rockers rocking about rocking (post 50s) is the most insufferable "mode" of rock, it's always bad, critically rehabilitated hard rock included
rappers rapping about rapping probably includes a lot of the best and worst rap though
― no (Left), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytxv6XPa3E
I will admit there are times I want to listen to, say, Slayer, or Sabbath, but I don't feel like hearing the stupid (proto or no) metal-trope lyrics. There are other times I do.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
The suggestion that I listen to hip-hop in a language I don’t understand does seem like an honest attempt to answer my request in the OP, so thanks. But the problem here is that one of my biggest hobbies is language-learning, so I probably would not be oblivious to the lyrics for long.
troll
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
fuck this troll, especially today
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Sunday, May 31, 2020 7:58 AM (four hours ago)
otm, fuck off
i could try to listen to something in a language i don't know, but i'm such a genius that i would inevitably learn the language and my listening pleasure would decrease significantly
fuuuuuck yoooooouuuuu
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
google "news in the USA this year" and just fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuTQ0JO0Ri4
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
Sund4r and Lurks get it. I find it just as tiresome when rockers sing about wanting to rock. I also don't like poets who write poems that constantly mention The Poem or poetry. I would prefer that the medium (whether a rock song, a poem, or a hip-hop track) be used to communicate something that is separate from the medium.
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:11 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
why would a non american wanna do this?
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
google "opinions from the USA" and you'll know
― lumen (esby), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
in order to obtain 1/100000000000th of a clue
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
I am well aware of American news at the moment, thanks. But why should it be relevant to the music I want to listen to for entertainment? How many Americans follow news in other countries and form their aesthetic preferences based on that?
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
do you regularly google say "news in nigeria this year" news in "costa rica this year"?xp
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
this is america, we catch up with our multicultural friends' reports of happenings in their home lands over brunch
― lumen (esby), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
great thread
fucking ignorant assholes
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
The wife's suggestion:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOU_Z6Y8yQ
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
Anyway, the perfect answer was released in 1995:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDOy3AosBw
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAqZgv_TEGI
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
― oscar bravo, Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:17 PM bookmarkflaglink
I regularly read up on the happenings in Hungary and Brazil, actually.
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
I only like art that is totally free of the strictures of form, devoid of any referent in the so called real world and unconnected to the history of popular music leading up to it. You know, shoegaze
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
can i get some dance music that isn't danceable?oh yeah i can, i see there are hundreds of ILM threads about exactly thatstrange that asking for rap that doesn't rap is somehow more controversial than asking for dance that doesn't dance or rock that doesn't rock
oh yeah i can, i see there are hundreds of ILM threads about exactly that
strange that asking for rap that doesn't rap is somehow more controversial than asking for dance that doesn't dance or rock that doesn't rock
this seems otm tbh
― groovemaaan, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
he got lots of good answers within two posts!
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
Is this the new rockism vs poptimism?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
should have spent their time listening to billy woods rather than posting itt
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
can you all stop fucking posting to this thread
― brimstead, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
If he said rap without rhythm then we would have unmasked Geir by now
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
Some light reading: Hip Hop taken to new levels.
― imago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/uRxRLxPbtKf28/giphy.gif
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34icYC8zA0
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb3lnUx0xO0
it's more like starting a thread asking for IDM and dismissing any conceivable suggestion as too danceable
― no (Left), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/bGvKubXdkErks/giphy.gif
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccf1-UgdbbM
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
great time to start a thread asking for music that erases the contributions of the people who invented it, at the very same moment that an entire country is tearing itself apart trying to defend the very same people from being erased by white supremacists
i think less of anyone on this thread who engaged with this asshole in a serious manner
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
can i get some dance music that isn't danceable?
drexciya
j/k drexciya are funky as hell but notice how i could answer this question without removing any aspect of the black american voice from the genre of dance music
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
(you can't really do that effectively with melomane's question)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
A+ trolling by Melanin, I mean Melomane.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
Karl, I love you but context does shift as it crosses borders, misappropriation and misunderstanding are the norm.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
I don’t think it’s possible to thoroughly grasp ‘race’ the way an American does if you’re not American itself.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
*yourself, goddamnit.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
Context!!
― brimstead, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
yes brad but you didn't really answer correctly because as you note drexciya are actually danceable
whether drexciya is dj-mixable is another issue entirely ...
― the late great, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
how about most undanceable dance music is danceable
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
☺️
― the late great, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
idk the issue isn't really dance music
i'm pretty sure melomane is trolling so this conversation will probably go nowhere good but ...
i'm surprised someone asking for music without references to sex drugs violence misbehavior and misogyny is equated to anti-blackness
surely we have better definitions for blackness in 2020than "acting like a rapper"
― the late great, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
if he asked for gospel without references to god wouldppl freak out about anti-blackness? gospel is more popular with black audiences than rap is iirc and yet i sense ppl would answer that qn w/o getting upset
― the late great, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
I thought he asked for rap where the rapper doesn’t talk about themselves or how the streets are dangerous or something.. I guess I should read the op again (not!)
― brimstead, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
― the late great, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:44 (ten seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
wanting rap without hedonism or bragging is probably fine (if questionable), but melomane specified further that they didn't want references to rapping itself, or any sort of struggle - is it so easy to approach rap without any reference to its use as a rallying-point for social justice issues?
― imago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
if this thread had just been called 'recommend abstract hip-hop' it would just have gone so much better, is all
― imago, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
Again, the accusations that I am trolling are inappropriate. I have participated on this board completely authentically for some time now. Instead of attacking me and calling me a troll, can't anyone be happy that I am trying to find hip-hop that connects with me, instead of writing the genre off entirely as so many people (even on this board) have done?
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link