Is the string interlude a cover of the theme of the movie “attack of the 50 foot woman”? It’d be awesome.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
'the greatest' is a jam
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
she's straight up summoning beth gibbons in the bridge of cinnamon girl
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 30 August 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link
thanks to spotify I now notice the thread title is missing an exclamation mark
― Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
I have some news about the MIA and Quentin Manson murder movie threads, but you might want to sit down
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link
?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 August 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link
On a side note: For a minute there I thought the Folgers actress in “once upon a time in hollywood” was Lana.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 August 2019 05:39 (four years ago) link
sic is just saying there are other threads w titles that need updating for accuracy. I just find the punctuation amusing tbh
now that this is out I can feel a little less weird presenting my preferred sequence, which is much less radical than the changes I'd make to the last two
Norman Fucking RockwellCinnamon GirlDoin' TimeLove SongHow to DisappearFuck It, I Love YouHappiness is a ButterflyMariners Apartment ComplexBartenderVenice BitchLooking for AmericaThe GreatestHope is a dangerous thing...
― Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 05:47 (four years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/pop/8528500/lana-del-rey-best-songs-ranked
Pretty decent ranking, I agree that Hope Is A Dangerous Thing is her best ever tune
― piscesx, Friday, 30 August 2019 06:22 (four years ago) link
in the case of the MIA thread it's that 972 of the posts are about a different artist but yeah
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link
Makes a lot of sense that “dangerous woman” is (rightly) her fav Arianna grande song
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 30 August 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link
I've only started to listen to the album so too early to say anything except that one little problem with already knowing so many songs off the album is that I have to skip the HUGE part between "NFR" and "Love Song" to get to the new stuff !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 August 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link
she's said she's already written a bunch of songs for her next album which she's calling White Hot Forever and hopes to have out sometime next year. she really doesn't stop at all
― ufo, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
which is amusing to me cause in that linked interview you don't get the sense that she's a workaholic at all
otoh this is......concerning
Del Rey also says she’s writing the music for a retelling of the Lewis Carroll novel Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland: “It’s more about the story of the author and the real-life Alice back in Cambridge. I have to learn a lot more about it, but the songs are really sweet.”
― Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
Because she got Cambridge and Oxford mixed up?
― pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
California is a great song, such a great tune and arrangement; and her phrasing really really sounds like Cat Power
― akm, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
I can’t think of too many artists with this short a career with the massive backlog of unreleased recordings; I do t know that she’s a workaholic but she’s amazingly productive and I suspect that songs is just very easy for her. Nice problem to have.
― akm, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
I can’t think of too many artists with this short a career with the massive backlog of unreleased recordings
thug, future, many many other rappers
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
i don't think that sort of huge amount of unreleased recordings is really that unusual for an artist working in the pop world like her - the difference to most is that she's just had a lot of them leak which is how we find out about them in the first place.
― ufo, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
i kind of took a break from her for a while so i hadnt had much exposure to any leaks or even the released singles, so it sound pretty fresh to me. loving it tbh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
i just noticed the very quiet one sided phone conversation that closes out the album. weird touch.
― akm, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
Pretty mesmerizing listen throughout
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
Yeah this is something else. Love the seemingly semi improvised touches throughout and how the vocals are recorded.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
In the hands of another producer there are many parts of this that would have been autotuned (for effect) and I"m grateful that didn't happen.
so the way she sings 'most definitely' in Doin'Time is the cutest thing ever.
― akm, Friday, 30 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
can't decide if this make me miss Los Angeles or never want to go back
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
Speaking of b-sides/extra tracks, this meme directed me to an excellent Ultraviolence bonus track I was unfamiliar with
pic.twitter.com/JoCnEexO7d— Adam Moussa (@adamjmoussa) August 30, 2019
― Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
i can't take 'happiness is a butterfly' out of my head.loving this album.
