grime in 2004

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2-tekz, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link

NICE, but I like Flo Dan. Does that make me an indie kid?

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i think only indie kids can really think marga man is good or deserved a place on dizzee's or anyones album.

splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Marga Man alright.

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

He is a foil, a counterpoint.

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

he is a fool! never mind him being a counterpoint. that voice is just horrid. he should replace someone in big brovaz.

splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

R.U.F.F.!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's Shark Major nowadays?

Seth, Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm scared of any of them/not some of them/not none of them/not one of them/the boogey man...

martin (martin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

also suprisingly B-Live has made a move in grime. check the audio vocal of Wiley's Fire Hydrant that Cameo has been playing on 1Xtra...

martin (martin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

fire hydrant is incredible.

DVD (dickvandyke), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

ohmydayz did anyone else in London hear roll deep back on rinse last night?

karnage, wiley, stratchy, trim. wiley was so happy! joking, taking the pee. scratchy rhyming about dinosaurs. trim's rhymes are getting so observant too. karnage playing so many dubs, so much warm yet innovative vocal stuff.

martin (martin), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

no i bloody missed it! you didnt tape it by any chance did you martin clark?!?! ;)

DVD (dickvandyke), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i did minidisc it, as it happens :)
but i dont know an easy way to convert it into other formats. minidisc->Logic Audio->CD is looooong

martin (martin), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i know we dont know each other but if there's any way you could copy it onto a minidisc or something, i would be hugely appreciative. i would trade something with you to make it fair, of course. whaddya say?

DVD (dickvandyke), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

erm i hear your plea but i think you'd need to by me a new hard drive as an hour of audio is more memory than i have space..

martin (martin), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought you had it on MD. didnt think that was too hard to copy. but not to worry, ill try and get it another way.

DVD (dickvandyke), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, so... this track:

Ruff Sqwad - "R.U.F.F."

or possibly

Ruff Squad - "R U Double F"

or some variation of those

is one of my top ten singles of the year! Paul Scifisoul hooked me up with it, but I need a higher quality or real copy, preferably with an instrumental too. The synth line is INSANE!!! I *love* it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 16 October 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

and a vinyl for me please... ! )

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 16 October 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer, "R.U.F.F." is about a year and a half old. I talked about it here. I wrote about it at the bottom of this post.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It was my favourite grime track of last year though so you've got good taste!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"R.U.F.F." is about a year and a half old.

Wow! I haven't been able to find the vinyl on the web so I just assumed it was new. That melody is really amazing - does it come from something else? It's exotic in an east-Asian way.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 16 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer, it was Tim's championing of it that led to me downloading and including on that Grime comp. never seen the vinyl for sale.

anyone ever put together a Ruff Sqwad comp? if so, tracklist please?

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 16 October 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

tings in boots
r.u.f.f
raw 2 da core
everything down
pied piper (u pick a
pied piper skepta rmx (instr)
anna
tinchy - screwface http://www.rwdmag.com/music_player/?id=521
lethal injection (instr)
root (instr)
misty cold (instr)
ur love feels (instr)

off the top of the dome. i left off 'move' and the offical rmxs cos they suck, put on tinchy on icerink if u want. obv mirc, dc++ and radio spods might be better equipped 4 this

candour floss (mwah), Saturday, 16 October 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

(u pick a vocal) i mean. also i think theres another ok riddim on the back of one of 'move' or 'ur love' but i wasnt overly wow about it

spencer will also like j-sweet/sarah j/d double - burning up form cameo's last show

candour floss (mwah), Saturday, 16 October 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"These Days", it's the best Rapid misty cold ice palace riddim and no one ever reps for it. Plus amazing lyrics.

2tekz, Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of like on Zelda when you step in front of the icy cold breath dragon thing and turn into a big block of ice.

HEY DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DANNY WEED? HIS OLD STUFF IS STILL REALLY THE BEST MUSIC EVER MADE.

2tekz, Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

ahhh yeah my bad. it's no way the best tho! oh hey is 'these days' is the vocal of root? it sounds familiar but my room is way too messy to check

candour floss (mwah), Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

*Listening now to the Cameo show* It's a good track, but the "soul" in the vocal is maybe a little too 'earnest'? That Cage track that kicks it off is really great - although he does a couple annoying lyric shoe-horns that I'm not so into. I hope there's a dub. The Delinquent track is interesting as it's almost a Craig David 2-step throwback.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

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candour floss (mwah), Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like i've been claiming the collipark slow jamz is better than the og!

candour floss (mwah), Saturday, 16 October 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i have the new album from some midlands crew called class a, whos album is called life of grime. cant say its too hot though.

