Why does Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Psychocandy' sound like crap?

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Nothing on Psychocandy excites me like "Happy When It Rains."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Um, wow. This album is fucking awesome. Thanks, everyone. Really digging this and Loveless.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with an album where every other song starts off like "Be My Baby." Seriously.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

If my crap sounded like this, I'd be on the toilet for 45 minutes every time.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The concept of "remastered" GBV albums still makes me rofl.

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"Is it just me? The mix is horrible. The volume is low. I can barely listen to the thing. Please somebody remaster this."

it has always sounded amazing to me. maybe the cd sucks? i've never heard it on cd. some cds just aren't made very well. barbed wire kisses on cd always sounded good to me. and all the later stuff sounds fine on cd.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

How do I shot feedback??

To my ears, the CD is slightly inferior to the original LP pressing, but it doesn't really sound like a different album or anything. I think the "Just Like Honey" production is flawless and of course sounded amazing in Lost in Translation.

i'm from hollywood, Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Scott, I just listened to the m-f on mp3 and it sounded great. So I'm thinking it's nothing to do with the medium.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

it has always sounded amazing to me. maybe the cd sucks?

This wouldn't surprise me. I haven't heard "Psychocandy" on vinyl, but I have the "You Trip Me Up" single and it sounds INCREDIBLE -- 100X bigger and nastier and gorgeous than on CD. The vinyl grooves might be the widest I've seen ... that sucker was mastered LOUD.

I also think that the Peel Sessions versions of the "Psychocandy" tracks are far better than those on the album proper.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

likewise, the sidewalking 12-inch has a monster sound that cd and vinyl comp versions don't come close to (also a john loder thang). john loder was a god to me, by the way. easily in my top ten of fave soundgeniuses.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think if they do a remaster, they should bury it under MORE echo and feedback.

electrogrouse (haitch), Saturday, 11 March 2006 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
From Spin CDs:

5 Jesus & Mary Chain re-releases
These remasters now £7.99 each, click on the titles to pre-order and to check the tracks: 'Automatic', 'Darklands', 'Honey's Dead', 'Psychocandy' and 'Stoned And Dethroned'. Released 10th July.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Each reissue will be released in dual disc format, with one side containing the remastered album and the other side featuring a high-resolution audio mix and three music videos.

The band's 1985 debut, Psychocandy — which was named one of Spin Magazine's 50 essential records — will include the videos for "Just Like Honey," "You Trip Me Up" and "Never Understand."

Darklands (1987) features videos for "Happy When It Rains," "April Skies" and the title track.

The DVD portion of 1989's Automatic is comprised of "Her Way Of Praying," "Blues From A Gun" and "Head On."

Honey's Dead, their underrated 1992 album, has clips for "Almost Gold," "Reverence" and "Far Gone And Out."

Stoned And Dethroned, the last JAMC album to be released via Warner Bros. in 1994, will be reissued with the videos for "Come On," "Snakedriver" and "Sometimes Always."

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Argh, so this is just a way of getting us to part with more of our hard earned cash, instead of just re-releasing the bloody video on DVD. Oh, just you watch, then they'll re-release that, too, with "bonus" tracks or something. ARgh.

Of course, you know I'm going to buy them.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone have any opinions on getting Psychocandy on Dualdisc (remastered) vs. the 180-gram vinyl release from Rhino? Decisions, decisions...

Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Dualdisc has the videos which are GREAT.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone have any opinions on getting Psychocandy on Dualdisc (remastered) vs. the 180-gram vinyl release from Rhino?

first, this thread is a great read.

and because of that i broke open my dualdisc of Psychocandy. it's a must, if you own the 80's version of this CD. it's sound cleaned up without losing any of the dirtiness. what a album, one of the best ever!

Bee OK, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

because youre an idiot jerk

deeznuts, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:27 (sixteen years ago) link

So quick with the insults? I thought we were discussing music here in a civil manner. Or is that kind of thing beyond your obviously low intelligence level? If so, please leave the board. Thanks.

