And as I said on that other thread, we'll do the 00's as a full albums and tracks ballot poll once this series is done― imago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:23
― imago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:23
Are you in the big ballot poll queue? They wont take kindly if you jump their queue and might not participate. That's why the 60s poll stirmonster and I were going to do never happened.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
i haven't heard most of these records― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:36
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:36
you should try some
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
Sounds cool!
Thanks, I'll get started on it as soon as I can, hopefully by the end of the month.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
b is for Bethlehem where jesus was a fisherman.i know he starts and finishes men but I don't know why!
― devvvine, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
Autoditacker is the only one of these I still listen today, but I'm gonna vote for Modest Mouse, cuz that album really did mean a lot to me on college. Lots of brilliant music and Isaac Brock was the Drunk Asshole King, which is kind of endearing when you're 20. Plus they reminded me a lot of Can which I was way into back then. Granted by this time "Float On" had already come out so Modest Mouse was the sort of band that played well anywhere...I probably heard them more than anything else for a couple years.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
What the UK press was covering in 1997
1997 NME Albums
1. Spiritualized – Ladies And Gentleman We Are Floating In Space2. Radiohead – Ok Computer3. The Verve – Urban Hymns4. Primal Scream – Vanishing Point5. Super Furry Animals – Radiator6. Cornershop – When I Was Born For The 7th Time7. Mogwai – Mogwai Young Team8. Teenage Fanclub – Songs From Northern Britain9. Bentley Rhythm Ace – Bentley Rhythm Ace10. Supergrass – In It For The Money11. Daft Punk – Homework12. The Chemical Brothers – Dig Your Own Hole13. Blur – Blur14. The Charlatans – Tellin’ Stories15. Bjork – Homogenic16. Death In Vegas – Dead Elvis17. Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land18. Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever19. Yo La Tengo – I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One20. Gravediggaz – The Pick, The Sickle And The Shovel21. Black Grape – Stupid Stupid Stupid22. The Divine Comedy – A Short Album About Love23. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – The Boatman’s Call24. Pavement – Brighten In The Corners25. Oasis – Be Here Now26. Stereolab – Dots And Loops27. Grandaddy – Under The Western Freeway28. Roni Size & Reprazent – New Forms29. Travis – Good Feeling30. Mick Head Introducing The Strands – The Magical World Of The Strands31. Gorky’s Zygotic Mynci – Barafundle32. Portishead – Portishead33. Eels – Beautiful Freak34. Squarepusher – Hard Normal Daddy35. Jonathan Fire Eater – Tremble Under Boom Lights36. Prolapse – The Italian Flag37. Wilco – Being There38. Missy ‘Misdemeanor’ Elliot – Supa Dupa Fly39. Photek – Modus Operandi40. David Holmes – Lets Get Killed41. Echo And The Bunnymen – Evergreen42. Finley Quaye – Maverick A Strike43. Tindersticks – Curtains44. Manson – Attack Of They Grey Lantern45. Scarfo – Luxury Plane Crash46. Foo Fighters – The Colour And The Shape47. Howie B – Turn The Dark Off48. Robert Wyatt – Shleep49. Silver Sun – Silver Sun50. The Wannadies – Bagsy Me
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
Melody Maker End Of Year Critic Lists - 1997
Albums
1. The Verve – Urban Hymns2. Radiohead – Ok Computer3. Super Furry Animals – Radiator4. The Charlatans – Tellin’ Stories5. Spiritualized – Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space6. Black Grape – Stupid Stupid Stupid7. Roni Size – New Forms8. Oasis – Be Here Now9. Supergrass – In It For The Money10. Kenickie – At The Club11. Cornershop – When I Was Born For The 7th Time12. Mansun – Attack Of The Grey Lantern13. Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land14. Blur – Blur15. Echo And The Bunneymen – Evergreen16. Primal Scream – Vanishing Point17. Daft Punk – Homework18. Portishead – Portishead19. Travis – Good Feeling20. Orlando – Passive Soul21. Foo Fighters – The Colour And The Shape22. Chemical Brothers – Dig Your Own Hole23. Bentley Rhythm Ace – Bentley Rhythm Ace24. David Holmes – Let’s Get Killed25. Stereophonics – Word Gets Around26. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – The Boatman’s Call27. Geneva – Further28. Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever29. Finley Quaye – Maverick A Strike30. Laika – Sounds Of The Satellites31. Death In Vegas – Dead Elvis32. Santa Cruz – Way Out33. Bjork – Homogenic34. Tindersticks – Curtains35. My Life Story – The Golden Mile36. Hurricane #1 – Hurricane # 137. Spice Girls – Spice World38. Stereolab – Dots And Loops39. The Divine Comedy – A Short Album About Love40. Mogwai – Mogwai Young Team41. Teenage Fanclub – Songs From Northern Britain42. Primal Scream – Echo Deck43. Eels – Beautiful Freak44. Silver Sun – Silver Sun45. Erykah Badu – Baduism46. Labradford – Me Media Naranjo47. Republica – Republica48. Billy Mackenzie – Beyond The Sun49. Mono – Formica Blues50. Hanson – Middle Of Nowhere
