― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:47 (twenty years ago) link
strider, with the best line in the song, i love that bit
― ulke, Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Keith McD, Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link
― KILLA B, Thursday, 8 January 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― rishlje, Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link
Ha ha this description is *purpose-built* to make me salivate uncontrollably. It occurred to me the other day that over the last year my entire listening habits have shifted somewhat towards overblown melodic multicoloured pyrotechnics. I'm not sure what's the cause but I'm blaming dancehall.
Incidentally, after all that confusion over Vice Versa being a remix or not I'm pretty sure that it's just "Vice Versa" now! Sorry for mixing everyone up!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― l', Friday, 9 January 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:35 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago) link
― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link
The best stuff strikes me as an odd mesh of early 2-step, 'ardkore and that brief late nineties fad for jungle mixes of R&B tunes - the first for the way the producer shreds the vocals to little hiccups and phrases, the second for the way it all sounds like a composite of different effects, and the third for its brute physicality. It's definitely quite different to even the darker vocal 2-step of 00-02, which tended to let the vocal run straight through.
This stuff isn't the future in any way shape or form, but I enjoy it immensely.
because the original tune (or the lead vocalist in the case of new productions) is pretty much eviscerated by the snapping beats and slimy basslines
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:10 (twenty years ago) link
― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
... are my three favourites, but look for that one Luka talked about on his blog 'cos he makes it sound awesome:
Terra Danjah feat. Sadie & Kano - So Sure
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link
that wasn't me that was lee, (anythingcanhappen.blogspot.com) who i think was posting under the name tinman. i should have made it more obvious i was quoting.
― luke', Tuesday, 13 January 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago) link
the only other tune ive herad like this (on the independance site) is a bit rubbish too - Get 2 Know- Skepta Feat Chardonnai (thats a good name though). my fear is that the vocalists they are going to get are kinda shit. i like shola ama however, if only i could actually hear that tune with terra danjah!
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
Ambrose the rubbishiness or otherwise of the vocalists is usually a bit moot because they're mostly sped up shrill cyber-divas (this is why I didn't include Gemma Fox or Lorraine Cato first off - the sound has moved on slightly).
Prima explain your Terra Danja hate plz - I don't hear the Hyperdub connection you're making, or if I do surely it applies to Danny Weed, Davinche et. al. as well?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link
― tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link
luka's right - "armour" is lethal injection. i'm stupid.
tinman - could you msg me next time yr on slsk?! i had a crash and lost my user list.
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link
I thought something was wrong! Are they on there anywhere then?
If I can get Nicotine client to work for Mac (Tim, have you tried this?), I might finally be up on soulseek soon. I'm desperate to hear all the new stuff.
― Fatal Beret (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link
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― the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
in the new Femme Fatale set with Kano & Mac 10
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 15 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link
I notice that Femme and Richie are increasingly parting ways, with Femme playing more and more grime and Richie playing more and more old skool.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago) link
except, last week I successfully loaded Femme Fatale, had to stop it, came back to it and got the De La show again - aaaah!
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
― the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 16 January 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 16 January 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link
also, what are good ukg websites worth checking?
(questions from a friend, he wanted asking).
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link
Rewind mag site is all right. Hyperdub also.
Has anyone heard the j2k thing yet??
― East Bay Crackhaus (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 January 2004 04:47 (twenty years ago) link
― ', Saturday, 17 January 2004 10:39 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 January 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
wht's the article like toby?
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
what's this wiley track called "morgue" that i'm waiting to download, then?
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
Spiritual homes: Bow in east London; Croydon; the internet; radio stations broadcast from scary tower blocks.
Musical influences: raving, Playstations, hand-rolled hydroponic cigarettes.
Key accessory: a mean-looking crew of mates.
Anthem: Ground Zero by Wiley.
In the cities and suburbs of the UK, a sound is being created so new that no one yet knows quite what to call it. Young kids with access to cheap and simple music-making software (sometimes even on Playstations) are blending the dancefloor funk of UK garage with the bass-heavy rawness of drum and bass, the spacious rolling syncopations of R&B and dancehall/ragga, and the futuristic gleam of electro.
While more fashion-orientated clubbers are still obsessed with rigid, retrograde 1980s-influenced music, a tight underground network of ravers, producers and distinctively British rappers, linked by websites and pirate radio stations, is rapidly evolving the lithe, "grimy" sound of the future.
Dizzee Rascal is the highest-profile proponent of the new British urban sound, but his ex-colleague in Roll Deep Crew, producer and MC Wiley Kat looks ready to follow his success with an album due in the spring. Two female rappers, Shystie and Lady Sovereign, are also being tipped for success following their joint appearance on The Battle by Medasyn, aka Gabriel Olegovitch – a young producer who has already remixed Christina Aguilera and Lil' Kim. A less MC-centred substrain of the sound is centred around a club night called Forward in central London and – somewhat bizarrely – the suburban sprawl of Croydon. Producers such as Plasticman, Horsepower, Hatcha, Sheffield's Oris Jay and Mancunian Mark One are all knocking out endlessly varying instrumental permutations on what variously has been called "grime garage", "eight bar" or "dubstep" to a small but dedicated cadre of obsessive listeners.
Although most "grime" records have thus far been aimed at DJs only, get ready for this uncompromising, mind-bogglingly inventive UK sound to break into the mainstream in 2004.
Joe Muggs
― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link
― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link