she's had a very traditional career arc building up little by little over 6-7 years through working, touring, steady releases until signed to a major, tv and festival appearances, placement in tv and commercials, making music videos etc....
she even "broke" on Ellen's show.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
itunes is a small sliver compared to apple
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link
fwiw, on the (US) spotify chart the highest she is currently is #91 with "Truth Hurts," so if the evil algorithms are conspiring they're not doing a very good job of it
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 02:07 (five years ago) link
i've heard "juice" on one of the adult r&b stations here a couple times. (it's #28, down from its peak at 26 but still bulleted, on that format's billboard chart.)
the same station has played an ad for the album plenty of times tho. i noticed the same kind of ad for janelle monae's album when it came out, so i assume that's the kind of thing a label will do for an artist with a new album when their single isn't very far up the airplay charts yet. ("i like that" from janelle's album did end up being a big hit at that format, but not until like 6 months after the album's release.)
― dyl, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:02 (five years ago) link
relatives of mine who aren't big rap fans, are excited by her. The retro aspects and Missie Elliot influence and the singing are likely factors I am guessing
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link
.@Lizzo slayed "Truth Hurts"!! 😍👰🏾 #BETAwards pic.twitter.com/BxtjsgzuWG— BET (@BET) June 24, 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 June 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
her breakthrough hit being a song that is nearly two years old is not something i expected
― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
the power of the Netflix soundtrack bump.
― Roz, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link
i heard “juice” on the iheart pop radio station today - it was no. 2 on their nationwide countdownand she’s playing a secret show sponsored by the other pop station tonight
― maura, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
"new man on the minnesota vikings" is an incredible pop lyric
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
Has anyone else seen a small segment of Black Feminist Twitter getting mad at Lizzo because she trademarked the lyric "I did a DNA test and found out I'm 100% that bitch", which came from a random person's 2017 tweet then got turned into a meme, which is how Lizzo saw it and where she lifted it from (and apparently gave credit back to when asked about it) but didn't give credit back to the woman who originally tweeted it because... Lizzo didn't know this woman existed when she wrote the song?
me, seeing that yet another Black woman ripped the words of a Black woman creative on twitter and leans into defensive gaslighting rather than admitting they made moves to profit from IP they didn’t create: pic.twitter.com/TlxiI5hF5A— ashley yates (@brownblaze) June 25, 2019
For context, before I saw this I also saw the same segment of Twitter dismissing her as Black Music For White People, which IMO is standard "black people being shitty about black people with ties to Minnesota" bullshit
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link
yeah saw that, this thread is the original tweeter I guess (original tweet in second tweet in thread)
I still till this day struggle with the fact that a fat black woman got famous off what I said and I wasn’t that woman looooooooool— whew!na (@MinaLioness) June 25, 2019
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
Great set at Glastonbury which seemed to go down really well with everyone
― groovypanda, Saturday, 29 June 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
top trending artist on Apple Music as of this morning.
― piscesx, Monday, 1 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
Glastonbury set was great but she needs a band behind her really, she's a fantastic live performer but the sound was slightly off, everything that wasn't her voice was too quiet.
― Matt DC, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
getting big enough to see the start of a twitter backlash
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
she's really got the knack for killing it when the spotlight is the greatest, her ceiling is incredible
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
Not as worried for her as I was for chance re backlash, she has songs casual music fans like while chance never had too many crossover moments that sold who he was to regular people
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
What's the gist of the backlash, is it just that one 'stolen' line?
I can confirm that in my world of 30-something white ladies, she has fully crossed over.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
saw a bunch of stuff about how annoying her fanbase is, and the dumb way her perfectly reasonable quote about Future was taken in the most bad faith wayjust feel like she's getting the we stan an icon treatment which comes with an inevitable backlash esp given her audience with non rap fans
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the number of people who called Lizzo, a human person, their spirit animal during the VMAs last night.— Daniel Ralston (@danielralston) August 27, 2019
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
she is getting the weird gross fetishization that famous black women get from white people (i recently heard a 30 something white woman say that she was more into lizzo "as a personality" than her music). not a reason to have a backlash against lizzo obv.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
You know, it really sucks huge ass that Missy is getting dragged into all this shit because the narrative in the 90s was "she's a genius making the most forward thinking pop music around" and not I WANT MY FULL FIGURED QUEEN TO CRUSH MY LARYNX
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, August 29, 2019 1:52 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
ain't this the truth. my wife and my female coworkers have very little in common taste-wise, but reppin Lizzo is definitely on the shortlist.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
When I looked the other day the top comment on Lizzo’s “Truth Hurts" was
This song makes me feel like an independent straight black woman.I'm a dependent gay white boy.