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
Jonathan Fire Eater – Tremble Under Boom Lights is a good little album, hardly earth shattering but pretty rocking
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
This is the best year for albums I've ever experienced in the 30+ years of being an active record buyer.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
Select End Of Year Lists Albums 1997
1. Radiohead – OK Computer2. Spiritualized – Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space3. Primal Scream – Vanishing Point4. The Verve – Urban Hymns5. Cornershop – When I Was Born For The 7th Time6. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – The Boatman’s Call7. Pavement – Brighten In The Corners8. Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land9. Blur – Blur10. Etienne De Crecy – Super Discount11. The Chemical Brothers – Dig Your Own Hole12. Supergrass – In It For The Money13. Stereolab – Dots And Loops14. Oasis – Be Here Now15. Edwin Collins I’m Not Following You16. Roni Size Reprazent – New Forms17. Bentley Rhythm Ace – Bentley Rhythm Ace18. Travis – Good Feeling19. Daft Punk – Homework20. Teenage Fanclub – Songs From Northern Britain21. David Holms – Let’s Get Killed22. Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever23. Super Furry Animals – Radiator24. Death In Vegas – Dead Elvis25. Salaryman – Salaryman26. Various – Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas27. Missy ‘Misdemeanour – Supa Dupa Fly28. Eels – Beautiful Freak29. Jimi Tenor – Intervision30. The Charlatans – Tellin’ Stories
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
This is the best year for albums I've ever experienced in the 30+ years of being an active record buyer.― kornrulez6969,
― kornrulez6969,
at last someone is happy!
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
I must admit though at the time it didn't feel great and a lot of the albums on this list i heard in the few years after, esp once napster hit.
Mainly because it was hard to get US import stuff and even then only after a trip into Glasgow and i got lucky finding it
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
Its funny seeing both those Oasis and The Prodigy albums highly placed in those lists. Easily their worst albums up to that point. "Urban Hymns" hasnt held up well either.
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
IMO the big omission on both these is The Mollusk by Ween, which I think has held up incredibly well over the years. That and Fantasma are my 2 favorites from this year.
in retrospect this was a pretty insane year for a lot of genres. every year from '95 to '98 has a dozen or so albums I still love.
some other 1997 albums I've rated highly
BT - ESCM: I would guess this one sounds a bit dated today but BT put so much effort into his production that I bet it's still a good listen. Unfortunately all that trance stuff has sort of been swept away lately...I thought this album was a big deal at the time but you don't really hear it mentioned anymore.
IQ - Subterranea: in my opinion IQ is the best neo-prog band (not saying much, I know) and this is sort of their attempt to do a Lamb-style concept album. felt a bit monochrome on the first few listens but I'm slowly starting to really like it
Motorpsycho - Angels & Daemons at Play: much like Autechre there's pretty much always gonna be a Motorpsycho album somewhere on my list
P-Model - Enola: Here's a group that just got more and more bonkers over time. Big computer panic atmosphere about this one that sounds very rooted in the late 90s but I think they nailed the industrial technopop sound. The track "Layer Green" still sounds incrediblehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ-ILbhRyig
Denki Groove - A: so long as we're talking big name electronic albums by the likes of Daft Punk, The Chemical Bros., The Prodigy, etc., I think this deserves a mention, it's sort of Japan's answer to all that and beyond. they managed a major hit simply by adding lyrics to Silvetti's "Spring Rain" which I still think is a stroke of genius.
