pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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And that they had been sold to a media conglomerate

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 7 February 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

you had to be there. it was hilarious at the time.

enochroot, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

the greatest trick pitchfork ever pulled was convincing the world they'd never sincerely review a kylie minogue album

omar little, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

I was just looking through the Wayback Machine trying to track down an archived version of the homepage on that date. Unfortunately, there's a gap between March and May, but I did stumble upon a letter I forgot I wrote (in the reader mailbag) in praise of Ethan P's Eminem Show review.

jaymc, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/gil-scott-heron-makaya-mccraven-were-new-again-a-reimagining-by-makaya-mccraven/

― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Friday, February 7, 2020 12:07 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

(Sorry, couldn't resist. I tend to agree with you and Paul otherwise.)

― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Friday, February 7, 2020 12:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is no reflection on Makaya, as I am an avowed superfan (see International Anthem thread), but this only proves my point (see below). Link me to a Pitchfork review of the new Pat Metheny album, which is getting a lot of coverage elsewhere, including a cover story in this month's Downbeat, and I'll eat my words.

I said free jazz. I also didn't mean the 0.0002% of jazz (mostly coming from the London We Out Here scene and / or Kamasi adjacent) they've deemed worthy of coverage this year. Would be nice to see some coverage of people like Julia Hülsmann (and ECM artists in general), Mary Halvorson, John Zorn, Dave Rempis, Tomeka Reid, etc etc etc. There's a great new Bill Frisell album with Petra Haden they haven't bothered to review.

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, February 3, 2020 8:53 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link

xp Pitchfork has a reader mailbag?!

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:17 (four years ago) link

It did in 2002! Looks like the last installment was in 2004.

jaymc, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

From: mo .
Subject: broke

i came across your website a few years ago and quickly forgot about it. unfortunetely i recently came across it agian. boring. music reviews. who cares what people have to say about music. plus the writing sucks and is boring. double wammy. i can stick a pen in my dogs ass and have him sit on a piece of paper and get better shit then i read on your site. and i happen to catch your year end top , what was it 20, bands/albums. after seeing that i knew you guys suck. keep on trying to be cool. you never will be. i'm not. it doesn't pay to be down.
-maurice

jaymc, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

From: nelson
Subject: you suck

You suck get over yourself you stupid fuckin ironic bastard. I've had it with your lot ya lousey posing fucking loser. fuck your your shit man get a fucking real job and tell me to go pound sand cause I will. LA is a brutal place. You can't come.
The innernet sent me free of charge. said it was ok to acedently find you and send insults. i said why not. it's all free and open. you came to my livingroom. i react. eat me grimmy/

Nelson Bragg

omar little, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

Can't imagine why they discontinued that feature!

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

In other news, this is a well-written review that had me immediately checking out the album: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/higher-power-27-miles-underwater/

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link

Link me to a Pitchfork review of the new Pat Metheny album, which is getting a lot of coverage elsewhere, including a cover story in this month's Downbeat, and I'll eat my words.

FTR, I will be writing about Metheny in my next Stereogum column; I hadn't really been planning to, I'm not much of a fan, but people bring his name up a lot in the comments there, so I checked it out, and it's really fucking good.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

Cool, good to hear. Maybe Pitchfork will follow your lead!

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

yes we need to lift pat metheny out of obscurity

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

says the person who recently started a Sarah McLachlan thread

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

how tf is that relevant to this discussion?

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

Brad made a snide comment about Pat Metheny being undeserving of coverage in SG because he's not obscure. I was merely pointing out that their refined tastes didn't prevent them from starting an ILX poll about one of the most famous (and blandest) pop artists of all time

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

Don't spend all your time waiting for that second chance at an explanation. For that would make it okay. There's always some reason to bring up Sarah Mclaughlin, and it's hard to post coherently at the end of a Friday. I need some distraction. Oh, beautiful ilx. Memories of p4k seep from my veins. Let me be empty- oh, and weightless, and maybe I'll find some Pat Metheny tonight.

