that go for bang / rely on track strength. No album that contains 3-4 bangers can be bad in my experience, and I prefer to tolerate filler next to greatness than settle for applied, well-crafted, consistent mediocrity. Many genres have always sit in-between being track-based or album-based (even dad-rock albums had their focus on hits for ex.) and that's maybe the ideal combination to have the best of both worlds. And nowadays we have this movement presenting pop more and more as albums, more and more perfected (well, it's not really new). Just as indie did, and ILM at least seems convinced or we wouldn't have it appear in the tracks poll. It's not easy and pointless to cut in the middle. So, based on the same genres and taste, I think I still get surprises and that pushes me to be flexible, like I almost get to choose how I want to experience and keep something.

Nabozo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link

I thought the 2017 tracks results were garbage, and 2018's tracks are a huge improvement. Also congrats to ILM on getting over your guitar phobia.

billstevejim, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

Slightly preferred 2017 I think? Had L'Rain, introduced me to Akrakabo. TBH I miss the days when Jute Gyte and Oranssi Pazuzu could just mosey on in amongst the pop-house

imago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link

Oh and Blue Pedro ffs!

imago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

OK I've scrolled through last year's tracks 77. It's about 10x more interesting, diverse and fun as this year's imo

imago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

as/than

imago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link

tough to separate the two

saer, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

must've been the lower participation

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

I don't recall any huge discoveries from last year's list, although the tracks results from every year as long as I can remember help me re-discover stuff I forgot. The big one from last year for me was "Girl Front."

billstevejim, Sunday, 3 February 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

lol i was listening to "girl front" when i opened this thread, such a good song

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 3 February 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

for anyone enjoying the ongoing genre-blind listening mix and looking to get a jump on 2019, feel free to join us here:
Listening to ILM Listen: February 2019 - Collaborative Listening Project

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

another re-discovery from 2015's results. the song that got me into ty$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFzOQO1jBIU

billstevejim, Sunday, 3 February 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link

I got *extremely* lucky and found a sealed vinyl copy of Raveena’s “Shanti” EP on vinyl (filed under “S”, lol) for a few bucks. Released awhile back, purple wax, OOP R@RE! Eight tracks including Honey and...she is really, really good.

omar little, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link


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