Daler Mehndi - Ho Jayegi Balle Balle: apparently I rated this 4.5 on RYM!?? I don't remember why, probably just for this trackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=powwfM5vwPA
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
"Urban Hymns" hasnt held up well either
'Catching the Butterfly' tho.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
Motorpsycho - Angels & Daemons at Play
Good call, great album. Idk if this is correct, but I've the feeling Motorpsycho - at the time - was already big in some parts of Europe, but not the UK?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
unknown here, dont think ive ever knowingly heard them
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
lonesome crowded west
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
I think i first heard that in 1998 as I read about it in an american import mag and found it in hmv in Glasgow
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
I am in the bug ballot queue yes. I've been saying I'll do this for the last year. Get on with 1998 and 1999, then it'll be time!
― imago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
Big ballot, even
― imago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
Moths Woodlice Butterflies Beetles etc
Its going to be a different system to your 90s poll, yes?
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it'll be the traditional EOY format
― imago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
How many of these albums have you heard?
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
that Ulver album is the only thing in my collection I'm actually a bit scared to listen to, it's like its specifically designed to give you tinnitus
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
yeah it's wonderful, prob gonna be my vote
― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
Emperor. Easily
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
Substrata has not aged one day. So that’s my pick
― the article don, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
I recommended that one to Mike as I was surprised he didn't know it.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
I've listened to it since. Its pretty good but I dont know what elevates it over countless other competently decent ambient albums.
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
I thought it was one of the best
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
Village Voice - Pazz & Jop Lists
Albums - 1997
1. Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind Columbia2. Radiohead - Ok Computer Capitol3. Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time Luaka Bop/Warner Bros.4. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out Kill Rock Stars5. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One Matador6. Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly The Gold Mind, Inc./Eastwest7. Erykah Badu - Baduizm Universal8. Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister The Enclave9. Bjork - Homogenic Elektra10. Pavement - Brighten The Corners Matador11. Steve Earle - El Corazon Warner Bros.12. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death Bad Boy13. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole Astralwerks14. Portishead - Portishead Go! Beat/London15. Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms Talkin' Loud/Mercury16. Wyclef Jean Featuring Refugee Allstars - Wyclef Jean Presents The Carnival Featuring Refugee Allstars Ruffhouse/Columbia17. Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space Arista18. The Verve - Urban Hymns Virgin19. Beth Orton - Trailer Park Heavenly20. Elliott Smith - Either/Or Kill Rock Stars21. Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club World Circuit22. Geraldine Fibbers - Butch Virgin23. Whiskey Town Strangers - Almanac Outpost24. Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope Virgin25. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever Loud26. Richard Buckner - Devotion + Doubt Mca27. Ben Folds Five - Whatever And Ever Amen 550 Music28. Stereolab - Dots And Loops Elektra29. Patti Smith - Peace And Noise Arista30. Prodigy -The Fat Of The Land Maverick/Warner Bros.31. U2 - Pop Island32. Built To Spill - Perfect From Now On Warner Bros.33. Ron Sexsmith - Other Songs Interscope34. John Fogerty - Blue Moon Swamp Warner Bros.35. Fiona Apple - Tidal Work36. Daft Punk - Homework Virgin37. Supergrass - In It For The Money Capitol38. Blur - Blur Virgin39. Jayhawks - Sound Of Lies American40. Primal Scream - Vanishing Point Reprise
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
Bad year IMO
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
did you like anything from this year?
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
I stand by my list and think 97 was good. Sure, I had to dig a bit more and didn't hear some albums til much later, but I admit that I was wrong in the actual year to think it was a bad year.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
And I'm hoping to convince Mike too!(he's checking out my list album by album)
I mean I guess its not a terrible year but theres such a noticeable drop in quality from the richness of 91-95
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
Y'er all OLD!
