out tomorrow on beatport (though beatport sucks tbh).
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 5 September 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
DJing at an elementary school pot luck tonight and definitely dropping something off this WHEW
― Papa Triste (Thee Macallan 18 Year), Thursday, 5 September 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
haha have fun
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link
this sure is 1000 percent wonderful
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link
Hmm this sounds sick as fuck
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
ecstatic beat is blowing my mind
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
“Can you see me?” 🥂
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link
this is what I need
house music
― marcos, Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link
I love how this album is so much more energetic and ravey than the last album and yet still holds into that eerie, haunting, bittersweet quality.
“Can You See Me” is A++++++++
― Tim F, Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link
this is an extremely enjoyable record.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 5 September 2019 23:08 (five years ago) link
ecstatic beat mindblow here too.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 5 September 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
Spin Girl, Let's Activate! is a fun ride.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 5 September 2019 23:38 (five years ago) link
I love this record but now I'm self-judging about how much I relate to this right now and whether it's all gender euphoria or whether I just want to get super high
― sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Friday, 6 September 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link
i know exactly how you feel
― cheese canopy (map), Friday, 6 September 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
whether it's all gender euphoria or whether I just want to get super high
― sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Thursday, September 5, 2019 5:27 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the answer is: yes
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 September 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link
i'm perfectly sober and affect-free and this is a nice record
― j., Friday, 6 September 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
First track is amazing also 🌅
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 6 September 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
really liking this so far
"I Need You" from the For Lovers EP is still my favorite track of the year though
― Dan S, Friday, 6 September 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link
this is so much fun
― ufo, Friday, 6 September 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link
the slowing down then speeding up of "spin girl" is like v gradually being put through a blender
"spin girl" -> "ecstatic beat" -> "can you see me" oh my GOD
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 September 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link
this is really really good
― cheese canopy (map), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
yes!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link
Indeed so.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link
I am 2:30 into the first track and super angry that I wasted all of that time listening to a Lana Del Rey album I knew I wouldn't like instead of this
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link
wow this album is something.
― calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link
I fux w/this
― k3vin k., Saturday, 7 September 2019 14:24 (five years ago) link
TURN IT OVER.
LET IT SPIN.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 06:53 (five years ago) link
I can't wait to drop one of these at a party. Pretty damn hard retro action on all of them.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 07:14 (five years ago) link
i have no insight to add except YES ALL OF THIS
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 08:46 (five years ago) link
I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:10 (five years ago) link
sad i missed the vinyl, i hope they make more.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link
this record is such a gift
― devvvine, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:39 (five years ago) link
it's ridic
ahhhh i found one :)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, September 10, 2019 7:10 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link
Ok I finally got around to listening to this, and it's great. I was a little wary of too many '90s retro-isms, but yeah it works and everything's in balance, great record.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
big fan, new album is fucking great.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
Love everything about this, especially that it samples Ya Kid K singing her Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle track
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
oooo do tell which sample that is
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
Turn it over, let it spin
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
https://youtu.be/xP_Z7EJ10RM
do I love it ? oh yeahdo I want it ? hell yeahdo really need it? yes indeedI smoke the mic like weedfor real, legit, you feel itI'm talking ‘bout the real dealI'mma make you feelyo DJ, spin that wheel
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link
<3
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link
the more I play this album. the more I love it
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link
something about listening to this album reminded me of a time I tagged along with a friend to a college radio dj gathering in the park when I was still in school. everyone was having an amazingly chill time, laughing and dancing around as the sun was setting. it took me almost twenty minutes to realize “groove is in the heart” had been playing on repeat the entire time I’d been there
― untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:48 (five years ago) link
this album keeps working
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
so great
― Dan S, Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
if you have the opportunity to see an Octo Octa/Eris Drew b2b dj set, do it!
I probably could have done so in Chicago at some point instead of traveling partway around the world, nonetheless...
