XP I really like the early Ten Years After stuff which seems to have a bebop influence pretty prevalent. First lpm, Undead the live lp are both good and i think the next couple are ok. NOt sure to what extent they went downhill after the Alvin lee at hyperspeed solo thing from the Woodstock film became popular.
THere did seem to be a misguided attempt at authenticity atthe time. people getting off on doing tuneups mid set to show howserioulsy they were taking things, apparently doing that in front of black audiences in places like the Apollo and not realising how badly they were going down for doing it.I al;ways liked the slight dislocation of attempting to put influences in different contexts. Like post-punk picking up on funk influences though not having the full environment to osmose everything from and therebby coming up with something else as it is played in whatever teh new context is. BUt without the ability to organically grow things into a new whatever you wind up with something approaching parody.
― Stevolende, Friday, 23 August 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
Canned Heat’s song in the Woodstock director’s cut is an infuriating slog. I don’t mind when drummers speed up, but when they slow down, it’s deeply irritating. I don’t mind “Goin’ Up The Country” or “On The Road Again,” though.Ten Years After’s Woodstock bit sounds like proto-hardcore to me (apart from the pointless vocal scatting, that is). Lee was a one-trick pony, though: it was a fun trick, but you didn’t wanna hear it for more than five minutes. (But I always loved that someone tossed a watermelon on stage, and Lee was casually all, “oh cool, a watermelon,” and took it with him.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
I think TYA started off a bit more multidimensional. I do like those first couple of records at least. I think Cricklewood Green from 1970 is still OK too. Did think there was more to them than that Woodstock display but could see them getting ossified in that mold and that being the main thing they're picked up on as. Like the shortcut image of them being that when there's more to them like.Probably triggered a number of heavy metal ideas much like Cream not being able to amplify themselves quite how they would have wanted to would.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 24 August 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link
Cream = also landfill fodder
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 August 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link
if alvin lee is a one-trick pony than any blues guitarist is a one-trick pony. but that trick is so powerful that it doesn't matter. take stevie ray vaughan or jack white, they were exremely good in performing that trick. but blues is repetition, that is the way it is. amen.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 24 August 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
The “trick” of Lee’s I was referring to was his sweep-picking/speed/technical facility.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 August 2019 03:41 (four years ago) link
I think he's a lot more nuanced a player on at least the early lps. As I said I could see this one performance as being the one thing certain younger players had seen of him and think it was the main focus and therefore be the thing they picked up on from him. when there was more to his playing if you heard more of it.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 25 August 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link
Mr Veg brought the 10 disc boxset home from the library this afternoon :D :D … figure i can maybe blast it from the stereo through the front window & sit on the lawn under the sprinkler to try & get a sensory effect lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 July 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link
avoid the brown antacid
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 July 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link
i really loved Bert Summers & Tim Hardin - had never heard their stuff before, will def look up more by them
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 July 2022 05:25 (one year ago) link
tim hardin is a joy.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 3 July 2022 07:30 (one year ago) link
I worked on teh O'connell bridge in Dublin 25 years ago next to a vendor who talked about how he had had to deal with hardin in the late 60s when he was seriously strung out. Shame cos the music seems to be so good. I have the 2cd set with his first 2 lps and I think a live set on which is possibly 3.
There's a live recording around with him singing for Can in about 75 I think. Think I may have it on a hard drive somewhere
― Stevolende, Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link
I was in a record store the other day and got to talking with someone about the Jefferson Airplane. He mentioned he’d seen them at Tanglewood in 1969, and I blurted out, “YOU SAW THE WHO!” because they, along with B.B. King, were the openers. This was a few days before the Who and the Airplane played Woodstock, and the guy seemed regretful that he missed Woodstock, but I dunno, experiencing those bands in a decent venue, where you could actually see and hear them, was likely preferable to the conditions at Woodstock.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link
Yes
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link
otm!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
Even the acid was bad at Woodstock (it's in the movie!)
― birdistheword, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
Looking back a bit:
And there are articles scattered throughout 1969-70 issues of Rolling Stone about failed festivals — either because permits didn’t clear, or because hippie scam artists announced an amazing lineup that never showed (and probably wasn’t supposed to show).
