Rolling last.fm thread 2009 no haters!

New Order finally knocked off the top of the ilxor charts
http://www.last.fm/group/ilXor/charts

ilx is so 80s

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New Order finally knocked off the top of the ilxor charts

That's got nothing to do with MJ; it's just because I deleted my account :)

we sent you to Coventry ;)

(we havent really)

Can someone explain why New Order is always at the top of the ILX list?

Because, despite those last two albums, they absolutely fucking rule?

ilx is indie + old.

In all seriousness, that's exactly it: if there's one band to which a sizeable core of ILX0rs is going to return again and again, it doesn't surprise me at all that New Order are it.

but the ilx indie have to pretend they dance rather than rock
xp

otherwise they be "corny"

weekly charts are not immensely informative; 80 play counts for one artist = 8 out of 679 people listened to the same album last week

by =, i mean "roughly equivalent to"

Yeh, exactly: it's a tiny sample and the results are pretty much meaningless.

80 play counts for an artist means 80 individuals listened to at least 1 track by that artist

Oh, does it? <Thinks> Fuck it, still not exactly earth-shattering.

xp ah i see

and album plays means each individual played 1 track from that album

grimly get a new account

http://www.last.fm/user/rinsemusic

revitalised my usage this year, and desperately trying to rectify the statistical anomoly that indicates I have listened to Annie "Heartbeat" 118 times since December 2004. Especially sinced I hadn't logged back in for at least 3 years.

so much better with spotify scrobbling

alright here's me, then http://www.last.fm/user/beefandrootbeer

i have the double-scrobble ipod thing happen as well every now and then. lastfm does not like manually managed ipods

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is High

Music you have in common includes Gas, Luciano, D. Lissvik, lindstrom and prins thomas and Gilberto Gil.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is High

Music you have in common includes Miles Davis, Edan, Closer Musik, Alex Under and Fleetwood Mac.

the shock will be coupled with the need to dance

^ that was celebratory btw

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Very High

Music you have in common includes Expo '70, Force of Nature, D. Lissvik, Basic Channel and Aeroplane.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is High

Music you have in common includes Rhythm & Sound, Aeroplane, Ame, Black Meteoric Star and Chromatics.

High fives all round.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is Low

Music you have in common includes Michael Jackson, Annie, Commodores, Grace Jones and Hot Chip.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Very Low

Music you have in common includes The Rolling Stones, Yello, Iggy Pop and Bob Dylan.

:(

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is High

Music you have in common includes Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti, Grouper, Steve Reich, Brian Eno and Brian Eno & David Byrne.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Low

Music you have in common includes The Advisory Circle, Brian Eno, Midlake, Tortoise and Gas.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Medium

Music you have in common includes kuniyuki takahashi, Guido, Cooly G, D. Lissvik and Aeroplane.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is Low

Music you have in common includes Luomo, Ada, Grace Jones, DJ Sprinkles and Faze Action.

^^what awesome artists for both

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is Low

Music you have in common includes Grouper, Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, Kraftwerk and Aphex Twin.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Low

Music you have in common includes Herbie Hancock, Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin, Tortoise and Joe Henderson.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is LOW
Music you have in common includes Miles Davis, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac and Talking Heads.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is VERY LOW
Music you have in common includes Bob Dylan, Talking Heads, Blondie and The Rolling Stones.

why not:

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is Low

Music you have in common includes Mos Def, Kraftwerk, Charles Mingus, Michael Jackson and Miles Davis.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Medium

Music you have in common includes Sa-Ra, lindstrom and prins thomas, Mark E, Kraftwerk and Moodymann.

lastfm does not like manually managed ipods

Ach, it just doesn't like iPods very much. And iPhones seem to be a source of endless confusion for it.

Everyone loves Kraftwerk!

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is High

Music you have in common includes Hatchback, Basic Channel, Kraftwerk, Brian Eno and Flying Lotus.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is Medium

Music you have in common includes Daniel Wang, Kraftwerk, Brian Eno, Metro Area and Phuture.

lastfm does not like manually managed ipods

I haven't had too much trouble with scrobbling from my ipod. It occasionally claims there are no scrobbles, but it just picks them up the next time I plug it in. Never had any doubles of anything.

