i don't think that goes far enough, i like to self-administer ECT until my brain stops falling into recognising the stale old tropes of tonal music, rhythm, and what i'm supposed to be doing
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
Tbf an aural Voynich manuscript of hip-hop would be pretty awesome.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
plenty of genres and subgenres started out of not hearing the things you want in music that's around.
Thought of OP when I read an instrument review today....
I learned a LOT being a first time music maker/instrument user/midi etc I have NEVER done anything with music up until this year. Turned 30 and said "I'm TIRED of listening to these trash A** BEATS!!!" so I bought a Komplete Kontrol M32 Keyboard, a DeepMind 6 and an MPC Touch. Haven't used the DM6 yet but OMG I am already a legend in my mind with this MPC and the KK M32.
― maffew12, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
Complaining about rappers rapping about rapping is like complaining about rockers singing about rocking.
Not only does the latter seem valid to me but rockers themselves have done this much less since the 80s. I think it would seem weird if Thom Yorke or Win Butler sang something like "Rock You Like a Hurricane".
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Also rappers rapping about rapping sounds p “l’art pour l’art” to me and not some sinister mandated social realism
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Karma policearrest this manhe cannot rock like us
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Not quite the same thing, but I'm reminded of this Walter Benjamin quip:
Of all the ways of acquiring books, writing them oneself is regarded as the most praiseworthy method. Writers are really people who write books not because they are poor, but because they are dissatisfied with the books which they could buy but do not like.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Insofar as autotelism is widely regarded as one of the pillars of art for art's sake, mos def.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
xxxp Rapping about rap really got overdone as a reaction to more social realist rap
― maffew12, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
I'm a creepI'm a virtuosoI rock you from ear to earBut I don't belong here
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
god i wish Radiohead just did Scorpions covers
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
Thought I was in the what's the most melodramatic pop song?' thread for a second.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
The Bends is mostly Scorpions covers iirc
― maffew12, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
I can feel death, can see its beady eyes
Bona fide bragging.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
This thread is like going into the spam cafe and asking for something that doesn’t have spam in it
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
Tbf to OP hip-hop's signature sound was built on decontextualization and recontextualization.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE2xRCG2ih0
― calzino, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
there's been plenty offered up that fits the bill, op hasn't even dismissed all of it yet.
― maffew12, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PsnxDQvQpw
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
can i get some dance music that isn't danceable?
oh yeah i can, i see there are hundreds of ILM threads about exactly that
strange that asking for rap that doesn't rap is somehow more controversial than asking for dance that doesn't dance or rock that doesn't rock
― lurks, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
rockers rocking about rocking (post 50s) is the most insufferable "mode" of rock, it's always bad, critically rehabilitated hard rock included
rappers rapping about rapping probably includes a lot of the best and worst rap though
― no (Left), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytxv6XPa3E
I will admit there are times I want to listen to, say, Slayer, or Sabbath, but I don't feel like hearing the stupid (proto or no) metal-trope lyrics. There are other times I do.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
The suggestion that I listen to hip-hop in a language I don’t understand does seem like an honest attempt to answer my request in the OP, so thanks. But the problem here is that one of my biggest hobbies is language-learning, so I probably would not be oblivious to the lyrics for long.
troll
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
fuck this troll, especially today
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Sunday, May 31, 2020 7:58 AM (four hours ago)
otm, fuck off
i could try to listen to something in a language i don't know, but i'm such a genius that i would inevitably learn the language and my listening pleasure would decrease significantly
fuuuuuck yoooooouuuuu
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
google "news in the USA this year" and just fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuTQ0JO0Ri4
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
Sund4r and Lurks get it. I find it just as tiresome when rockers sing about wanting to rock. I also don't like poets who write poems that constantly mention The Poem or poetry. I would prefer that the medium (whether a rock song, a poem, or a hip-hop track) be used to communicate something that is separate from the medium.
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:11 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
why would a non american wanna do this?
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
google "opinions from the USA" and you'll know
― lumen (esby), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
in order to obtain 1/100000000000th of a clue
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
I am well aware of American news at the moment, thanks. But why should it be relevant to the music I want to listen to for entertainment? How many Americans follow news in other countries and form their aesthetic preferences based on that?
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
do you regularly google say "news in nigeria this year" news in "costa rica this year"?xp
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
this is america, we catch up with our multicultural friends' reports of happenings in their home lands over brunch
― lumen (esby), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
great thread
fucking ignorant assholes
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
The wife's suggestion:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOU_Z6Y8yQ
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
Anyway, the perfect answer was released in 1995:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDOy3AosBw
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAqZgv_TEGI
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
― oscar bravo, Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:17 PM bookmarkflaglink
I regularly read up on the happenings in Hungary and Brazil, actually.
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
I only like art that is totally free of the strictures of form, devoid of any referent in the so called real world and unconnected to the history of popular music leading up to it. You know, shoegaze
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
can i get some dance music that isn't danceable?oh yeah i can, i see there are hundreds of ILM threads about exactly thatstrange that asking for rap that doesn't rap is somehow more controversial than asking for dance that doesn't dance or rock that doesn't rock
this seems otm tbh
― groovemaaan, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
he got lots of good answers within two posts!
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
Is this the new rockism vs poptimism?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
should have spent their time listening to billy woods rather than posting itt
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
can you all stop fucking posting to this thread
― brimstead, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
If he said rap without rhythm then we would have unmasked Geir by now
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
Some light reading: Hip Hop taken to new levels.
― imago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/uRxRLxPbtKf28/giphy.gif
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34icYC8zA0
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb3lnUx0xO0