PIXIES Poll: The best track on Trompe le Monde

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Interesting how on that letterman performance, it's essentially black francis + paul shaffer's band.
I wonder how that conversation went down... "ok, lovering, if you insist on being on stage, i guess you can stand in the back. here are some maracas."

enochroot, Monday, 29 April 2019 12:37 (five years ago) link

To my understanding, that is how Letterman gigs went down back then. Here's Jellyfish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18nDeuf8ICQ

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 29 April 2019 12:40 (five years ago) link

love the bit on the second subbacultcha chorus where the band stops and frank's still yelling. the timing!

meaulnes, Monday, 29 April 2019 12:52 (five years ago) link

Interesting how long they saved "Subbacultcha" up. I don't think I prefer that 1987 demo with the "D=R*T" chorus embedded in it but it raises unanswerable questions like "would I have liked it more if they'd reworked for it for Surfer Rosa?" LOL

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 29 April 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

Planet of the Brine>Letter to Memphis>Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons is one of my favorite track sequences ever.

― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, April 29, 2019 6:24 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this x 1000000000000000000000000000

mizzell, Monday, 29 April 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

And the JAMC cover didn't really seem necessary so soon after the original. TBH, I actually really disliked this record the week it was released. The inaudiblity of Deal and BF's increasingly phlegmy vocals didn't help.

It's been mostly enjoyable right now though, after a very long break. "Letter to Memphis" might have been the most pleasing track this time around.

Oh yeah, I like "Letter" a lot. Nice melody. I sort of like the "Head On" cover in the way I can enjoy the not-strictly-necessary covers on early Beatles and Stones albums. Do agree that BF's voice doesn't seem quite as strong; I can't rate this as highly as Doolittle.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 29 April 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

(xposts) I've got to say I'm glad they made 'Distance...' into a separate song, 'Subbacultcha' was never a favourite. This album is so much fun though, always makes me think of the seaside for some reason!

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 29 April 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link

One time literally 10 years ago based on my recollection of where I was living at the time I posted the opening lines of Bird dream as a FB status update and Crut was like Are you OK??? and I had to reassure him I was fine and it was just a Pixies song.

Still AE for me even though I love at least 1/2 of these a lot.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 29 April 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link

I bought this on vinyl when it came out. LPs were already cordoned off to a small section at Newbury Comics Nashua. But I'd gotten the others that way, and wanted to keep the collection consistent. Liked it much much better than Bossanova, but in retrospect, I'd rank the highs equally.

At this point, Pod is probably my favorite thing out of the the Pixies/Breeders/Muses circle.

bendy, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

Was there much of a vinyl-buying audience for Pixies albums in 1991?

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, April 29, 2019 7:25 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Percentage-wise maybe more than for Dire Straits albums, but small absolute numbers, I'd guess.

― dorsalstop, Monday, April 29, 2019 7:34 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I took a deep dive browsing for vinyl on eBay recently, and I was shocked to discover Columbia House made and distributed records up into the early '90s, including editions of Nevermind etc.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

I really enjoy "JEFREY WITH ONE F! JEFREY!" for some reason.

― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 29 April 2019 00:01 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

This was a bit of a rallying cry among all the other dorks & weirdos in my HS.

A few yrs later I was with UMS's old band who were playing a really odd "benefit" (?) in Fargo, ND, anyway for some reason there was an MC, a local high school kid who wore a tux and was super awkward and was intro-ing the bands, which was extra weird cuz there was like 50 people there maybe but so anyway when he got onstage he introduced himself as "Hi I'm Jefrey, with one F", and later on I was "the Pixies reference made me laugh" and his totally stone faced reply was "what?"

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 29 April 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

from the Eric Drew Feldman (ex- Beefheart/Magic Band, Pere Ubu, Residents) wiki page:

Feldman met the Pixies' Frank Black in 1991, when Pere Ubu were touring as the Pixies' opening act, and later played keyboards on the Pixies' Trompe le Monde (1991) and toured with them. He can also be seen in the video for "Alec Eiffel". Eric's brother Jef also played on the song "Space (I Believe In)" from the same record and was the inspiration behind its lyrics.[2]

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

I remember an interview at the time that confessed they were out of songs and needed something to take up the space so wrote a song literally about that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 April 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

And the guitar solo starts with the melody from Bob the Builder.

