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with SWAY it's all in the Jagger performance for me, with the guitars placing second. love the mysteriousness of the lyrics and frankly "It's just that demon life has got you in its sway" is for me one of the best single lines of all-time, just as a very particular and strange assessment of tough times.

omar little, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

"sway" is groovy as hell

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

and yeah jagger is p phenomenal on it

THERE MUST BE WAYYYS to fiiind out

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

also weird to hear someone classify it as a ballad, it's basically the same tempo as most songs by the band

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

the singing on sway has a positive effect on my feelings -- esp the "one day i WOKE up to fiiiiiiiiiind/right in the BED next to miiiiiine" part for some reason?! the lyrics are totally banal but the way he sings them gives me an energy i enjoy. idk what else to say about that.

i am a fan of the sloppy guitar solo (here and in general) and the general pace/feel/dare i say "sway' of the song

i do not think of it as a ballad at all -- it's definitely more of a loose jam? idk that this type of song has a name, maybe i just don't know what the name is

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

yes it's the perfect song to be called SWAY, it has a particular doomy sway to it.

omar little, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

first Jagger plays electric rhythm too

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

first time, that is

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekJTcELT2E4

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

"It's just that demon life has got you in its sway"

been listening to this record for 10+ years, never realized he was saying that. as a matter of fact i can barely understand anything being sung on "sway" and for me that is part of the appeal, just kind of a weird murky song where they keep saying "got me in its way" for some reason

budo jeru, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

anyway, re: charlie watts

all i want to say is i'll never forgive him for ruining the otherwise awesome ending of "can't you hear me knocking" by hitting that stupid wimpy crash symbol all by himself after everybody else in the band had stopped in unison.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

i always heard it as" demon wine" and thought that was apt

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link

is it "that demon-life" or "that demon, life"

― difficult listening hour, Monday, March 5, 2018 9:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(it's canonically the former i know but i adore the ambiguity as sung)

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link

I used the Les Paul; Keith doesn't play on that track. Mick Jagger's playing rhythm guitar... (I played the slide part and the solo) at the same time. I put the slide on my little finger so it would still leave the other 3 fingers free to play like they would regularly, and I switched from one to the other. That was played in regular tuning.

- Mick Taylor, 1979

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link

i always thought it was demon-life
demonic life

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

anyway, re: charlie watts

all i want to say is i'll never forgive him for ruining the otherwise awesome ending of "can't you hear me knocking" by hitting that stupid wimpy crash symbol all by himself after everybody else in the band had stopped in unison.

― budo jeru, Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:37 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, I can overlook that. His "toddler whacking upside down pans with wooden spoons" approach to drum accents on 'Sway', however...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

cymbal* ha

budo jeru, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link

just doublechecked that "sway" has good drums, it does

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

It does! I stayed out of the discussion above but it never fails to surprise me how easily people will dismiss any particular drummer for “ineptitude” or “incompetence”. I have a hard time accepting that a person on a Rolling Stones recording is either of those things. Maybe not your fave but inept? Incompetent? Nah.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link

well you have to admit he's no mike portnoy

j., Thursday, 25 April 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link

I saw some clip of wankers Portney and Paul Gilbert's Beatles cover band, and iirc it was shockingly faithful/tasteful!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

i love Charlie’s drumming on Sway, naysayers are crazy imo

and Sway is def not a ballad, loose jam

Sway is everything l love about this period of the Stones, the loose swagger of the band & Jagger just SELLING the lyrics with this insane delivery that is like, idk, for me it’s like he’s howling at the moon. It’s so cathartic!! Swig straight out of the wine-bottle kinda music. It’s all mood & it’s the BEST.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link

otm

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 01:58 (five years ago) link

love Nicky Hopkins on Sway, too

person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 02:20 (five years ago) link

Jagger just SELLING the lyrics with this insane delivery

otm-- had never connected my love of this song to my dylan superfandom before but i think they're related

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 25 April 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link

LL's transcription--

"one day i WOKE up to fiiiiiiiiiind/right in the BED next to miiiiiine"

--also a clue

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 25 April 2019 02:43 (five years ago) link

