ticket ballot is open for four nights of them playing Disintegration at the Sydney Opera House btw
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link
Really is awful news about Anderson. Hoping Robert mentions him at the HoF ceremony for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
So, so sad.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link
Aw no, absolutely shit news. The most underrated of all the Cure drummers.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 21 February 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link
this is horrible news, didn't know or realize that he also played druns on The Glove album.
― Bee OK, Friday, 22 February 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link
Such horrible news. I always enjoyed listening to live performances from their 1984 tour and his drumming was a big part of that.
Coincidentally, according to this Chain of Flowers post, Andy Anderson, Phil Thornalley, and Matthieu Hartley will not be inducted into the Hall of Fame as former members of the Cure.
― Ex Slacker, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:54 (five years ago) link
That's just bullshit. They played on records and were touring members.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link
Agreed. It feels wrong to me to not induct the rhythm section that played on 'The Lovecats' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 07:19 (five years ago) link
It's bullshit if they leave 'em out but let Reeves in, who has played over a hundred shows now but only done three tours in seven years as a member, and never been contracted to play on a Cure record (I think? since Wrong Number was recorded by Cogasm)
otherwise, ehh, don't the Hall make inexplicable line calls about who's admissible every year?
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 07:37 (five years ago) link
Yeah they have some weird standards in that regard.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
Sadly, Andy Anderson has now passed on.
https://www.post-punk.com/former-drummer-for-the-cure-andy-anderson-has-passed-away/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
Just saw this on Twitter. Holy shit
― Duke, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
It's with a heavy heart, I have to report the passing of a Cure brother.Andy Anderson was A true gentleman and a great musician with a wicked sense of humor which he kept until the end, a testament to his beautiful spirit on the last journey. We are blessed to have known him.— Lol Tolhurst (@LolTolhurst) February 26, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
Best Cure drummer, I just saw a clip of a show from the early 90s where they were playing music from his era and wow I missed him.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:54 (five years ago) link
The world just got a lot less cool.
Andy🤜🏻🤛🏿Andy
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
this is horrible news, RIP.
going to have to play The Top tomorrow.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
My favourite Andy momentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFCNikO5TmAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8uz2e7fskhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgc3fgh27c
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link
So sad.
The Top was the Cure album I ignored the most when I was a teenager as to young me it sounded like a band that had lost its way a bit - like it crawled out of the darkness, made a couple of great pop songs and didn't know what to do about it. Over the years it has grown and grown on me and the drumming was a big part of that.
RIP Andy
(have to disagree with Matthew about "One Hundred Years" on Concert though. Andy never quite nails the crushing oppressive magnificence of Lol's studio effort - for me it's Lol's finest moment as a Cure musician)
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 09:04 (five years ago) link
I agree the studio version crushes (altho I have a lingering suspicion it’s not all Lol) but that Concert version is like a cruise missile
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 11:22 (five years ago) link
Well it's a drum machine in studio - part of why it didnt work live for a while
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 11:44 (five years ago) link
They were on fire in '84, the London performances that some of the Concert tracks were taken from are all time.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link
Thanks, thought I was nuts for thinking that. Those 84 shows are wonderful.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link
Recordings can be found here, if you scroll down about two-thirds of the way.
http://cureforall.eklablog.com/1984-c215966
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link
💙from pearl thompson's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BuXUxlZn5qE💙
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
This is heartbreaking, this concert was posted by Andy Anderson himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoqxwFyTywI
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link
just finished watching that full concert. not sure if Andy is my favorite Cure drummer but he was good. back to the concert, it is like an end of an era concert. they, of course, recorded The Head on the Door next and it changed the Cure forever. it was their second phase, i count Three Imaginary Boys as the first phase, and they were going in a full pop direction after The Top album. the Cure have always been a fantastic live band and this concert is special.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 28 February 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
My take on Cure drummers - Lol: there for the camaraderie, great at the minimal, atmospheric beats early Cure required; Andy: along with Phil, helped Robert break his impasse and move into pop, powerful drummer whose style was an addition but didn't quite gel; Boris: perfect Cure drummer, creative, deft, deceptively technical; Jason: has been there longer than anyone else.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 February 2019 02:15 (five years ago) link
RIP Andy, I didn't understand the Top until I was older but I listened to Concert about two thousand times.
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove? That is pretty awesome.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 28 February 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
I tend to think of the Cure as having four different eras, each one neatly marked by each drummer: Early Years (Lol), The Lost Weekend (Andy), Classic Era (Boris), and Late Period (Jason).
― Ex Slacker, Thursday, 28 February 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove? That is pretty awesome.whaaaaaat
The Glove is one of my favorites, RIP Andy
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove?
he did not fuck about, my friend.👍🏻
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA-ewhvs2Q
― MaresNest, Saturday, 16 March 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link
http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/341782/we-ve-always-rejected-the-convention-says-the-cure-frontman-robert-smith
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:23 (five years ago) link
So, the 4:14 Scream idea sounds like it's been canned in favour of a whole new album.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
what an unexpected development
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:35 (five years ago) link
jeez guys just release the deluxe edition of Wish already
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link
But if they do that, what else is there to look forward to, really?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link
A blu-ray release of the Cure in Orange, death
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link
otm, probably.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link
I just hope that any new stuff doesn't sound as terrible production-wise as the last one. The crap production on 4:13 Dream was doubly irritating as it spoiled some of - IMO - the bands best material for years.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
ask yourself, what was the last cure record with good production
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
The last Cure album with production I couldn't fault from end-to-end was Wish. I also think that Wild Mood Swings mostly sounds good even if the material isn't their strongest. The mix on Bloodflowers is too cluttered, and Ross Robinson proved himself unsuitable for the band (as they were at the time of recording) on the self-titled...
...but the sound on 4:13 Dream is a different level of bad. Badly engineered (the muffled drum sound!), badly mixed (whoever EQ'd and balanced the levels was fucking deaf, I swear) and on top of it badly mastered.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah. OTM on all of this. I believe RS to be the main culprit for the production job (and his overall attitude that louder is always better). So I have only mild curiosity for a potential new record (I’ll believe it when I see it).
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link
(and his overall attitude that louder is always better)
This was fine when his ears worked: contrast the "mixed to play loud so turn it up" Disintegration vs the Disintegration/Entreat remaster.
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link
I was listening to some podcast defending Bob Rock's production of "St. Anger," not saying it was good but basically saying that Metallica was a huge superstar act with tons of power and endless resources who could probably have gotten any producer they wanted, and therefore that the only way the album could end up sounding like it did was because the band wanted it that way. Which is to say, yeah, if a Cure album sounds bad, blame Robert Smith.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link
Wish really is an incredible sounding album, some of the best dreamy guitar sounds of the 90s
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
i love wish. it brings back memories. the last cure album i have any relation to whatsoever.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
If only I'd thought of the right words... https://t.co/GGJC6Ujt0a— Jake Rudh (@JakeRudh) March 31, 2019
― rip van wanko, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:09 (five years ago) link
LOL
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link
ROBERT
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:34 (five years ago) link