Bimble, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that was his response to the thread title

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

yes. bimble you linked me to that thorn of crowns vid on youtube & will never be an idiot jerk in my book.

deeznuts, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link

are the UK versions of their remasters dualdiscs or regular CDs? i hate dualdiscs.

f. hazel, Friday, 29 June 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Regular discs.

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Something's Wrong" came up on my ipod this morning. I had completely forgotten how utterly (and paradoxically) majestic that album could sound.

baaderonixx, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The only way to fully appreciate Psychocandy is via a cassette-recorded copy made in the studio of a university radio station, using an inferior turntable and the station's well-worn-to-the-point-of-whiteness-paler-than-the-Reid brothers' complexions vinyl version. (I later bought an official actual cassette and it didn't measure up.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 29 June 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Psychocandy is today's 'seminal album' being given away with The Times / WHSmith

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/commercial/article4867507.ece

koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I only have this on napster-download-circa-2001 mp3 so I'll probably buy that.

jim, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It is supposed to sound that way. It's called "shoegazing". See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

> See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.

you talk as if mbv only ever released one lp...

koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

pls do not associate JAMC with lame MBV thx!

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

by the way the first post is cute

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think the record sounds like crap. But I prefer the band's sound on their early 12" singles. They have this three-dimensional/dub feel that seems to be missing from Psychocandy.

QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

another day goes by me
another day, a month and a year
and as I look around me
I feel so lonely there's no one here
no one here beside me
no one here to help to see me through
to see me through
to see me through
'cause I need you
'cause I need you
been standing still for much too long
and I realise there's something wrong
I'm feeling strange, I need a change
and I realise that
there's something wrong
there's something wrong
there's something wrong
another two years over
don't understand what's happened to me
these days are so much colder
up against the fire, dont feel any heat
cracked up years behind me
cracked up years ahead are all I see
are all I see

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

pls do not associate JAMC with lame MBV thx!

I think the debt is pretty obvious and acknowledged.

Trivia: Douglas Hart has done the amazing visuals for the new MBV tour.

Also, MBV lame? No.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

come on now

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the debt is pretty obvious and acknowledged.

The debt went the other way, though, didn't it? Obviously MBV's debt to Jesus & Mary Chain was great.

Both owe a great debt to Velvet Underground, with the exception that JAMC were influenced both by the good Velvets tracks("Sunday Morning", "Candy Says" etc.) and the bad ones ("Sister Ray", "Heroin" etc.), whereas MBV were only influenced by Velvets at their worst and most noisy and unlistenable.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yes surely MBV gave nary a second thought to Sunday Morning how true

ian, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost, that is obviously what I'm saying.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

regarding the direction of the debt.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Geir I honestly wonder how familiar you are with MBV. Very pretty melodies all over the place.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Fact: Psychocandy sounds best on scratched up vinyl through blown speakers.

Pillbox, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Geir I honestly wonder how familiar you are with MBV. Very pretty melodies all over the place.

No idea. I have listened to their albums several times. I can hear there are melodies buried somewhere in there, but getting them into my head, which is obviously needed to judge them, is impossible because of that wall of guitar noise.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Smoke some weed first

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

some days I think the best thing JAMC ever did was get mentioned in the liner notes to Evol or which ever it was

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't see how Geir would dislike "Sunny Sundae Smile" or "Lovely Sweet Darlene".

Trayce, Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

(ie Loveless is NOT THE ONLY THING THEY DID FFS)

Trayce, Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe because he's a cloth-eared fuckwit

Deep House, M.D. (haitch), Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i never really had a problem with the sound of this record, mainly just the repetitive song structures and general lack of variety. i've reconciled myself to this though over the last few years and now love the record pretty much unconditionally.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

so basically u foreced urself to liek it.

descendent of warlocks (The Brainwasher), Friday, 26 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

sorta deal

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link


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