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
No shit!
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
It’s all been downhill since ‘74.
― o. nate, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
I don't really care for anything in this poll or the Pazz & Jop list (and I bought or heard a lot, thought not all, of it). The Daft Punk singles were obv. great, but I could never hang w/"Homework" as an entire album.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
(I like the Pavement album, but even that is my least fave of theirs!)
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Brighten The Corners is great. I saw them on that tour
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 16 August 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
I saw them on that tour too, Bristol Anson Rooms
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 16 August 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link
Did they open with 'Grounded' and play 'Summer Babe'? they did at Glasgow Garage
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 16 August 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link
now that I can't remember, I probably din't know their catalogue well enough back then either. I remember it was a fun show in a not particularly great venue.
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 16 August 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link
was a cracking gig I saw, played pretty much everything i wanted
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
I saw them for the last time in '97. (Apparently this was the setlist, which I seem to recall was pleasant if relatively sedate.) I saw them every time they toured here, starting in 1993, but I haven't come close to voting for Pavement in any of these polls. Maybe I'm just trying to distance myself from high school me.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 16 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
I saw them that year in Boston, with Shudder To Think opening.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
I didn't like big beat much
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
write in for young team.
imagine no even including this seminal scottish album recorded in fucking hamilton ffs
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
young team is in the other poll
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
Best Album on OUR Favourite Albums of......1997 Part Two
I'll still stand by that Bentley Rhythm Ace album, its good fun. Their FSUK mix from '98 is brilliant too.
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
oof, am a dafty.
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
:)
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 17 August 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link
you are from Bothwell tbf ;)
Gonna mention it here as I'm playing the fuck out to it today and it's from 1997...the Oblivians album Play Nine Songs With Mr Quintron. A little ripper. Hellfire and booze, gospel and guitars, sounding like it was recorded on a bootleg in 1958 if they'd discovered punk by then― imago, Friday, August 16, 2019 11:13 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Friday, August 16, 2019 11:13 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Hell yeah, would definitely be my vote if it was on the list.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
never heard of it
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 19 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
Did anyone check out albums they hadn't heard?
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
least amount of votes in these polls by far
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link
A lesser known electronic music cd I really like from '97 is "Contra La Puerta" by Phylr.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link
Not surprised Red Apple Falls only got one vote. I can’t stand how the drummer speeds up on “Inspirational.”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
not too surprised built to spill got so many votes, though i never quite found what i wanted to in that record. some of the songs are really great, 'randy described eternity', and 'velvet waltz' stand up well... but it's way long, cluttered, poorly engineered (maybe since that was the third time around they recorded it), just spirals into meandering and lethargic guitar at times. keep it like a secret was way more cohesive.
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 03:44 (four years ago) link
It felt like kind of a bummer that they followed up There’s Nothing Wrong With Love with such a turgid, ponderous album (and I listened to it a good deal). It’s like they could have gone a few different ways as a band, and they chose the worst one. I guess the obvious joke is that the record teased at the end of Nothing Wrong... would have been preferable...There are other LPs on these 1997 polls that effectively killed my interest in the respective artists (such as Homogenic and I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One). These aren’t even bad albums, but they had the effect of: “ok, I’m done.”
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
Yeah I liked Perfect From Now On at the time, but it sounds more disappointing in hindsight, especially after Keep It Like A Secret came out, which became the one I always reach for.
I've only just finally gotten around to digging into Bardo Pond this year & been liking it but havent got around to Lapsed yet. Lots of stuff I havent heard in this one actually. Didnt get a chance to vote but probably would have gone w/Lambchop.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
I would have probably voted for it if I'd voted. The BtS album I've listened to most. 1997 was largely when I tuned out, though; never listened to most of these.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
perfect from now on is the best BTS
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
Best Album on OUR Favourite Albums of......1998 Part One
Best Album on OUR Favourite Albums of......1998 Part Two
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
Possibly the best BTS:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmE9f-TEutc
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
that video has 488 million views what in the world
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link