Related to which, I happily kicked down for this (successfully funded) effort:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gormanbechard/powder-ridge-music-festival-sex-drugs-no-rock-and-roll/description
I've read about this legendary botch before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_Ridge_Rock_Festival
And look forward to a film on same -- the guy behind this did the really wonderful Grant Hart documentary among other things so I'm looking forward to see what he and his team create.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
Seems like there may have been some early revisionism---for inst, in Buried Alive, her Joplin bio, Myra Friedman said that a lot of people coming back to NYC, like one of her neighbors, reported that conditions were dire, and the Times ran a piece titled "Nightmare in the Catskills"---but then, somehow, there was a turn-around: Times had much nicer follow-ups, maybe with some exclusive interviews? And son enough, Friedman's neighbor was "dancing all over the building," talking about what a groovy historical event it was.
― dow, Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
🚨🚨exciting update:I have acquired the full 38 disc set (or mr veg acquired it for me because he lives to serve) i am go for launch :D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 July 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link
sweetwater here you come...
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 July 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link
i’m going to go find a hot dog, can u watch my blanket? i should be back in (muffled sounds)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
sweetwater but no fever dog :/ (jk)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link
Not waitin 4 Wstock:
Hey kids - that’s the Byrds playing at Jane Fonda’s Fourth of July party 1965 - photo by Dennis Hopper. pic.twitter.com/M5l4E26YTl— Pat Thomas (@PatThomas1964) July 4, 2022
― dow, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link
Glad you got the set there, VG, through whatever means. :-D (My big ol' actual box sets right near my desk.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link
liveblog plz
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
i am almost through to end of sweetwater, “come down from the tower” plea from nanci & the band real talk: i think it might be something to do with 15 years or so going to Bridge School, and a life of attending looser sundry outdoor festivals of all kinds -listening to the full show really hits me in a much different way than i expected. sense of history for the vibe, the stage announcements & all the attendant ephemera that goes with this … and the acts that don’t really exist anymore except in the context of Woodstocki’m just really locked into this groove man ✌🏻
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link
(apparently there was a VH1 biopic about Sweetwater featuring Michelle Williams !)Bert Sommer now - he sounds like a dream from the first bar, really just entranced by this dude, what a voice my god. Kind of a Donovan vibe if its ok to say (voice quality i mean) fun fact: he was in West Coast production of Hair & it is his irl hair on the original show poster so how about that
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
BILL MCGEE PLEASE BRING THE MEDICINE TO THE INFORMATION BOOTH
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link
already annnouncer’s tone is IF YOU FREAKS DONT GET OFF THAT GODDAMN TOWER RIGHT NOW SO HELP ME I WILL TURN THIS CONCERT AROUND I AM NOT KIDDING
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link
[few hours delay for dinner & life stuff]back to the show & Tim Hardin up nextlove his voice so much, seems incredibly talented reading backstory about him & between the addiction/talent he sounds a bit reminiscent of Gram Parsons, he didn’t exactly endear himself to the ppl around him
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link
i will def seek out his albums though, just gorgeous stuff here
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 05:01 (one year ago) link
again with “get off the #^%*! scaffolding”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 05:54 (one year ago) link
update: everyone is now off the scaffolding
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link
FLAT BLUE ACID IS POISONBE COOL
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link
and now Ravi Shankar <3looking forward to hearing this full set!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link
goddamn ravi’s tutorial is cool as hell & so charming. a great way to ensure a captive audience
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 06:33 (one year ago) link
Melanie is a nice surprise for meI only previously knew a couple of her songs from her later heyday around “Brand New Key” but she really has a very strong natural singing voice, and as far as i have heard she could absolutely hold her own w the folkies of the day. v enjoyable set imo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 07:05 (one year ago) link
i feel bad saying this but I do not dig Arlo Guthrie a whole lot he is Not For Me™️tells the worlds longest story about Moses which is about as much fun as listening to an acid-head talk, ymmv with that but ugh no thanks . dude could talk the leg off a table just sitting around drawing breath and here i pause to sleep
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 08:09 (one year ago) link