DVD (dickvandyke), Saturday, 16 October 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

well theres a new sort of in depth feature on grime in the new issue of mojo magazine, using dizzee as one of the main focuses. its a cool enough piece, not really saying all that much really that we havent heard before, or any new insights as such, but its cool enough to see it in mojo (even if their review of showtime was eloquent yet completely vague and content-less).

DVD (dickvandyke), Saturday, 16 October 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i have a few quick q's as its almost the end of the year:

how do people in the scene compare 2004 to 2003? better/worse/different in what way?

have there been any minor/major general changes in the music/scene?

is the scene in danger of becoming too hip hoppy or MC-based?

DVD (dickvandyke), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

is the scene in danger of becoming too hip hoppy or MC-based?

I'd say that happened in 2001.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

POX Grime in 2004 please

Deitrich Neinster, Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Spencer, "R.U.F.F." is about a year and a half old. I talked about it here. I wrote about it at the bottom of this post."

Not that it matters now, but when I wrote this I intended to use the second sentence to link to my post and then wrote the third by mistake. Just in case Spencer thought I was getting snitchy about him not being on the ball (and credit where credit's due, it was Luka who got me onto that track).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"i feel like i've been claiming the collipark slow jamz is better than the og! "

You feel correct and vindictated?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

HEY I HAVE SOME GRIME MP3S AM I COOL

2TEKZ, Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

What the, is Skepta spitting now or has Jim Jones got an English accent?

2tekz, Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Just in case Spencer thought I was getting snitchy about him not being on the ball

Not at all! And I like the "shivery oscillator synth" description. Actually with grime, I always feel like release dates etc are a little, uh, murky. I'm never sure if I'm way ahead or way behind on any particular track.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 17 October 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Martin, what's going on with Deuce? I'd like to subscribe but they only seem to have put out about three issues in the last year or so. And I can't ever find it in any shops - is it only distributed in London?

Jason J, Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

www.deucemag.com

or co.uk

rolldeep are on rinse fm right now.....

splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link

......... and they are MCing over some GREAT dubs, which would be greater if i knew what they were. n/m.

splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish someone released an album of radio shows like this. sometimes i think they capture the energy of what grime is all about better than the actual proper songs.

DVD (dickvandyke), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG, wiley sounds so ill over this beat dizzee used on showtime (i think its the hype talk beat, cant remember the name, ive heard kano kill it too).

splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I looked on the Deuce site... it's kind of sparse, though, and there's only been three issues since the N.A.S.T.Y one I have (dated July 2003). I'd like to subscribe but it seems a bit sketchy for a so-called bi-monthly, that's all.

Class A are from Leicester, they put out a couple of 12"s on Platinum Projects (XL imprint) early last year. They were using Playstation back then but I don't think they are anymore.

Jason J, Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

deuce had a lot of back issues on the site last time i looked. 3.50 per issue though.

class a, to *me* at least, from the first few tracks of their album i heard, dont sound all that much like the grime stuff coming out of london right now. they seem to remind me more of early proto-grime and stuff like that. only heard a few songs though, which i skipped through cos it didnt do much for me. bit odd how XL didnt want wiley but want these guys.

splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

B-Live's "Merkers" might have some older sonic tricks in the beat that Wiley has flipped before, but the raps are serious. Dude comes off on the flow tip. I hear it's blowing up pretty big on the streets too, so that's cool.

Other track I'm feeling, "No Help, No Handouts" by Unorthodox. A killer female emcee and a couple dudes over some dark Castlevania ambience, it's a winning combination. Big tune.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Deuce is due to relaunch this year, with the mighty chantelle fiddy as editor.

back issues are worth chasing, esp the one with the Jammer mix CD. 20-30 tracks mixed; they still sound fresh.

the Run the Road comp has a new track from Unorthadox's Nolay (the killer female emcee, mentioned above). look out for that this nov.

also re Danny Weed, he produced the Roll Deep track on Run the Road. it features this chicago-house-esque piano loop plus trim, wiley n co. mmm...

martin (martin), Monday, 18 October 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link


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