I'm a dependent gay white boy.
Which really neatly sums up the fetishistic gaze behind a lot of her popularity quite nicely
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
Stan culture makes everything kind of annoying like when someone wears a weird outfit and Twitter is like THIS IS ICONIC ABSOLUTE LEGEND and then no one remembers a day later
but in terms of the backlash to Lizzo her approach was her approach before all this I don't see it as calculated
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
🎶 New man on the Minnesota Timberwolves 🎶cc: @KarlTowns @lizzo 😂 pic.twitter.com/FQveOCZA2K— Timberwolves (@Timberwolves) December 9, 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
my wife and my female coworkers have very little in common taste-wise, but reppin Lizzo is definitely on the shortlist.― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, August 29, 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link
thoughts on "rumors"? i have mixed feelings about the production but it's kinda great anyway
― dyl, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
yeeshhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lizzo-dancers-weight-shamed-pressured-touch-nude-performer-lawsuit-rcna95161
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link
not good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link
There's more
https://jezebel.com/lizzos-former-documentary-director-says-she-walked-away-1850699044
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:48 (ten months ago) link
saw a tweet about her forcing her dancers to "eat bananas from each others' poodles" and honestly thought it was a joke
― Indexed, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:51 (ten months ago) link
That’s the part of this I can’t wrap my head around, like when is it okay to pressure someone into eating a coochbanana?
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:09 (ten months ago) link
Beyoncé appeared to leave Lizzo off the list of musical icons she references in her song, “Break My Soul (The Queens Remix).” Videos recorded of the concert show the singer repeating Erykah Badu’s name four times at the time Lizzo would typically be called out. Her name, however, continued to flash on the screen behind Beyoncé.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link
Then again, it could actually be blowback from this: https://pagesix.com/2023/08/01/erykah-badu-shades-beyonce-over-tour-looks-guess-im-everybodys-stylist/
*sigh*
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:16 (ten months ago) link
lizzo basically turned herself into pop ellen degeneres & now is now catching the same backlash, which seems fitting
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:25 (ten months ago) link
Did Ellen make co-workers go to strip clubs and interact with the sex workers?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:27 (ten months ago) link
i mean... would it shock you if she did?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:40 (ten months ago) link
lizzo's whole miss positivity, extreme gregariousness, i'm all about love schtick has struck me as performative and false so I'm glad to hear that my instincts may have been right in this case.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link
tbf she is a performer
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:56 (ten months ago) link
genuinely not looking to pile on her, but wasn't Lizzo the one who doxxed a Postmates driver and sent her fans after them for the mistaken belief that her food was stolen?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:05 (ten months ago) link
yeah that was the first thing i flashed on when i heard about this new stuff
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link
Lizzo’s dance captain, who’s also named in the lawsuit, seems like a real piece of work:
Lizzo’s dance captain, Shirlene Quigley, takes to Instagram following lawsuit that alleges she attempted to convert dancers to Christianity and inappropriately simulated oral sex in front of them:“I just wanted to get on here really quick and say God is so, so good!” pic.twitter.com/c8CuFf0LdF— Pop Crave (@PopCrave) August 2, 2023
― Roz, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
oooooooof
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:55 (ten months ago) link
yeah that's fucking obnoxious. sorry for being the cynical gen xer but whenever anyone is this over the top, my suspicions are raised.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link
…
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:00 (ten months ago) link
can I, once again, ask for a moratorium on the "OMG I SO KNEW THEY WERE BAD NEWS" posts whenever something like this happens. like....congrats, here's a Wendy's gift card.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:01 (ten months ago) link
thanks, i don't eat meat though
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link
i didn't have an opinion on Lizzo at all, i don't know if this is her thing, but i think anyone whose positive attitude inevitably works to draw the attention back to themselves raises red flags. there are a ton of celebs (definitely not all) along these lines who are beloved but whose narcissism is in full bloom at all times.
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link