HIPSTER (the pit of vipers)

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you know it sadly took me 15 minutes to get nate's joke up there.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago) link

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago) link

I was attracted to the social contrarianism (at least within my peer group) of listening to pop music. But as a listener, it also felt incredibly refreshing: I realized I loved all the cool sounds, the beats, the catchy melodies. And why not?

I see how all of these aspects of top 40 pop are attractive, but doesn't the music for which which cool sounds/beats/melodies is the icing on the cake have a special appeal? Doesn't it set itself above the overproduced stuff you hear on pop radio?

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

The point of that post was to ask: does that viewpoint (of mine) qualify me as a hipster?

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sorry; I still don't understand your question.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago) link

But I like icing an awful lot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago) link

Cake is better. Pal.

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, to use your metaphor, I'm not sure what cake is, if not "cool sounds/beats/melodies" -- I mean, what else is there?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

Well I didn't mean it like that. But in the original metaphor, cake is good songwriting, meaningful lyrics, musical uniqueness, poignancy, etc.

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

they had that one good song about the race car. i don't know if it was a hipster race car though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

"he's all alone/in a Saab CD"?

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

Oh man I need you guys to be responsible friends so if you catch me using a food metaphor to describe music in 2004 just kill me with a vegematic.

― Darrens8====D (DarrenK), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

And you know, if you do that for me, 'everything else is just a bonus'.

― Darrens8====D (DarrenK), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

what is a vegematic? (sorry)

― adam michel (adam michel), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:01 (twenty years ago) link

It's a vegetable slicer sold via American television commercials.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

Here's a page about it on Smithsonian Online.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

It's a Jonathon Richman song! That makes it hip.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

btw, this thread is much better.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

I think, anyway. I didn't re-read it or anything, but I remember it being pretty good.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago) link

HIPSTER is the new online acetabulum and femur-ball sharing service for seniors. What the hell are YOU people on about?

― Darrens8====D (DarrenK), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.viperclub.org/

We're always welcoming new members to our viper enthusiast club, so feel free to join in the fun! Not all of us own vipers but it does'nt hurt to dream!

― Arthur M. Martinez, Friday, 30 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...

It has all the marks of a professional journalist, doesn't it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

yes, a specific one

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

well, that's what i was getting at, m.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I just thought I'd pedantically answer the question (or pseudo-question) eight months after it was posed. (I was thinking about it yesterday, actually, for reals.)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

RAGGETT

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

What, where?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

This reads like Raggett and by that I mean that it is full of hatred.

― d'ngullberry (noisemeltdown), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

wait what?

― Aja. (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll just re-post what I wrote on the DeRo thread:

I mean here's a guy who clearly is infuriated that despite his championing of rebellion, the 'real,' etc. he discovers he's considered a conservative laughingstock by others. His kneejerk reaction is to assume that the reason he's not considered hip is that these "oh so clever" people who have chosen Being Hip over Being Honest, and creates a plausible profile of the thought process of this hipster. It's way more thoughtful and challenging than anything else I've read of his.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't doubt this sort of person exists but this is just a way to paint his opponents with the brush of insincerity, though it seems to me denying the visceral pleasures of catchy pop music isn't exactly being honest!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

oh you kylie fan

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The idea of "thinkpiece" as insult is pretty funny.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Their masks fit tight on their faces

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The original article that is...

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I have one other friend IRL who likes Kylie Minogue but literally keeps the CDs hidden in a shoebox in his closet (ahem)

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I may still have a shoebox in the closet of my room at my mom's with all my old cassingles in it - "Pop Goes The Weasel," "Sowing The Seeds Of Love," "It Ain't Over Till It's Over," "Rock And A Hard Place," "No Myth" but I might have tossed it.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a friend who has a post-Dick Marillion cupboard.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

my favorite cassingle was "The Hitman" by AB Logic.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a drawer at my parents' house filled with Dokken, Savatage, and Paula Abdul tapes.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

god its scary how easily I can tie my tastes then to my tastes now: ironic hip-pop? check. bonkers well-intentioned overproduction? check. old school soul rips? check. awkward polito-rock? check. cryptic art-folk over hard drum beats? check.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

This reads like Raggett and by that I mean that it is full of hatred.

:-( (Regardless, it is not by me.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't this aimed directly at ILMers? It's about all the hating that goes on here, and from alleged music lovers. I had conceived of a similar post callled "I Love Music, but I hate Music Lovers" (but I was too sensitive to post it here - and face the above).

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

If it isn't it probably should be.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Kidding, Ned! ;D

― d'ngullberry (noisemeltdown), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Somewhere DeRog and Andy Wang are laughing at us!

(although, thanks to Wang for leading me here)

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

he's asking for the death of all dialogue.

Bingo.

What the hell is the point of this fucking post? The person who wrote it saw some hipsters at the mall and was jealous because he was all alone and he just wants to hang out with them SO FUCK THOSE GUYS, FAKE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS TRUST FUND PHONIES. So? What's the point?

― Dred Furst, Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

CHRIS PENN, Miccio?

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno. I might be drunk, but I think it's good. Music is a thing where people are constantly manoeuvering, deliberately or otherwise to ensure they are 'ahead' of the game. It gets on my tits. I agree with the poster, I think.

I don't see why jealousy has to be the only reason. It certainly isn't for me; it's just a bit annoying a generally held opinion (at least one that seems to appear organically) is that there has to be some concensus on how one should think and to then constantly change the goalpoasts to prove how on 'ahead' of the game you are. I see this all the time.

In some sense there is perhaps no point in any post like this or any discussion around it, at least from my point of view. The 'coolest', most 'leftfield' thing anyone can manage in my point of view is to have their own brain inside their head, and that's about the size of it. But it's a laff isn't it?

Either way, in my opinion, the poster does describe well a situation that does exist with .

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

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