CROOKED RAIN CROOKED POLL

I find all of their antics a lot more charming/funny now then I did, also a lot of it had to do with much hand-wringing at the time over "irony", and honestly I knew people who really liked Smashing Pumpkins & STP who felt like that those lyrics, even though they are obviously tossed off near non-sequiturs (actually that probably made it worse), were real shots fired at those fan bases.

At least in my experience the two tweakers I worked nights with didn't find it very funny that some "college boys" were making fun of them and other choice descriptions said around gobs of chewing tobacco pinched in their cheeks.

did they also use the 3-letter "f"-word?

And the 6 -letter version and several other words & phrases that don't get bandy about anymore, I certainly did.

Yeah but to describe Pavement specifically, lol (I could just tell it followed from "college boys"...)

Ha oh yeah totally, though frankly they way these dudes said it, "college boy" was just about the worst thing you call someone

are we supposed to revisit this every 5 years? i was pretty satisfied with the 20th anniv revisiting.
i did lol at era/error and start screaming KOREA in my head though

this is another one of the albums that the stalker left on my windshield. at the time, i was pretty glad he left me this one because i was going to buy it anyway. i have mostly fond memories of this album + gentlemen.

you people are my people

also, i thought their throats are filled with silence ... i.e. you loop the lyrics back around to the front end of the album. that's a theory i read, anyway.

If you mash up "Trigger Cut"/"Fillmore Jive" you get:

filled with... rocks & sand

Someone recently posted on ILM the original source from which the "Cut Your Hair" cover art was taken (an old German LP?), but I can't find it. If you read this (whoever you are), would you mind reposting? Thx!

I didn't see and can't find the original post, so sorry for not giving credit, but went looking based on that "Melody in F" text in the corner, and this looks like it:
https://www.discogs.com/release/5277469-Beer-Garden-Piano/images

Sorry to whoever originally found it, please do post here!

(There are some other, uhhh, classic cover pics in the Barrel Fingers Barry oeuvre)

Cool, thanks!

happy 30th

Oh hell.

Come on now, talk about your family

Damn

up
to the top of steve shasta gulch

write it on a postcard

in the city we forgot to name

his telephone was found

She is the queen of the House of California (Casa Pasadena), thrill

don't listen to your grandmother's advice about us, you're solid, kid

goodnight
to the rock 'n' roll era

"Fillmore Jive" was the secret key for my appreciation of Pavement.

I brought this record with me to my year studying abroad in Glasgow and this girl I met saw it and goes "oh wow Pavement, I haven't thought about them in forever." This was 1996.

Sorry 1994!

I don’t know about “ultimate” but “Elevate” is to me probably the one song I would pick if someone were to ask for one song to encapsulate what Pavement were all about

the rock kids in their vespas...

Elevate (and ELL Ess two) were and remain for me so central to their character, at their best.

it's a brand new era, but it came too late

xp Wait, isn’t that the same song(?)

i'm not your neighbor you baker street trash

I brought this record with me to my year studying abroad in Glasgow and this girl I met saw it and goes "oh wow Pavement, I haven't thought about them in forever." This was 1996.

Something about the production of cut your hair makes it sound really sludgy over speakers

Worst pavement album (but it's still an alright album)

haha I thought that after WZ came out in 1996, I have since changed my mind and rank it Westing>WZ>S&E>CRCR>BTC>TT but I am biased abt this band, been thinking a lot abt enduring artists I appreciate, e.g. SM and Kristin Hersh were both born w/in a few months of me and I have been real into both over the last year or two.

The overdose on bass production could make a shitty record player sound ok

Aka the Peter Hook Effect

Probably the easiest Pavement album for me to enjoy, but I think the first four are all great and even like the fifth as an uneven but still fairly commendable and enjoyable listen. (Bob recently said TT should've been an EP, and he's not wrong - it could've been rock solid and a great one.) I guess it's like the Velvet Underground or Big Star where there aren't many LP's and I don't want to choose favorites because they're all pretty unique and great in their own way.

Terror Twilight is a fantastic album and so is CRCR.

Been interesting listening to the Godrich alternative sequence of TT

I didn't dig TT until hearing the Godrich sequence, fwiw

“speak see remember” should be destroyed but the rest of TT is very good

^^no way, the jammy part at the end saves it

Westing>WZ>S&E>CRCR>BTC>TT

This is right tho I wouldn't call Westing an album per se, and I would put it somewhere between CR and TT

jammy part at the end of "Speak See Remember" is one of the handful of highlights on an otherwise "just OK" album!

oh wait, i misread that as if brimstead was saying that specific part should be destroyed ... i agree that the first 2:50 of "SSR" is blah, but the last 90 seconds of it are one of the few times on TT you actually hear the energy of the first three albums come to the surface.

I've never quite understood why some fans rate Westing so highly... it's a solid EP, they're all good songs, but beyond that...(?)

it's obviously not as good as the first three official albums but it sure is fun to hear the band in its embryonic form, hear SM's earliest/noisiest ideas, hear them at their most DIY, imagine them doing this weird-ass shit at Gary's house, etc. no different than hearing any other great band's early stuff.

but imo if you're inclined to include Westing in an album ranking, you need to strip it back to the individual EPs on their own, which means you also have to consider Watery Domestic.

Oh wait, I'm totally messed up... I mean the EP that came after S&E, what's it called?

(Yeah, Westing is great, but I wouldn't "rank" it among their albums, it's kind of its own thing)

Watery, Domestic is the EP I meant