― mh, Sunday, 13 October 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
I hate to be churlish but my vinyl doesn't seem to be..... mastered well? It's exhausting to listen to. I don't have this problem listening to the digital versions on headphones. I'm not usually sensitive to this stuff so I feel like it must be pretty bad if I'm noticing! Then again i could be just a wee bit deranged. This stuff can be subjective.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 November 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
Someone mentioned Eris Drew
https://www.residentadvisor.net/reviews/24835
This new EP is great
― omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
hell yeah, thanks for the heads up!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
idk what this has to do with nostalgia unless its nostalgia for a time when ppl went out dancing more and were isolated less; when dating wasn't outsourced to swipes, when hanging with friends wasn't outsourced to parasocial podcasts, when restaurants werent delivered by paper bags. i'm not saying nostalgia for monoculture as much as an appreciation for 'common ground' between people, irl relationships. I mean, 'french kiss' was hardly hegemonic just bc it was something that became 'obvious' among an extended community, even if it was a hit
― xheugy eddy (D-40)
"people", though... who's "people"? the stuff you're talking about in your litany of "remember when" is stuff i do _now_, hanging out with friends, going out to restaurants and coffee shops, dating. in the '90s? in the '90s i was a miserable fuckin' mess. there's for me the Before Time, this unimaginably hellish way of living. the '90s for me was trolling and flaming on Usenet, being isolated, not having friends in person, all of the things you say define The Way We Live Now. trans time, queer time, trauma time, there is no past, present, future, no progress, no regression. there is only _now_.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link
I mean I was in high school in the 90s and not going out at all, lol, and I resist all the time (tho I do feel their pull certainly more than I did pre smartphone) the weird social media based drive toward atomization and away from community, I of course don’t claim that as a universal experience though! I’m trying to describe an overarching trend as representative of a yearning for resistance to existing technological trends, not universalize my own experience
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 05:01 (two years ago) link
Or to put it another way, a lot of 80s-90s culture is worried about top-down authoritarian dictates of culture, cf songs about the government telling you you can’t do this or that, or admonishing us for watching too much tv. In such an environment, the mass exposure of a simple creative technique can ruin the technique by association, by a feeling of overexposure.. I’m trying to suggest it’s a lot harder for us to be “overexposed” to a technique, that we are all much more aware of the multiplicity of niches, that there can be some insanely popular song that you completely avoid and never come across, and so using its techniques doesn’t feel as particularly loaded politically
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 05:05 (two years ago) link
Anyway this was intended to be a supplement to what you were saying not a contradiction of it, just another perspective
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 05:06 (two years ago) link
rushomancy you should listen to French Kiss :)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:39 (two years ago) link
oh that makes total sense and i 100% agree! sorry, just didn't get what you were saying initially :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 13:57 (two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand
listening to it now, it's cool but music like this is so _contextual_, it's body music and it's 7 in the morning, i haven't had my coffee, i'm listening to this streaming on youtube on my shitty computer speakers in my tiny apartment alone, and this is clearly not the environment. particularly when listening to unmixed versions of tracks, every one of them has this slow intro where it builds up from nothing and that's not how one experiences these in person. there's one intro per set and the rest is just music.
oh god it just turned into a sexy slow jam with the orgasm noises, this is kinda gross tbh? to me, this like, represents a male view of sexuality? there's a synth squiggle and it absolutely, this is like "whole lotta love" levels of stuff here. i like "whole lotta love"! though i prefer, these days, the tina turner version, because there's something i love about hearing a woman singing about her dick.
like it's hard to put into words, particularly speaking as someone who doesn't come from an electronic music background and doesn't know very much about the history and culture, but there's something about her music that conveys feminine _empowerment_, i don't see her music as "tough" or "hard" just like... _energetic_. one of the things i hate most about patrick cowley's influence is the classification of hi-NRG as masculine, and even though i'm not masc myself i like upbeat music a lot! i mean i'd look at something like picopop which is _extremely_ energetic and _extremely_ femme.
regarding slowing a song and speeding it back up, i just... like, i don't even hear that as what octo octa is doing here, like, yeah, she's got a separate section in another BPM, it's as much "batdance" as it is "french kiss". the _point_ isn't that it slows down or speeds up, it's taking things in a new direction, looking at the subject from a different perspective, a different angle. it's like nirvana getting called pixies ripoffs for alternating quiet and loud sections in their songs. the slow section is deliberate but it's also... i mean it kinda reminds me of pink floyd's "obscured by clouds"! which, again, propulsive and ethereal at the same time.
really - and this is my background - i hear it more as a prog-rock suite kind of thing than something like french kiss, which is only interested in one thing and it's fucking disgusting :) there's a sense of being in _the moment_ rather than driving towards a climax.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
lil louis literally only wants one thing and it’s fucking disgusting
― the late great, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link
i’ve always thought octo octa and especially eris drew are really really phenomenal djs, eris’ “raving disco breaks” in particular is some next level shit imo. their productions are not bad, but in my mind not nearly as inspired
however since i’ve had it on the brain (due to thread revive) i remember that the one production i keep coming back to over and over again is octa’s “power to the people”. i remember first time i heard it was a club situation, knowing the dj (friend) i “knew” it was off the (then new) resonant bodies album (which i hadn’t yet heard at all at the time) … i remember when the speech picked up and the kick came back i literally stopped dancing to boggle at how good the track was
the speech always seemed familiar to me, wasn’t sure why until last winter when i checked out a cspan talk with author / director of “how to survive a plague”. it’s act-up member bob rafsky, clip is in the film and excerpted in the cspan talk. a film well worth seeing
― the late great, Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link
look at this shit, i was just introducing my girlfriend to octo octa, telling her how much resonant body meant to me (she had the same experience with tami t, which if you haven't heard tami t it is absolutely _peak_ transfem experience) and i'm looking her up on RYM and not only did she release vol. 2 of love hypnosis (which i missed out on a cassette of, serves me right for my life being a complete fucking disaster) but she put out this record on archive.org last month:
https://archive.org/details/minimal-tears-one
i really need to listen to more eris drew, i haven't heard nearly enough of her stuff
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 March 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
also here fwiw
https://minimaltears.neocities.org/
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 March 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
wtf, how was i sleeping on eris drew, this shit is fucking amazing, maybe it's because i don't go see a lot of djs - soon as i came out covid hit and since then ... i guess i could do dance nights and stuff, i don't really sleep these days, i'm just out of the loop what with not doing the socials and all.
