wow, wtf. had to stop listening to that lest i get too used to the association.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 23 August 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
ahahaha
― Simon H., Friday, 23 August 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
lol omg
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link
I like these two (and the video) but aren’t there a lot of singles from the new album already (7?) ? Is it gonna be a double or something ? Otherwise there might not be a lot left to discover...
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:53 (five years ago) link
there's been 6 so far ("looking for america" isn't on the album) but the album is 14 tracks and out in a week, so still 8 new tracks
― ufo, Saturday, 24 August 2019 06:00 (five years ago) link
Oh ok, thanks !Almost half out already then... but I like all of them so looking forward to hearing the rest !
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 24 August 2019 06:03 (five years ago) link
The piano outro to « The Greatest » is so warm and lovely.
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:09 (five years ago) link
Sia vs Cat Power vs LDR, each The Greatest is pretty great imo
― world's #1 piece of shit (rip van wanko), Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:14 (five years ago) link
eh fuck it i love you doesn't really come together for me, the greatest is nice. not a patch on the venice bitch/mariners double drop
― devvvine, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link
i like both but i'm not blown away by either like i was with "mariners apartment complex"/"venice bitch"
― ufo, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link
^ agree
― that's not my post, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link
Yup. I guess most people would agree too.But I really like these two latest, "FIILU" maybe a bit more than "The Greatest".
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/the-greatest/
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 26 August 2019 11:37 (five years ago) link
This Billboard story is interesting.
Speaking of haphazard track listings and cover art, this bit is great:
The album title was just something she came up with when she randomly harmonized the name of the American illustrator while recording “Venice Bitch,” though she recognizes that she and Rockwell -- an idealist whose cozy depictions of Boy Scouts and Thanksgiving turkeys graced magazine covers for half the 20th century -- have both explored big questions about the American dream in their work. And then there’s the artwork she has been using for the record’s singles: bizarrely casual iPhone photos that feel a bit tossed-off because, well, they are.“Every time my managers write me, ‘Album art?,’ I’m just like, send!” she cackles, pantomiming taking a selfie. “And they just send the middle-finger emoji back to me.”
“Every time my managers write me, ‘Album art?,’ I’m just like, send!” she cackles, pantomiming taking a selfie. “And they just send the middle-finger emoji back to me.”
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
The title track is great, one of her best songs.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
You're not kidding!
She so gradually became an excellent vocalist that I barely noticed how much she's upped her game in this respect, we're a million miles from the Betty Boop routine on "Off to the Races"
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
Also the mastering job seems unusually dynamic throughout, which I really appreciate
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
has this leaked?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link
it has!
― devvvine, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link
ugh, I wanna hear it, I have super high expectations for this album after the string of excellent singles.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link
the leak I had was 1/2 shitty sounding.
― akm, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
the already released songs are certainly louder.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
New leeak is clean. On first pass I'd only ditch "California". "How to Disappear" is a lovely little standout. I like that her stuff has essentially an inverse relationship with percussion compared to...whoever her peers are supposed to be at this point
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
― akm, Tuesday, August 27, 2019
yes
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link
she def has a better handle on controlling her leaks these days. I spent some time researching how all that other unreleased stuff flowed out and it was pretty messy. I mean, what amounted to like 4 albums worth of demos and outtakes and alternate mixes from the time immediately before and during Born to Die.
― akm, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link
I wonder if she's still planning to do an odds n' sods collection.
OK, I would ditch "Bartender" and "California" but the rest is solid or better. I think this is her best album - wittier, woolier, simultaneously less serious and easier to take seriously.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link
I think this is her best album
will believe it's better than ultraviolence when i hear it but hoping you're right
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
It's not as tight obviously but I think it's a lil more distinctive
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link
I hadn't realized Antonoff worked on almost every song. Dude's a machine.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link
Lastly I have now heard "Looking for America" and it's gorgeous enough that I don't begrudge its overall dopeyness. It deserves to be on the album (though I am aware it was recorded too late for physical consideration)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link
the shitty leak from a week or two ago was sourced from a cassette that shipped really early and is missing "how to disappear" but thanks for the heads up that it leaked in good quality
on first listen it's probably beaten out ultraviolence as her best, my only real complaint is it's a little long. i might cut "doin' time" because it's a little out of place and "bartender" which is one of the weaker tracks but by no means bad. it's all very solid
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link
I actually like having Doin' Time in there, it feels strangely personal
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:40 (five years ago) link
hum better than Ultraviolence ? Glad to hear that and even more excited !"Doin' Time" does sound a little out of place among the already released material but it's a nice light summer song so I guess it will be a kind of bubble in the album.The album will be released this week, right ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:46 (five years ago) link
yeah it's out on the 30th
"venice bitch" is still the clear standout but i especially like "cinnamon girl" and "how to disappear" too
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 09:42 (five years ago) link
for some reason I never really clocked "Hope is a dangerous thing..." much when it first came out but it's fucking me up now
I had fifteen-year dancesChurch basement romances, yeah, I've criedSpilling my guts with the Bowery BumsIs the only love I've ever knownExcept for the stage, which I also call home, when I'm notServin' up God in a burnt coffee pot for the triadHello, it's the most famous woman you know on the iPadCalling from beyond the grave, I just wanna say, "Hi, Dad"
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:32 (five years ago) link
on first pass this album is very good
― devvvine, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link
"hope is a dangerous thing..." works much better as album closer than single
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:46 (five years ago) link
Well, what a difference this new rip makes.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link
totally agree re: hope. it didn't do much for me before but it got me a little choked up when i heard it at the end of the album
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:14 (five years ago) link
Well it was certainly a weird track to release as a single, even without listening to the rest of the album.That said, "Venice Bitch" was also a weird choice if you consider its length, especially in today's 3min tracks culture !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:36 (five years ago) link
Does the album keep the full jam at the end or is it shorter?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:51 (five years ago) link
it's the same length
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link
'hope is a dangerous thing' is one of my favorite songs of hers, the lyrics are incredible.
― akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link
the pre-chorus on fuck it i love you is so lush and beautiful, i just wish the actual hook was stronger
― devvvine, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
Au contraire: "Bartender" boasts some of the album's sharpest lyrics.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
Yeah the pre-chorus on "FIILU" is the best part of the song (but the part right before, in a kinda of staccato, is also great to enhance the rhythmic contrast of the song).
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
Goddamn it Alfred, when you're right, you're right.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
the stutter in that song is such a great choice
― devvvine, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
Yes! Unexpected.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link
The first verse of "Bartender" is like a particularly vicious parody of Joni Mitchell. And just in general this album is a master class in how to record vocals.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link
Yeah on the whole this is her best album. I think the mix on Venice bitch is slightly different but only barely
― akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link