― danh (danh), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I've been scared to find out what she sounds like (I'm sure I've heard her, but I really genuinely don't remember any particular song or even sound), because of the way Shiina Ringo's early music is said to be similar in some ways, but now I find I kind of like "Ironic."
(Why does everything I listen to all sound like it has doumbeks in it? Is it just me?)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link
So maybe 90s revival critical reassessment time is at hand.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Is this guy playing a Duesenberg guitar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR6mEu5-egA
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this is okay. A couple other songs were just kind of boring.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I like "You Oughta Know." I'm relieved to find out what she sounds like, not embarrassed.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I raise a Zima to the 90s.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
This is wild:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmQXnBPeb0
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
This is amazing.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Memorable as image, sexual politics, lyrics, whatever but as music?
Better as music than any of those other things. I like the rhythm and energy and crescendos and so on. I remember this song, but I can't remember at all whether I liked it at the time.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link
"How about getting off these antibiotics" is the first line of the song, that's wild.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I think "You Oughta Know" reminds me a bit of Neil Young's "Mr. Soul" (in terms of vocal rhythms, not nec. anything else).
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I love "Thank You" so much :)
― Daily Sport Stunna Yasmin Alibhai Brown (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Some of these old Alanis Morissette threads are pretty mean.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
This shit is fucking awesome. So weird that I am only reconnecting performer and music now.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
The only ones I really don't like at all so far are the ballads.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
ILM's poppism in revealed-as-largely-theoretical shockah.
gypsy mothra otm.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(at least at the time he made that post.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
"Hands Clean" is better than you remember.
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I like that one. I guess I wasn't including that. Thinking especially of the ballads with piano.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I wasn't going to say it, but since so many people have put down her looks in comments on ILM, I think she's cute.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
1995 was a peak year for me being out of touch with anything current (musically) in the English-speaking world, so in some ways the mystery is how I even heard some of these songs. (First half of the year was dominated by not being able to breathe through my nose thanks to sinus problems; the second half was when I tried to recover from being an invalid: taking Brazilian dance classes and that sort of thing.)
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
there is no defense for alanis morissette.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 2 May 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link
So wrong.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I like her. I used to watch MTV just to see her videos.
― Band Fag X (u s steel), Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i LOVE head over feet tbh.
― ian, Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, i own jagged little pill on LP. i paid $12 for it.
No idea why Alanis is indefensible. Jagged Little Pill is total classic.
― Mordy, Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7eB8mmZtlA
― Siegbran, Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Jagged Little Pill is total classic
You were so close there I had to fix it.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Now listening to Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie "Baba" is great. So she apparently went to India for a time?
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, as I listen to more of this album I am feeling a little more sympathetic toward the anti-Alanis hostility (though I still think it's way over-generalized). She can be awfully self-righteous about being completely impossible, but it's not as though we don't have to be in a relationship with her. The lyrics here just get totally out of hand as it goes on (not exactly in a linear progression, but as the album moves on), more and more of a straight journal entry sort of sound as others have described her lyrics in general. But the music too is less interesting than on Jagged Little Pill (overall), even though there are some good things here and there. This is all on first listen (and most of this I really don't recognize).
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
her first two albums were THE SHIT when i was depressed during middle school/high school, but her subsequent albums have been a lot mellower, not necessarily sound-wise but personality-wise. instead of lashing-out and rage, she's processing things maturely, which lends this pop-psychology flavor to her lyrics that doesn't excite me very much.
also just in case you're feeling completionist, rudipherous, here's the Thank U b-side called Pollyanna Flower:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug42wnTh2XY
― known glimmervampyr bobby patentleather (reddening), Sunday, 2 May 2010 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks, I like that too (now that I've heard it).
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Don't miss out on "Uninvited," Rudipherous.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 May 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay. I'm still digesting "You Oughta Know." "but you're still alive. . ." I can relate to the viciousness of that.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm finding "Uninvited" a bit tedious. Maybe that was the point.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
just listened to "Thank You", which I had totally forgotten existed. on the one hand, the beat and vocal melody are really nice; but jesus christ, can that woman write some terrible lyrics or what?
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 2 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I think her lyrics are mostly pretty good and quite knowing about their own preciousness.
― Daily Sport Stunna Yasmin Alibhai Brown (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 May 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
revive timed for kentucky derby obv
― controll-s (velko), Sunday, 2 May 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I have to admit the lyrics are a big part of the fun for me in "Thank You," but I'm not simply laughing at them.
I tend to agree with this, especially the second part. I suspect she's more aware of the ridiculous side of her songs than people give her credit for.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 May 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I still would love hear someone sample the opening of Thank You to great effect.
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Monday, 3 May 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The beginning is especially great. Actually, when I heard it I thought I had heard it somewhere else, but I think I was being reminded of something on side two of "Aerial Tal"!
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 3 May 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
iirc UR is also terrific off that record
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Monday, 3 May 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Awful drum machines on everything I've heard from her.
― Moka, Monday, 3 May 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
http://open.spotify.com/track/0Dw9z44gXhplDh5HCWZIxP
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5952403/alanis-morissette-music-leads-to-domestic-abuse-case-in-florida
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
how have i never seen this thread before
― 69, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
"You live you learn, You love you learn, You cry you learn, You lose you learn, You bleed you learn, You scream you learn." You just don't hit your boyfriend in the face with a plate. But, you learn.
^ lol @ this
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link