lol how'd I miss this thread
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
u2 achtung baby?
alfred what are the official years
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
late '88 to late '93.
Those college/"modern" rock charts well into '93 are bizarre
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
would love a full PBI canon
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link
10,000 Maniacs and REM
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link
Is there a name for that genre of turn-of-the-90s pop-rock with the positive vibes, huge guitar leads, and gated drums?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link
^I once made a Spotify playlist that was sort of inspired by that thread: Basically, circa-1991 groove-oriented college rock: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5sZ4hJ2B8f5I96PerzVmF1?si=Tj8fPQ9jS0OyiLWw1INkiA
― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link
OMG, does anyone else remember this goofy tune? It was real popular on Boston modern rock radio for a few weeks. For some reason, listening to Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever always brings this band to mind, and the kind of jangle rock that was popular pre-grunge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCy13kjj13M
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link
Iconic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWd__w5UWVc
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link
Some overlap with: Here we post radio-slick, ultracompressed Modern Rock singles 1987-1990 w/ huge gated drums & lots of chorus! (youtube thread)
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
every Roxette hit
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
Crash Test Dummies
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
Toad the Wet SprocketPretty Hate Machine era NIN
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
Jane's AddictionFaith No More
The Interzone is where subgenre thinking really took off - punk splits in to emo, crust, pigfuck, grunge, garage-punk; house and techno become garage, rave, minimal; metal becomes black, death, grindcore; indie becomes twee, Madchester, shoegaze; hiphop becomes gangsta, native tongues, etc etc etc
― file of unknown origin (bendy), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
I wrote down a list of the records that defined my listening at the time, but wasn't sure if that was the point of this thread.
However, from a broader perspective, I can never reflect on this era without hearing 'Save the Best for Last' by Vanessa Williams. Or half a dozen Mariah Carey singles.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
deej otm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
also think of americans like myself - via 120 minutes (said show which is a HUGE part of the pbi) getting a first taste of uk dance music through soul ii soul, stereo mcs, "telephone thing" by the fall/coldcut, etc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
dave kendall era natch
Thank u 2 cryptosicko for explaining the rubric of this oddly-named thread in the midst of the Roxette discussion. I prolly never would've clicked through even though the era was central to my musical development.
To wit:Greatest Billboard Top 40(-ish) Ballad (1988 edition)Greatest Billboard Top 40(-ish) (Song That Is Reminiscent Of A) Ballad (1990 edition)
― Masters of Engilsh Litera-ture (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
ultimate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaO_WhajB88
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ImRyPymRAM
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr02Ahz0lT4
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUAl819jzs
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwg6UcmWDeA
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
god I love "Bad of the Heart."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
for awhile in '90-'91 it felt like every week there was a new freestyle smash. they all still sound pretty damn good.
of course every week there was also some drip like Timmy T up there releasing an inexplicably inescapable hit.
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
Presto-Roll The Bones Rush
(A certain thinness of production that is certainly recognisable as not being post-93 unlike eg. Counterparts (and a million alt rock albums post-93)
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
Rupert Hine! Same mix (Tom Lord-Alge?) used on Stevie Nicks' The Other Side of the Mirror. Compare "Rooms on Fire" to Rush's "Ghost of a Chance."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhBc35T-e4
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
If a PBI penchant is the greater willingness for a mega-selling artist, who is strongly identified by a certain genre, to make an overture towards other emerging genres of the era, then I nominate MacPhisto and Co. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y1YFH9A3Bw
― Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
I'm okay with this just becoming a freestyle thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2bDaTvow0
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Achtung Baby feels like the apex of the PBI
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
This one's for Alfred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeZ3QV_IJXc
― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
on your knees, boy
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ
― Josefa, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
I'm down with post-'80s freestyle too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox85dGD79K0
― Josefa, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
crystal waters/gypsy woman/lock thread
― mookieproof, Saturday, December 1, 2018
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
Every banger should include 'she's homeless' somewhere in the chorus.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
this song feels like achtung baby without sounding like achtung baby if that makes sensehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTWeLUB5OI
thanks to tim f for putting me onto it years n years ago
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
im probably also being influenced by the post soviet euro vibe of the video but whats more achtung baby than a reliance on visuals
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
INXS tried out the Achtung Baby thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuBZRBMOYqM
― omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
Albums: Use Your Illusion.
Song: Two Princes.
― Mule, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
Upon reflection Two Princes wasn’t released as a single until early ‘93, although the album was out in ‘91, so it arguably misses the mark
― Mule, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
Yes, also Journeyman-era Clapton, Manic Nirvana-era Robert Plant, Pump-era Aerosmith. I remember all these as huge on mainstream rock/AOR radio.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=&v=F-nyeiKk35M
― omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
― Mule, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:06 (thirty-two minutes ago) link
This feels off to me ... I def remember two princes as like a eight or nine year old kid which would have been before 93... no way that song hadn’t hit the world before that
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
I was 9-13 from 88-92 and rock radio playlists from that time are permanently etched into a lobe. An interesting period around 1990-1991 when even I could tell hair metal had largely run its course. Radio stations were messing around with a mix of mellowed-out warhorses, rootsier bands like the Black Crowes and art-metal stuff like FNM/King's X and whatever Queensryche was; the first radio singles of Alice in Chains and Soundgarden (pushed as kind of a return to Black Sabbath iirc). xps
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
"Two Princes" video released Feb 92, apparently
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
Ah, that makes more sense. Let’s count it in then.