Yeh, that's the weird thing: it seems to affect a random selection of people using a wide range of systems; the fact there've been people whacking on about it on the Last.fm forums since October 2008 (at least) yet they've not had any proper acknowledgement, let alone help, was a major factor in making me think: "Fuck this."

I could have just about lived with double scrobbling if I'd been able to remove the duplicate tracks: delete one, though, and they both go. That's what led me to think it had to be something at the server end rather than my end; once again, all roads led to "fuck this".

^^ditto. if even i can manage it...

(xp!)

sometimes it looks like it's scrobbling doubles, but this is only when i've listened to a song twice separately in between ipod syncs - it'll scrobble them at the same time.

Your musical compatibility with rinsemusic is High

Music you have in common includes Aeroplane, Justus Köhncke, Daniel Wang, Alice Coltrane and Chromatics.

Your musical compatibility with beefandrootbeer is Medium

Music you have in common includes D. Lissvik, Aeroplane, Gilberto Gil, Hatchback and Aphex Twin.

the lex with the answer right there! it must scrobble in alphabetical order!

lol 13-year-old argentinian girls messaging me asking for the new shakira single after seeing it on my page!

how are you scrobbling your iPod? I have a manually managed iPod and I use iSproggler, a third-party app, and it works well.

his answer badly

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CQ2qS6uG3hA/R6bp1XxmQnI/AAAAAAAABjc/4K6ndHZppkc/s320/pram.jpg

hehe

how are you scrobbling your iPod?

I was using iScrobbler on OS X but it had a couple of irritating and persistent flaws that made me think, sod it, I'll try the new version of the official Last.fm app (I'd given up on that heap of shit after about two seconds when I signed up at the end of 2006). And it was still bollocks: painfully so, in fact.

But let's get things into perspective here. I shitcanned Last.fm not just because scrobbling from my phone was a needlessly fiddly and unreliable affair but also because:

* Their customer service is woeful: flat-out ignoring users who complain simply because they're a small minority, which seems to be what they're doing, is tantamount to waving a big flag saying "FUCK YOU" in my book. (eMusic are even more guilty of this, but I find them much more useful so I'm willing to grin and bear it ... for now.)

* Since Spotify came along, I'd stopped using the radio side of things and was really just using Last.fm as a glorified way of a) being anal about my listening and b) very occasionally sparking a music-related chat, either on Last.fm itself or on Facebook. If I'm missing anything, it's the former: but when I ask myself why I wanted to know exactly when I last listened to On Me Not In Me, or how many times I'd played Second Class War, I can't really give myself a reasonable answer. As for the latter: there are myriad other, better ways to go about that ... this place being a fine one.

* Call me paranoid, but see this whole founders-leaving, did-they-or-didn't-they-leak-to-the-RIAA, CBS-related bullshit? I'm not such a fan of that. I accept that their response to it all was reasonably sound, and TechCrunch looked like total bell-ends, but the shadow of The Man looms ever so slightly larger than I'd like now. (The same goes for Spotify, right enough, but ... well, like eMusic, it's just much more useful.)

* Ultimately, scrobbling to Last.fm had become a pointless habit for me, and when the double-scrobbling thing happened and it became obvious nobody at their end gave an iota of a shit, calling it a day seemed the obvious thing to do.

I can't fucking believe I just wrote all that. Why the hell am I justifying something that should merit a 0 on any properly calibrated care-o-meter? Anyway, there you go.

Also: most of that wasn't really in reply to you, musically, but to pfunkboy; sorry if you thought I was being unnecessarily snippy.

i didn't, even though i hadnt actually read it hehe.
You know im only joking with you.
But we both know you will sign up again within a month as spotify scrobbles and you will miss it even for the very discussions you mentioned...

http://www.last.fm/join

http://www.last.fm/swivel