― Nourry, Saturday, 31 August 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
A Lana Del Rey stan just DM’d me to ask that I give the new album an 8.8 on Pitchfork, so it bears mentioning that I am not reviewing the new Lana Del Rey album for Pitchfork— Larry Fitzmaurice (@lfitzmaurice) August 31, 2019
― j., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
Fair rating imo
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
stans only want justice
― j., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
Lana fans will be ready to riot when it only manages 8.3
― Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
Definite 8.6
― omar little, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
Watch them pull a massive 180 and give it a 7.7
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
I mean iirc that would put it pretty much in line with her previous records
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
It’s very obviously going to get the best score of her career. I’d gamble 8.8-9.0
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 1 September 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link
we should actually have a pitchfork scores betting thread (actual pfork writers banned)
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link
Stunning album. So many great production details and some of her best lyrics. As others have said, her vocals have come a long way. I love some of the things she does with her voice here. How she belts out the chorus to The Greatest, the way she sings "Malibu" in Next American Record, and especially that stutter in Bartender. I can't get that out of my head.
Agree with everyone saying this is her best album. I've enjoyed all of them, but this is the first one where I wouldn't change a thing. Lust For Life and Honeymoon needed trimming, Born To Die should have swapped out Million Dollar Man for Without You and I could never get behind Cruel World as an opener on Ultraviolence.
That Billboard ranking of her songs piscesx posted upthread is an interesting read. Can't really argue with any of the songs in the top 10, but there's some low placements for some of my favourites. The Blackest Day (80), Swan Song (56), Radio (46), Dark Paradise (45), Tomorrow Never Came (43) and Sad Girl (33) would all be much higher on my own list.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
loved Video Games, didn't care for some subsequent singles, liked several subsequent singles, didn't hear various subsequent singles, flipped for Mariners and Venice a year ago, have never listened to a whole Lana album.
this album a) fucking rules and b) feels exactly like a good album by the eight-years-older writer of Video Games
if the production on the vocals here is as different as ppl are noting, that's really heartwarming to read - this captures her weaknesses and idiosyncrasies in a really sensitive and supportive way.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
― Simon H., Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Please let’s not do this, thank you
― winters (josh), Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
Anyway, the cover art is fantastic
― winters (josh), Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
art's fine, "NFR!" sucks
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
Although I'm really loving most of this, I find that the album sags a bit in the middle, between "Love Song" and "California", where songs get kind generic. Maybe I just need to spend more time with those songs. One thing that bugs me with her vocals is a certain tendency, esp on choruses, to shoehorn lyrics which don't really fit the melody (eg "If you come back to California, you should just hit me uuuuuup" or the stuttering on "Bartender").
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 2 September 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link
yeah, I ended up snipping "California" and "Next Best..." in my edit not because they're bad songs but because they don't really add anything to the record texturally or conceptually
― Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link
oh Next Best is one of my favorites
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 2 September 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link
I like it, but it feels like it could have slotted in too easily on one of the previous records (which makes sense as it's been kicking around a while), and imo it drags a bit
― Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
also it's been bugging me, but I finally figured out who "Looking for America" most reminds me of: Marissa Nadler, esp the harmonies near the end
― Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
After spending some time with it over the weekend, I'm still not familiar enough will all the songs but overall it is great (and arguably better than UV indeed).I could maybe do without "Love Song" and "Happiness is a Butterfly" (not that they are bad but they didn't hit me as much as the other ones)."Doin'Time" sounds a bit out of place but I like it and it brings some variations.At this point, the album is basically two parts for me : from the beginning to "Love Song" (the I-know-these-songs-already part, which is also a bit more varied musically) and the rest which is more piano-ballads driven. Although the 1st part is great, I might actually prefer the second one (the run from "Cinnamon Girl" to "Bartender" is fantastic).Also fwiw, it's only 5min shorter than Lust For Life.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
really don't get the appeal of this. it's pleasant enough but the songs leave my head as soon as i hear them
― imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link
This is EXACTLY how I feel about this. It is far too long like every LDR album I have ever listened to but at the same time I'm not sure what parts of it I would cut. And her voice sounds so expressive and her roles so well-performed.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/lana-del-rey-norman-fucking-rockwell/
!!!!!!!!
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link