― Mule, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
Transition from Metallica's "One" (the video for which was announced as a major event for days leading up to its release on MuchMusic) to the monster that was the black album seems key.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
Hell yeah, D-40!!! K-Klass “Let Me Show You” felt like the best song ever to me at the time. (Achtung Baby was not involved)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 12 December 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link
Twin Peaks soundtrack, Chris Isaak, Divinyls, Mazzy Star
― beard papa, Thursday, 12 December 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link
sorry.. was a little drunk and felt compelled to belch that post out while on a train.
― beard papa, Thursday, 12 December 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
Here's my 1991 list, peak PBI.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link
1991-1992 was notable for a brief spasm of post-Native Tongues alternative hip-hop that got played on the local alternative rock station. It was in and out in a little over a year, culminating in Digable Planets and Arrested Development with Cantaloup by Us3 following in 1993, after which I think the station ceased playing rap, other than maybe Beck. See also, PM Dawn from Alfred's list.
MC 900 Foot Jesushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KB54p8_wh8
Basehead - 2000 BChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxWzzGpmBEA
Rise Robots Rise - All Sewn Uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecs5IQfdahw
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy - Television https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky4uYnsF3kc
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link
I will second "Winds of Change" as an iconic PBI song, especially given its overt political nature.
It was released as the album's third single in January 1991 and became a worldwide hit, just after the failed coup that would eventually lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union. The song topped the charts in Germany and across Europe and peaked at number four in the United States on August 31, 1991 and number two in the United Kingdom.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
It would be a shame if we overlooked PBI-era songs containing actual Poppy Bush samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqvLToWH7k
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
"Language of Violence" was the Hiphoprisy single that really stuck with me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J_qadIwM60
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
The actual Native Tongues groups were a huuuuge deal at my high school, probably more than any other music.
Also, I somehow got sent on a field trip to see PM Dawn around that time.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
More transitional rock stuff, that I was hearing on MuchMusic only:
Pop Will Eat Itself - Wise Up! SuckerWarrior Soul - Losers
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
We didn't have a commercial alternative station until the mid-90s so I remember that the campus stations would sometimes play relatively popular singles (not that I knew anyone who listened to them) by e.g. Cure or Morrissey or NIN during general music programs, in between shows devoted to music in Hindi or discussions of eco-feminism or John Cage tributes. Within a few years, DJs would have probably thought it ludicrous for someone to request those things.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
I somehow got sent on a field trip to see PM Dawn around that time.
we took an 8th grade class trip in 1990 to see laser Depeche Mode
― unobtrusive ambient poll participant, Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
For your reference and edification, I present a complete list of SNL musical guests from Bush I's term of office:
Anita BakerJohn HiattLuther VandrossCowboy JunkiesGipsy KingsElvis Costello (x2)Living ColourDolly PartonJohn Cougar MellencampFine Young CannibalsTom Petty & the Heartbreakers (x2)Neil Young (x2)Rickie Lee JonesBilly JoelDon HenleyEurythmicsDavid Byrnek.d. langLinda Ronstadt/Aaron NevilleTracy ChapmanHarry Connick, Jr.Bonnie Raitt (x2)Tevin Campbell/Kool Moe Dee/Big Daddy KaneAerosmithTechnotronicThe PoguesEric ClaptonThe SmithereensThe B-52'sJulee Cruise/Spanic BoysThe Notting HillbilliesSinéad O'Connor (x2)Hothouse FlowersMorris Day & The TimeMariah Carey (x2)World PartyPaul SimonFaith No MoreEdie Brickell & New BohemiansThe Neville BrothersVanilla IceStingINXSDeee-LiteWhitney HoustonThe Black Crowes (x2)FishboneR.E.M.Michael BoltonChris IsaakPublic EnemyColor Me BaddSkid RowTin MachineMC HammerJames TaylorNirvanaRobbie Robertson/Bruce Hornsby & the RangeC&C Music FactoryTeenage FanclubRed Hot Chili PeppersGarth BrooksEn VoguePearl JamAnnie LennoxBruce SpringsteenVanessa WilliamsBobby BrownThe Spin DoctorsArrested Development10,000 ManiacsMorrisseySadeBon JoviMadonna
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link
Lol, what schools did you go to? We did go to see Phantom of the Opera. xp
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
"Language of Violence" was the Hiphoprisy single that really stuck with me.
Yeah, I was a fan of the whole album, but didn't even know that Language of Violence was a single!
And Winds of Change is definitely one of those songs that I heard a million times back then and I think about all the time, but never hear on the radio or anything.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
I feel like there had to have been 'can you even believe this mindblowing era we're living through?' songs from more than just Jesus Jones and the Scorpions released back then but I'm drawing a blank rn.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
Rush had one, but it sucks
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
We Didn't Start the Fire is kinda of that ilk.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it's kinda in the ballpark, but then it's also kinda just a recitation of a history text without any coherent aim.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
There was also this type of thing, kind of metaphorically optimistic somewhat 1960s conscious vibe that somehow also felt new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zg-MhEXb4c
― Josefa, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
that SNL is amazing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
xxp: yeha, it was more accidentally relevant
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
yeah
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
1991-1992 was notable for a brief spasm of post-Native Tongues alternative hip-hop that got played on the local alternative rock station. It was in and out in a little over a year, culminating in Digable Planets and Arrested Development with Cantaloup by Us3 following in 1993, after which I think the station ceased playing rap, other than maybe Beck
This stuff dovetailed and blended with the acid jazz scene, but then I've seldom heard the term acid jazz spoken since around '96 (maybe it's different in UK)
― Josefa, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:15 AM (seventeen minutes ago)
What's incoherent about trying to dodge an arson charge?
― rob, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
It's called 'protesting just a little too much', Billy. I mean you reek of gasoline.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
(Now I'm imagining his attorney plaintively intoning the verses from the song in his closing statement to the jury, and it's a funny thing to imagine.)
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
I tried defining it.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:58 (three months ago) link