“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:30 (five years ago) link
Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:42 (five years ago) link
so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?
what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:45 (five years ago) link
Hitler was a lesbian.
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link
Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:54 (five years ago) link
Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:55 (five years ago) link
He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (five years ago) link
... and that's no joke btw.
ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:05 (five years ago) link
Charming man
― Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link
TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:09 (five years ago) link
Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....
― calzino, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link
Who asked you?
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:32 (five years ago) link
https://images.eil.com/large_image/THE_SMITHS_ASK%2B-%2BUNIQUE%2BGREEN%2BTINTED%2BSLEEVE-448777b.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 11:36 (five years ago) link
Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party
this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:45 (five years ago) link
Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link
Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics
“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”...At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.
...
At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link
Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link
Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link
I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
omg that dude's channel is ridiculous
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link
long live buff correl
― boobie, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link
Confirmed:
Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (five years ago) link
oh armondpaws
― can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link
"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"
It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link
describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling
― can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link
In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.
want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link
There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
yes, that too
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link
i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link
milkshake on the head surely?
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
a milkshake on the headwell, a nation turns its back and gags
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link
I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.
I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link
Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.
― DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
We Hate It When Our Friends Become SuccessfulYou're the One for Me, FattyEveryone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
Just because you're paranoid...
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
a so-called entertainer
otm
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"
*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*
"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works
If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
and if a champagne bottleexploded in the offices of the guardianto die by your side....
― maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
(To the intro of Speedway)And when you SLAM down the champagne...can you hear the Guardian cheer?All human rights keeping me protected - they don’t apply, don’t applyTo so-called enterTAINers
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
racism can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to
― maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
on the nose I know, but..
― maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
I am glad you started there rather than at "racism is nice but"
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
This is the funniest thing Morrissey has done in years
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
the singer was "too old" on stage
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link
CNN mobile has these two stories very close together and it’s killing me:
https://imgur.com/a/Ss4Jprv
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
^I lol'd
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
Morrissey's tour manager shared emails with me showing a Secret Service official from the Protective Intelligence Division reached out in November 2017 to arrange an intv with the singer after he said he'd kill Donald Trump "for the safety of humanity"2/https://t.co/aZWpUKv8Zu pic.twitter.com/LPClQ7O0RO— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) January 18, 2023
― ufo, Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
don't make me like morrissey again
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link
I know, right???
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
there's a little yin in every yang
― hrep (H.P), Thursday, 19 January 2023 06:02 (one year ago) link
Probably related to Trump's diet rather than his politics
― the billy sherwood of trad jazz (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 January 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link
"bloke thinks he can get away w/ serving McDonald's, not on my watch"
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
Trump is often used by terrible garbage ppl as someone to distance themselves from to convince themselves and perhaps others that they are not actually terrible garbage people.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
He's also exhausted: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/official-manager-statement-regarding-morrissey%E2%80%99s-health-january-26-2024.151949/
― StanM, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:35 (four months ago) link
Zurich is stained.
― Chris L, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:37 (four months ago) link