You never heard of the Chemirocha before? I envy you finding out about that for the first time
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link
So if I read correctly, major label recording didn’t hit it’s stride in Nashville until 1957, when Steve Sholes using Elvis money and momentum to instruct Chet Atkins to build the new studio RCA studio, with presumably the incident mentioned in the series about Decca not moving to Dallas and Owen Bradley building their new studio happening around the same time
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Ugh “its” not “it’s”
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
Obviously there was recording on before that, some of it in WSM’s Air Castle Studio, not sure where else exactly.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
This gives a pretty good idea of the timeline:https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/nashville-recording-industry/
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
This too: http://sportsandentertainmentnashville.com/the-history-of-music-row-60-years-of-greatness/
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
and this: http://www.scottymoore.net/studio_mcgavock.html
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
i see PBS is already shipping DVDs
and the library has ordered 'em
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
I read somewhere that the 1927 landmark Bristol sessions were recorded there (Bristol TN, not UK, which would have been innaresting) when Nashville was mostly known as a minor-ish industrial town---this article seems pretty accurate, from what I recall (no I wasn't there):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sessions
― dow, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
Right. I think the it is stated in many places, including this doc, that this was the first significant recording of this music in the South.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
By which I think I mean a one-two punch of the Fiddlin’ John Carson recordings in Atlanta and then the Bristol sessions.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
If you liked the doc, the companion book is essential. Probably my favorite thing on TV all year.
― Wally P. Doyle, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
Seems like the companion book has extra stuff that’s not in the show.Just noticed Tommy Duncan imitating Robert Johnson.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
Well, good morning, Captain!
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
This is your old pal Gene Autry calling. I was just passing through town and thought I’d call to see how y’all were doing.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
They didn't get into Carlene Carter as a recording artist eitherIs her father ever even mentioned?
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link
I don't think so. They just brought up that June was married when she and Johnny first got together.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link
Somewhere (I hope) I've stiil got an ancient twofer CC CD, Blue Nun/Musical Shapes, from her Nick Lowe era, with other members and colleagues of Rockpile, I think: good but could use re-masterting, as I thought even when it first came out. Later she worked with Al Anderson, who had left NRBQ and moved to Nashville--okay songwriter, though I preferred his guitar, with which she and he ripped it up on Austin City Limits.Best album of hers I've heard is 2014 Carter Girl, where she folds elements of the Family sound and karma into her own rolling thing. At first I really liked the 2017 Mellencamp offering featuring her, Sad Clowns and Hillbillies---he's a painter of such---but later it seemed kind of stupid, because of his mannerisms, which he actually sounded happy with, even though I've liked several of his albums.(They prob didn't mention the Mellenplate formula of denim pop country, since that was mostly post-'96, when the hats were starting to come off.)
― dow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
They just brought up that June was married when she and Johnny first got together.They were both married iirc?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
To other people, I mean
Yes. Figured it went without saying.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
my interest started to flag when they were goin in to Hank Williams Jr. and Roseanne Cash careers but then they tied it all up nicely with Pancho and Lefty
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
i haven't seen this but: rosanne cash rules and king's record shop changed country music. is it just boringly rendered
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
The episode they focus on her in is by far the longest one, and to be honest, they could have moved both her and/or Hank Jr. to the next one for better effect.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
ahhh. jeez i gotta start watching this already
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
I think all the eps are streaming for free on the PBS site now, so dig in!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
they are streaming until 10/6 iirc
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
oh shit i'll never finish lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
It’s on Kanopy now.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
Wow. Who has access to that anymore?
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
I do
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
tbh I don't use it much though
Replacements thread reminding how things like their country covers and pastiches helped lead the way, for me and my cohort at least, back to the this stuff, along with the same from pub and punk rockers, especially Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe, as well as the not-uncommon “turn” from punk to alt-country and early adopter country punks like, say, Jason and the Scorchers, whereas before this was just music I was forced to listen to in the car with my dad, on a pretty tightly formatted station such that the only time I heard about Lefty Frizzell was on a Sunday night interview show. Kind of dreading watching the last episode as it rides off into the sunset as I doubt this will be discussed, didn’t notice it in the penultimate episode.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Forgot to mention X and The Blasters and no doubt several more.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link
Which I just reminded myself of, but will leave to others to bring to thread if they want.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
Ah, thanks for reminding me that Jason (Ringenberg) has a new album out this year, though it's not on his bandcamp (yet?)---lots of stuff here:TS: Lone Justice or Cruzados or Drivin' & Cryin' or Green On Red or Del Fuegos or Jason & The Scorchers or Long Ryders or Bodeans?
and
The Blasters: C or D?
― dow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
Did they mention "Dead Flowers"? Still need to check Townes VZ's version.
― dow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
Don’t think so. Believe they did mention Gram Parsons’s involvement with Exile On Main Street, but that was probably the extent of any Rolling Stones connection.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
Darn. Oh yeah, some of this pertains:Giant Sand / Howe Gelb P0X
― dow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
Never appreciated until now the country, blues & rockabilly classics that were introduced to me by Beasts of Bourbon covers alone
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link
I think Cantwell's recent Tanya Tucker piece for the New Yorker put it pretty well:/Because it’s a late-career country-music comeback, “While I’m Livin’ ” is bound to be compared to Johnny Cash’s “American Recordings.” But Rick Rubin, the producer of the Cash album, succeeded in part by shrinking Cash’s complexity to a kind of two-dimensional rebellion.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 4 October 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link
Remember too that Cash--perhaps with some label influence--had cast a wide net for material for some time: He was one of the first Country artists to record Dylan; "Ballad of Ira Hayes" was by a Greenwich folkie; and in the '80s he was recording Nick Lowe material and stuff from Springsteen's Nebraska.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
a) Naive Teen Idol: you make a great argument but jfc “facile”? you dont get to come at Cash backwards and presume to say that my misgivings as a lifelong fan are facile. it pisses me offand b) if anyone else starts piling on to “remind” me about Cash i will kill every one of your firstborn children mark my words
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2019 05:15 (four years ago) link
...just to watch them die
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2019 05:21 (four years ago) link
*nods*
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2019 05:35 (four years ago) link
Ha. Well, apologies, VG, that wasn’t directed at you so much as the passage from Cantwell. Just the idea that anything about Cash in that era is “two-dimensional” rubs me the wrong way given how rich the music actually is. I mean, I get it. The marketing, the NIN, etc. A lot (most?) people see his American Recordings work and nothing else of Cash. But I think that ultimately does a disservice to the music across those records in a lot of ways. That’s all I meant.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 4 October 2019 05:37 (four years ago) link
Btw, did you know that his birth name was not “Johnny,” but just a pair of initials, “J.R.”? *ducks*
― Three Borads and the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 October 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link
oooh you’re gonna get it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
I believe the ubiquitous Marty Stuart tells a story of taking that final portrait picture of him. Johnny was kind of slumped and falling asleep so Marty said “J.R!” whereby he immediately snapped to attention
― Three Borads and the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 October 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Immediately after the photo session Marty accompanied Johnny to his dressing closet, where he received five Man In Black suits along with with five Western-style dress shirts and an equal number of bolo ties.
― Three Borads and the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link