29 facepalms, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

More from the longbox era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHD7OZMnIUY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 April 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

was reminded of:

#1: how BF used a flanger on vox for this tour
#2: how much the band didn't like each other by this point

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 April 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

I don't think they ever liked each other!

David Lovering always had the best sounding drums, especially his cranked snare.

I was so excited when the "Planet of Sound" CD single was released.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 April 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

Kim's playing on the end of "Bird Dream" is really great (I got new headphones haha).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 April 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

it's just PIXIES, Dennis!!1

rip van wanko, Monday, 29 April 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

i remember that i was disappointed by this album when it came out and didn't buy it. bossanova i got as lp as a birthday present from a friend. together with the blue aeroplanes swagger my first indie records. and i liked bossanova which i found light and sunny quite a bit. bought doolittle and surfer rosa/come on pilgrim on cd shortly afterwards. doolittle has always been my fave. i think i should relisten to trompe le monde, it seems to have aged well.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 29 April 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

I think each of the Pixies albums could be their best, with the exception of Bossanova, which ironically was my favorite for the longest time.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

The best parts of the album are sublime but there are a few songs ("Planet of Sound", "U-Mass", "Palace of the Brine", "Subbacultcha") that just don't do much for me.

Ha, I love all of those songs!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 April 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link

I remember seeing the 'Gouge' documentary in the late 90s, where someone like Dave Grohl presents the idea that only up to Doolittle was considered their classic period which got a big WTF from me at the time.

I wish a scan of Danni Minogue describing Planet Of Sound as "a crock of shit" in Number One magazine would show up somewhere.

PaulTMA, Monday, 29 April 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link

Smash Hits. Enjoy. One page over her own LP is reviewed as slightly better than Electronic's.

dorsalstop, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

"roooooooar"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

:) Scans of pretty much every page of pretty much every issue of Smash Hits here. Found myself preferring Neil Tennant's 1984 singles reviews over sleep at 3am last night.

dorsalstop, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link

wow those Danni reviews are kinda fun/mostly wtf

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link

Living Colour "sounds a bit like Paul Simon"

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

Thanks! Could have sworn it was Number One

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

Did Neil Tennant ever give The Icicle Works a bad review? Ian McNabb charmingly wished death on him on Twitter a few years ago

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Besides, Alfred, I've seen others suggest that the album should have been sequenced differently.

Someone on Spectrum Culture apparently gave it a shot, shortening the album to 11 tracks. I don't think it's entirely an improvement, but opening with "Letter to Memphis" and closing with "Motorway to Roswell" is a pretty great idea. Something close to a swap of Sides A and B (save for "Letter to Memphis" and "Motorway to Roswell" which I'd keep at both ends) may be on the right track.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

It's temping to cut it down to the 10 or 12 best cuts and make like a 25+ minute album as a throwback to some the super-short rock LP's of the '50s. The fact that most of the songs are so short even goes along with the concept.

(Black Francis: “A lot of the arrangements were pretty short, and Gil suggested we lengthen them...I went out, picked up a Buddy Holly record and played him one of the songs, which was about a minute and fourteen seconds. I said: ‘Gil, there you go. It doesn’t get any more classic than this rock n’ roll right here. Look how short these arrangements are.’ He decided not to fight me on that point...") FWIW, the only three Buddy Holly albums released in Holly's lifetime ran for 25:59, 24:35 and 25:06 respectively.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

I absolutely never play the Pixies anymore -- if I ever did; I never warmed to them like I did the Breeders -- but this remains my go-to album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

one of my favorite album endings, actually. "Motorway to Roswell" so devastating that I need a weird coda to let the pressure off.

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Thursday, 29 December 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

(and 2022 has been my year of crying to "Motorway")

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Thursday, 29 December 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link


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