Evan, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link

I kind of love that part of Friday afternoon when everyone is some flavor of "u mad"

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

xp The mailbag was priceless. The mailbag was actually how I found out that the Alanis/Kylie reviews were an elaborate troll (this being before in the days before it was standard for websites to prank their readers on April Fools Day). The reader vitriol was real.

enochroot, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

hi what'd I miss

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

i was making a snide comment about your weird priorities paul. i love pat metheny and can't wait to hear the record/read whatever idk prob seth colter walls has to say about it

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

and i not only started a sarah mclachlan thread here, a few years ago i wrote about her... for pitchfork... oh nooooooo

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link

did they review the new Jeff Parker?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 February 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link

they bnm'd it, iirc

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 February 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link

here: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/jeff-parker-suite-for-max-brown/

unrelated, i thought that photo of julian casablancas in their top spot was billie eilish for a sec

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 February 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link

oh good, like that a lot and it seems solidly in the "jazz records Pitchfork might review" zone

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 February 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link

decrying a lack of jazz reviews seems particularly off the mark: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/?genre=jazz

iirc Mary Halvorson and ECM were both specifically mentioned upthread yet both have featured within the past 4 months

rob, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link

obvs there are reasons to critique pitchfork but the "pitchfork" itt is a chimera

rob, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

All media are chimeras.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 8 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

This is much more like it. Exactly the kind of record they should be digging up on a Sunday.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/buffy-sainte-marie-illuminations/

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was a really interesting review that makes me want to hear that album. (My mom owned Fire & Fleet & Candlelight when I was a kid but I don't think she ever played it for me or my brother.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

Amazing album and an amazing write-up. “God Is Alive..” is my vote for the best recorded song of all time tbh. Buffy told me she wrote it the day she’d recorded it and was literally just singing with a copy of Beautiful Losers open in front of her, and told me she’d only performed it once, since, for a CBC thing with a teleprompter. (A Buffy superfan I spoke to contradicted this, and insisted that Buffy had played it live in the 70s.)

Andrew Lloyd Webbersplainer (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

-0.8 for not being Xenakis, amirite?

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/pauline-oliveros-stuart-dempster-pan-deep-listening/

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link

Haha. Good review though! Oliveros deserves all the credit that is (long) overdue.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 10 February 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link

I find it kind of funny that someone sat through eight episodes of a Justin Bieber docuseries, just to report that it is, in fact, bad.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

"redemption propaganda" is how i'd describe his previous album too

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

saw SNL, why does he dress like he's selling drugs outside the Anger Management tour?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

because he's a fucking moron?

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

he’s hilarious, just look at the man

brimstead, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

A long piece titled We Didn’t Need the High Fidelity TV Show starts off by talking at length about how retrograde the book & movie were; spends a few paragraphs talking about how the new TV series (starring Zoe Kravitz) is better; but then -- citing the thesis of an older NY Times article -- concludes (again at length) that the show is nonetheless a drag, because it uses a gender-switch in an attempt to absolve the source material of its sins.

I guess this is a totally valid way to critique a TV show (and it's not poorly written)... but like the Bieber thing, it had me wondering, Who is this being written for?

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link

FWIW, the answer to the article’s core question —

Is High Fidelity really so beloved (or its brand name so powerful) that they couldn’t have started from scratch on a series about music obsessives who aren’t exclusively straight white men?


— is that projects based on known IP have their own momentum; it’s not as if Hulu execs were likely sitting around looking for a “series about music obsessives” to fill a perceived niche.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:05 (four years ago) link

Why spend all this time, money, and energy updating and changing the gender on source material that, in hindsight, is pretty dodgy about women? https://t.co/gKpWJ33b2Y

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) February 14, 2020



What if Godzilla is, in hindsight, about nuclear war and not a big lizard

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:09 (four years ago) link

It’s absolutely bananas to try and score woke points on High Fidelity for its toxic whiteboy masculinity when ... that’s ... literally what the movie was about.

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:12 (four years ago) link

NEWS

Henry Rollins Cast as the Voice of Tri-Klops in Netflix’s He-Man Reboot

The animated series Masters of the Universe: Revelation will also star Mark Hamill, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jason Mewes, and more

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

it's the role rollins was born to play

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

I don’t think that news even makes the yearly activity summary enclosed with Rollins’ Xmas cards.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

Is High Fidelity really so beloved (or its brand name so powerful) that they couldn’t have started from scratch on a series about music obsessives who aren’t exclusively straight white men?

We're literally getting a Karn Evil 9 movie, the answer is "yes".

really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

Another good retrospective review today.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-klf-chill-out/

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Sunday, 16 February 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link


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