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
Nice The Art of DJing feature on RA here:
https://ra.co/features/4145
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link
eris’ “raving disco breaks” in particular is some next level shit imo
this sounds awesome, got a link to any particularly good sets?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
i think one of the things that is really clicking with me right now, revisiting octo octa and eris drew's music, is this sense of _emergent_ transness. early in transition, octo octa's music was... not life-_saving_, but life-_giving_ to me. it gave me something to hope for. so much trans music is this sort of 4tran miserablist stuff and dysphoria is a _thing_, feeling bad is part of being trans. transition is a huge change, and that change is a good change but it's often difficult and it hurts, and sometimes it feels hopeless.
t4t luv nrg gave me something to look forward to, trans not as _becoming_ but as _being_. not just being, but t4t was this vision of a _community_. the worst thing about the dysphoria, for me, was feeling like i was the only one who felt that way, and so when that song with that hook, "i know exactly how you feel" came in, i knew she was right, she did.
and then covid and the slow collapse of my marriage fucked that all up. community stopped being about joy and was just about survival.
once we decided to all pretend covid was over and my marriage was dead, i wound up finding joy in community in other ways. that's the thing that i love about maya and eris's music now, just seeing how _many_ ways there are to be trans. when i look at maya and eris, i see accomplished, passionate, and fiercely loving women, women who know who they are and who love being who they are. maybe that's projecting, maybe they're just mirrors and i'm saying that because that's how i see myself.
but the thing is i also now see and value the ways in which i'm _not_ like them. i got friends who go out and dj all night and i think it's super cool and it's just not something i've gotten into really. i guess i could, i'm not really sleeping anyway, but the drop is brutal, and mushies don't play well with my mood stabilizers, and when you try to set up a date with molly a lot of the time tina shows up instead, and i just wind up doing t4t in other ways. my friends and i, we lie together, quiet and still, and hold each other and tell each other it's going to be ok.
anyway that's one of the things i love about their music now, the way it's about the joy of being in the moment, that it's one sort of transfem music and black dresses is another sort and tami t is another sort and that's without even getting into the whole panoply of _transmasc_ music which is its own amazing thing.
but what i also love about it is something that confuses a lot of people, in that it's not necessarily _obviously_ trans music in the way that, say, _transgender dysphoria blues_ is. trans music doesn't mean singing songs about being trans, it doesn't even have to be music that's _universally recognizable_ as trans. i got trans friends who hear maya and eris and they're like "wait, what's trans about this?" because transness isn't universal, because t4t doesn't mean every trans person for every other trans person. that used to bother me but now i think it's beautiful, that we're as different from each other as cis people are from each other.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
new EP kicks ass
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
oh hell yeah
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link
It does! I don't know what it is about her music. I've changed a lot in the past four years. I'm not really into the "T4T" thing like I used to be. Something about her music just resonates, just hits something within me, some deep trans joy. Trans joy isn't something I've really felt a lot of lately. It's good to know it's still a thing I'm capable of experiencing.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
this is really great
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:31 (eleven months ago) link
Nobody told me about the Bored Lord album that came out IN NOVEMBER on T4T LUV NRG so now I am angry with all of you
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 10:27 (eight months ago) link
no dedicated Eris Drew thread but the latest mix is incredible: https://soundcloud.com/eris-drew/eris-drew-mystery-of-the-motherbeat-vol-2-3
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:43 (seven months ago) link
Thanks for posting!
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:48 (seven months ago) link
Seconded!
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:31 (seven months ago) link
for deep listening and personal synchronization with the heart of Motherbeat
count me in this is great
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 13:20 (seven months ago) link
― Fizzles, Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:00 (seven months ago) link
It really is! It’s like a much better version of that Pangaea album everyone got weirdly and unjustifiably excited about.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:04 (seven months ago) link
New DJ mix from Octo Octa:
https://octoocta.bandcamp.com/merch/groovy-girl-bang-the-drum-cd-mix
Physical media is _CD_! Oh my God, is this the first stirrings of the hipster CD revival? Not to worry, it's streaming on Soundcloud for those of you who just got rid of your CD players.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:44 (five months ago) link