I don't why anyone ever thought "Tilt" was abrasive or difficult.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
I mean some parts are kinda? And the subject matter is often chilling. It’s kinda exactly what the titles tilt and drift suggest - the guy who made climate of Hunter and nite flights wandering further out
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
Yes, I can only assume a lot of the people who were surprised with it hadn't heard Nite Flights and Climate of Hunter.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Der Spiegel is reporting cancer, but does so at the end of an idiotic "golly gee, shame he went crazy after No Regrets and produced nothing anyone can listen to" article, so...
― Three Word Username, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
when tilt came out it was abrasive and difficult
the goal posts moved after that
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
it is absolutely a more harrowing sound world than nite flights or climate, come on now
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
Harrowing? I don't find it harrowing.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link
and do not overlook the two long tracks scott wrote and arranged for Ute Lemper on her Punishing Kiss album - they are the way station between tilt and drift.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon)
I need to get on this!
― emil.y, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
you are in for a treat emil.y - they add up to the length of a decent size EP (tracks are "Scope J" and "Lullaby')
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link
Where do the sewers go? They gotta go somewhere
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
i guess the farmer in the city could be harrowing?
― kolarov spring (NickB), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
Lol
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
Put on Scope J just now. This is so good. May very well be the best Scott Walker song.
― silverfish, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
Her lullaby is so much better than the version on soused as well
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
LOL (xxp) Ignore me, I don't find any music harrowing.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
Apparently, when "Tilt" was coming out, Fontana records held a listening do and invited notable celeb Scott fans (e.g. Marc Almond) but when it came on, most of them fled!
― Mark G, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link
Try Alfred Schnittke's 4th string quartet.
xp
― pomenitul, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link
On the freak zone at the weekend, before the news this morning, maconie went from mark hollis solo track into Cossacks Are
― koogs, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
Oh god, I'm only a couple of minutes into 'Scope J'... how have I never listened to this before?
― emil.y, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
Same. Astonishing. Lullaby doesn't seem to be on Spotify
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
Don't forget in the midst of his latter period work he recorded a Bond song for 'The World is Not Enough'. Why they didn't get him in 67 at the peak of his commercial success is a mystery, would have killed doing the theme for 'You Only Live Twice'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCt4O4gJifQ
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
If you go away as I know you mustThere'll be nothing left in this world to trustJust an empty room full of empty spaceLike the empty look I see on your faceAnd I'd have been the shadow of your shadowIf you might have kept me by your side
― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link
RIPwhat a singular artist
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
:( rip
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
Speaking of Bond themes and '67, the Walker Brothers did record the theme song for "Deadlier Than The Male" kind of a 007 knock-off (Bulldog Drummond being the Bond-like hero):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6HSbanREbE
― henry s, Monday, 25 March 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
"It's kind of "jump scare," but the moment where the percussion comes in on "The Cockfighter" always sets me off even when I'm anticipating it. That atmosphere is so cold!"
One track on The Drift is very quiet, and then Donald Duck makes a guest appearance. It's the only time an album has made me jump. I can't remember which track because it's one of those albums I listen to in a single go. I'll look it up on the internet.
It's called The Escape, that's what it's called.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 25 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
On a more serious note, The Guardian's obit repeats the old factoid about Climate of Hunter being the lowest-selling record on Virgin Records. Is that true? It sounds implausible. It got to number sixty and only spent two weeks on the chart, but even accounting for "the long tail" I can't imagine the likes of Chili Charles' 1973 folk-rock obscurity Busy Corner or Comus' second album - from Virgin's early prog period - selling more copies. It had a widespread international release. Also, I'm going to look at Discogs.com and see if people have started selling the LP version of The Drift for £700 yet.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link
that was brought up somewhere else here recently. the album got released in multiple countries and was reissued not long after the initial release so i doubt it was virgin's lowest-selling record.
― visiting, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link
Xposts Lullaby was a bonus track only on the Japanese edition of the Lemper CD. It and Scope J were also both included on the Five Easy Pieces box set
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
RIP
― just another country (snoball), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
Five Easy Pieces does a surprisingly great job of summing up Scott before The Drift with its themed CDs, and it picks up a lot of stray tracks. I believe it makes the Pola X soundtrack redundant for Scott completists, too (ditto for the four Scott tracks from Nite Flights, though I listen to that album whole sometimes anyway).
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
It's the "This Is How You Disappear" disc of the FEP box I've decided to go for this evening.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
I wish I still had that set ☹️
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link
RIP, obv not much to add other than I love his music, especially the later records.
I laughed all over again this morning at those pictures of him with Sunn, there is nothing about his outfit or demeanor that would make you think he was anything other than some weird drone metal dude, he just looks like he's in Sunn
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
wasn't sure if I wanted to talk about this…but…I co-wrote the notes to the first release of any of his music in the U.S. since the 60s: I think Scott I was released stateside in 67 but none of the others were at the time. it's a compilation of his beloved 60s material. I didn't know anything about him until a few years beforehand…but I was gung ho, eager for discerning americans to appreciate this unique artist from Ohio who had taken off to Europe for an ascetic Ingmar Bergman existence, never to look back.
It made next to no impression, and any significant impression as such was negative. Xgau panned it, and it was clear to me that the Scott I-Scott IV shit was repulsive to his generation of critics and listeners, being that the context in which that music was created was light entertainment, Jack Jones, Englebert Humperdinck, the kind of shit that Xgau and his peers would consider to be what right on rock and roll was supposed to demolish, or at least oppose. The way he sang drove Xgau's cohort crazy and they couldn't get past it. And the Other music/WFMU people who were my peers didn't bite then; that would take place in the 00s, when I suspect many of you guys discovered him.
Yet the 60s shit is what the likes of Jarvis and Marc Almond et al repped for in 30th Century Man: I think neither one of those guys likes the Tilt'/Drift era at all.
― veronica moser, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
the compilation was released in 1996.
― veronica moser, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
The Razor and Tie compilation, yes? I deeply appreciated that release, it was what fully opened the door for me to understand his work after referrals from friends and mentions/covers from other artists. I thank you for it.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link
Honestly I never understood the Marc/Jarvis/etc revulsion or at least looking askance at the later work. It's on a very obvious throughline, as obvious as Mark Hollis's in a more compact sense.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
Cope went off him too
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
Weird memory I have is of a Canadian friend I had just before the turn of the century who was a real music nut but to my shock had never heard of Scott Walker. I guess everyone has their blindspots but it made me think maybe there really was a big Atlantic divide still going on with him.
― Alba, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
Looking at the NYT homepage now and no mention of him, so yeah.
― Alba, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link
Not where I grew up but generally, yes.
― suzy, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link
Have a different memory of the impact of that Razor and Tie comp -- it was all over WZBC at the time and that heavy airplay was my introduction to him.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link
i had already found an import of the Boy Child CD by the time the razor & tie comp came along but I agree it was a heroic shot [with a great booklet ;)]
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
Seems really rare in this day and age for a cultural figure to have a death that is breaking news on the BBC page yet registers nothing on the NYT page. And vice versa.
― henry s, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link
I think j cocker likes post-tilt stuff? He performed a song from the drift at that concert and he is the person who came up with the description “blocks of sound” that Walker always used to describe his approach
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
that's a nice suit
that's a swanky suit
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
Ha that’s gwb right?
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link
I think it was Jarvis who guest-reviewed Tilt for Select at the time, and gave it something like "10 stars...or 2 stars...who really knows?!"
― henry s, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link