Four helicopters, iirc. That's also when the Grateful Dead invented "Apocalypse Now."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
I liked the Amazon doc a lot but I thought Jerry came off terribly in it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
everyone has their off days. weir is the zappa of the dead
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, February 21, 2020 12:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he seemed like a total prick
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
not remotely a chill guy either
the chills are the dead of new zealand
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
The Dead C are the Dead of NZ.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
huh i dunno if "jerry was a prick" was my takeaway from the doc. though i've read several dead bios so maybe some of the later years stuff wasn't as surprising to me. as far as rock stars go, maybe not such a bad dude.
― tylerw, Friday, 21 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
a broken angel sings from a guitar. in the end there's just a song
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
Even as a Dead fan I can agree they seem like one of the least desirable bands to actually hang out with.
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
all of the SF 60s psych bands seem like horrible ppl tbh. Even Fogerty and Sly seemed like, um, difficult people to say the least.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
i think LSD can breed megalomania and solipsism as opposed to a sense of being 'all one' with the universe or whatever
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 February 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
Plus Garcia was a junkie for years.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, 21 February 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
yeah addiction can turn even a basically ethical person into a terrible terrible prick
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 February 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link
I'm just going to lol a little bit at all the insightful observations of how terrible the Dead were as people in this thread while the same people have a chuckle on the Bobby Gillespie thread about him wearing literal Nazi symbols. NB I like the Dead and Primal Scream (actually similar groups/fanbases in some ways).
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Saturday, 22 February 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
one of the perks of being an American is not giving a shit about Primal Scream
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 February 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link
PBKR is referring to me. Never seen our wee Boaby sporting a death’s head before and i am disappointed. Love Primal Scream but have never particularly considered Boaby as a person I would like to hang out with.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link
Also i am an American and a Jew, not particularly convinced Boaby is a Nazi as much as a young idiot.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:06 (four years ago) link
Sorry to call you out Shakes, just being a little playful. Mostly just amused how we all have our own predispositions so that we will cut people we like a LOT of slack while those we have hangups about we hold their feet to the fire. I’m as guilty as anyone.
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link
Heh, that's funny, because I had just watched that "Songs from the Big Chair" Classic Albums doc, and after looking to see which ones I hadn't seen yet, started "Screamadelica." But about 20 minutes in I turned it off because I didn't give a shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:40 (four years ago) link
Was going to say it's also funny that one of the perks of not being an American is not giving a shit about the Grateful Dead but what's funnier is the assumption that non-Americans give a shit about Primal Scream.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link
wait boaby is a YOUNG idiot, in that case so am i, finally this thread delivers
― mark s, Saturday, 22 February 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link
primal scream: bad live, suck unless heavily remixesgrateful dead: neither of those things
lmao at the idea that americans especially care about primal scream. no they don’t
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link
remixed*
No-one said they did?
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
The interview is from around the time of "Loaded", so he'd be 27 going on 28.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link
... admittedly that is 14 in Boaby years.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, February 22, 2020 6:09 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
oh lol i'm very sleepy, i didn't realize your implication was that no one cares about primal scream
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link
Hugely enjoying all the recent testimonials here, different visions, POVs, incl. of those who enjoy other peoples' perspectives, but can't bear the actual soundz of inspiration. Leave us not forget Jerry in other contexts---not nec. bluegrass or set-down folkie sets, but also the soulful grooves:I like Keith and Donna in several of those live Jerry Garcia Band sets, long rippling versions of "Don't Let Go" and so on; JGB and Legion of Mary shows can be pretty refreshing.
― dow, Friday, April 15, 2016 2:50 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah been digging into some 76-78 JGB stuff and Garcia definitely sounds inspired/engaged/lively compared to some of the Dead stuff from that era. and donna and keith actually contribute in a good way!
― tylerw, Friday, April 15, 2016 3:16 PM (three years ago) Much more of that here:Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&Dand here:Jerry Garcia Solo/JGB/Grisman/etc. - S/D
― dow, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
For anyone on the bus or Dead-curious: this The Other One is superb, and the ending-> is something else. March 20 1977
https://archive.org/details/gd1977-03-20.145511.mtx.motb0226.flac16/gd1977-03-20.mtx.motb.0226.d2t05.flac
― llurk, Friday, 20 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
Thrilled to announce that I’ll be performing the National Anthem for Sunday’s FOX @NASCAR iRACING race on @FOXTV, @FS1 and the FOX Sports App at 1:00 PM ET from the comforts of home. Tune in! pic.twitter.com/p3986M4YhY— Bob Weir (@BobWeir) March 27, 2020
― morrisp, Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
the row jimmy from this show is probably my favorite xp
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
Heres Bob Weir singin the national anthem for the Esports nascar race lmao pic.twitter.com/ndYnBzO26y— Kent (Bene Gesserit) (@kentdunne) March 29, 2020
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
not as bad as i would have thought but the digital element is extremely bizarre. didn't know they were literally airing a simulation lmao
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
do we have Rolling Most 2020 Video thread
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYVMyClU0AA_a1c.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
This is wild: https://anthology.vinylmeplease.com/collections/anthology/products/vmp-anthology-grateful-dead
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 May 2020 06:41 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaQ8r-SwR2c
no 30-year old has looked older than 1972 Jerry Garcia
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 May 2020 07:23 (four years ago) link
i took this as a challenge. my thought here is that you gotta go with the former child stars. macaulay culkin. danny bonaduce.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link
I maintain that 1940s and 1950s movie actors are the all-time champions of looking 50 at 30.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
I think Garcia definitely looks early 40s in that clip. Ten years later at age 40 and I dunno, 55? 60?
https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/193427782/Jerry_Garcia1_1982.jpg?auto=format&fit=max&w=780
Bonaduce at age 30. I would guess late 40s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ro5jLUrOA
Culkin at age 30, otoh, still looking young for his age.
https://www.wmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/24/5b572658c51225203f2ba132_GettyImages-83386408.jpg?fit=3534%2C3000
― peace, man, Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link
Howard Kaylan looked older when he was 21.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2015/05/The-Turtles.jpg
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link
i guess there's, like, different sorts of aging, and a lot of it is very related to gendered presentation
beards make people look older. particularly long, graying beards. paradoxically they can also cover up a lot of the signs of visible aging in the skin - bonaduce's aging is from living a hard life. one can also see premature aging in a lot of people who do sex work, i've noticed.
my go-to for premature aging is someone like mark e. smith. he also had the classic british poor dental hygiene symptoms of premature aging, but by the time he was 60 he looked about 150 years old. he was also dying and had not been taking care of himself for decades at that point, though. i don't remember what he looked like in '87. i tried looking it up and there was this truly awful clickbait video and i had to give up.
howard kaylan looking old in his 20s seems more of a style thing than anything else
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
Style and the grey hair, which I'm so pleased he never tried to hide.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
I've seen lots of 60 year old men who look as bad as MES!
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link
Richard Manuel at 33 in the Last Waltz gives Jerry a run for his money
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 May 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
can we go back to the box set that revived this? all that shitty colored vinyl, jeez.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
Why is Workingman's purple?
― peace, man, Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
because P S Y C H E D E L I C B A N D S O F Y O R E O N C O L O R E D V I N Y L
also, "shut up and give us money"
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link