CIRCulaaaaar tiiiiiiiiiIIIIIME

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2019 04:55 (five years ago) link

I love that "Sway" has strings...by Paul Buckmaster!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2019 05:46 (five years ago) link

ok then, it doesn't really matter if sway is a ballad or a jam or whatever but i am so much more impressed by the phantastic "can't you hear me knockin'" which definitely is a jam. that killer blues riff which gives me the zz top feel, the amazing saxophone solo, its' jazzy improv vibe, the cool santana guitar sound later on, almost 7 minutes without a second that bores me. it is the best of the early seventies coming together there, just wonderful. i don't really care so much about jagger's singing, somehow i don't hear his voice anymore as it is so ubiquitous as i have heard it so many times. anyone else who prefers knocking to sway?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

i listed CYHMK above Sway on my list upthread. both are better than great.

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link

anyone else who prefers knocking to sway?

Me, by miles!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

VG otm Sway is the Stones doing what they do like no one else

though Moonlight Mile is beautiful and like almost nothing else they did

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

"Moonlight Mile" is Taylor's loveliest moment on a Stones single, and my favorite use of Buckmaster strings.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

Sway is the Stones doing what they do like no one else

even if that was true it would not be a sufficient condition to make it a good song. though i think the whole exile on main street double album is where they are really doing their own thing.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 25 April 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link

Incidentally, a friend gave me the Joel Selvin Altamont book for my birthday and I'm finally getting around to reading it. It had never even occurred to me how removed the Stones were from the rock scene, particularly in America. By 1969 they hadn't played the U.S. in 3 years and were practically broke (the American tour was explicitly to refill their empty coffers), and they were desperate to sort of break back into America, which culminated in the Altamont disaster. Clearly the band came out the other side intact, but having this album start out the new decade didn't hurt. I wonder what might have been if they followed the '60s and Let It Bleed directly with Exile?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link

sway is a great song i am sorry you are having trouble with your hearing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 April 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

There are people who don't like Sway? I'd argue that its #2 placement practically makes the album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link

even if that was true it would not be a sufficient condition to make it a good song. though i think the whole exile on main street double album is where they are really doing their own thing.

― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, April 25, 2019

really no choice but to FP for this. you'll thank me when you sober up.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 25 April 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link

exile’s great and I love it with my whole heart, but it’s the succinctness of Sticky Fingers that appeals to me in my old age

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2019 01:20 (five years ago) link

really no choice but to FP for this. you'll thank me when you sober up.

really? weird that some people cannot accept different opinions. in the early days of ilm there used to be that sentence "a frightening consensus is building up". times have changed. it is still happening all the time but you are not supposed to say it anymore. btw i have had alcoholic beverages lots of times before posting here in the - esp. more distant - past but not yesterday.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 26 April 2019 05:07 (five years ago) link

don’t tuomas me lol

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 April 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link

in the early days of ilm you could bust balls for challops

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 April 2019 05:40 (five years ago) link

weird that some people cannot accept different opinions. in the early days of ilm there used to be that sentence "a frightening consensus is building up". times have changed.

Yup, unfortunately.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 April 2019 07:53 (five years ago) link

Anyhow, I re-listened to this album last night and one thing that struck me about 'Sway' this go-round is how superb the bassline is. Wyman really brings home the goods on that one. Love the strings and vocal performance, too. Watts' drumming gets really ropey at times, particularly in the middle section with several fluffed fills and seemingly forgetting what song he's playing at one point.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 April 2019 07:57 (five years ago) link

this is funny:

The songs on Sticky Fingers varied from the brilliant to the rather average and forgettable. "Sway," which sways on the border between a lazy midtempo number and a ballad, falls into the latter category,

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 26 April 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Cant you hear...
Bitch
Brown sugar
You gotta move
Sway

Everything else

candyman, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

Moonlight mile makes me think they were trying to do a song like Hendrixs may this be love but not matching it.

candyman, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

"Moonlight Mile" is better than any Hendrix song.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

'Moonlight Mile' is amazing but nah.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link

yah

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link


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