I've espoused many times about the "lo-fi" tag being misaligned to Slanted & Enchanted, such as here:
C or D : Guided By Voices.
One thing that kind of bothers me about Pavement's "lo-fi" distinction is that they recorded everything up to Crooked Rain at Gary Young's original studio that had a 24-track MCI console which if you are familiar with is approximately the size (132"x41"x38") of ~200 Tascam 424s (18"x14"x4") such as the ones actually used by GBV, Sebadoh, Silver Jews, et.al. Slanted & Enchanted is extremely hi-fi compared to Alistair Galbraith or The Grifters music from the same period.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
maybe pix would be better:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mci+jh-636&tbm=isch
vs.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tascam+424&tbm=isch
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
lo fi by preference vs lo fi by necessity?
― calstars, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
Listening to S&Eon headphones last night, I reflected how it’s an album like Murmur — as great as the songs are, the production (sometimes slighted as “murky, lo-fi,” etc.) is a very deliberate & key creative aspect of what makes it the album it is. The same songs, recorded differently, wouldn’t have the same impact or mystique... you can hear how the other mix of “Summer Babe” doesn’t quite have that feel.
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
I’m writing crappily this morning (and I guess it’s not a revelation that the production is key for any great album), but you probably get me...
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
aw I wanna hear this "David Gone's" song
I would listen to it in two weeks on the one-year anniversary of his being gone.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
I've definitely never thought of S&E as lo-fi in sound like Eric's Trip or someone - is it seen that way? It's a fairly big, dynamic, clear-sounding rock album. Slackerish in terms of playing and singing, yes.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link
its range of frequencies of relatively limited, but there's a lot going on within that narrow range
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
Well it doesn’t have any low end ...
― calstars, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
not true! spiral's guitar is run through a guitar amp & a bass cab on loretta's scars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIw74zVmaA
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
speaking of...
Hey, I never noticed the keyboard(?) deep in the mix under the "From now on..." section of "Loretta's Scars."(??)― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, July 20, 2020 10:11 PM (yesterday)
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, July 20, 2020 10:11 PM (yesterday)
Oberheim OB-8
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
Yeah, it's not a Bob Rock production or anything. I just don't think it sounds like what actual lo-fi gear would have delivered in the early 90s.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
xp thx, Al!
I think Spiral found the low end when he boosted the heck out of it for Luxe & Reduxe.
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
I have a horse in this race, but imo 90-ish % of the bands under the "lo-fi" banner were only lo-fi under the absolute broadest sense of the term ("not working at Ocean Way")
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link
right, so you end up with this absurd descriptor that covers this vast swath spanning the "direct to boombox/answering machine" bedroom crowd all the way up to... ???
...not spending a month in the ibiza/barbados?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link
... home studio not up to Tom Scholz standards?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
interesting new Pavement album came out on Spotify last friday
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
"LAugh Trak" is a jam
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
Is that like the (now removed) new Neutral Milk Hotel song that popped up on Spotify over the weekend? Seemed like Jeff Mangum going future bass was a 2020 twist too good to be true.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
this will be 1/2 of ILM's favorite Pavement album lmao
― Thicc Nhat Wanh (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link
(Less) Froggy (More Mott)
― Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
Jackals, false grails
― calstars, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
Anybody know what’s going on? There’s also a new «Yo La Tengo» single on Spotify in a similar vein, i.e relatively basic instrumental EDM
― Mule, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link
Someone lost the keys to the Matador office?
― Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 06:36 (three years ago) link
that's weird. I thought there was a chance "300 Miles of Dust" was by some dance kids who'd never heard of Pavement before, but the Yo La Tengo song is also posted to Youtube on an official looking account.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
It is credited to novecore.com
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
BNM 8.6
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
There was also an electronic song credited to Neutral Milk Hotel that briefly popped up on Spotify, but it was pulled fairly quickly. I think there's just a sudden rash of people uploading their music to streaming services credited to more popular artists, but no one seems to be doing any vetting.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Just watched the Space Ghost episode, which somehow I had never seen (or had long forgotten about). Good stuff
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, 15 November 2020 07:00 (three years ago) link
oh there's a thread for that: The Beatles
― the burrito that defined a generation, Monday, 16 November 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link
Pavement are teasing the long-awaited deluxe reissue of their final album, 1999's 'Terror Twilight' https://t.co/xTSQXWVj6v pic.twitter.com/0HadHrOh29— Stereogum (@stereogum) February 11, 2021
I would be happy to add this one.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
lol at “pavement’s all shook down.”
i guess i will buy this.
― mizzell, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link
Glad to see some Terror Twilight love in here, I've always thought that one seemed unfairly maligned. Any word on the deluxe version?
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:17
Yeah, it's great. They removed half the tracks.
― отдых в Крыму! (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:23
― pplains, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
They should do the “Godrich sequencing” for the tracklist.
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
what was that again? started with The Hexx?
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
― mizzell, Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:52 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
haha this is very otm
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
xpost - this is what I understood it to be:
1. platform blues2. the hexx3. you are a light4. cream of gold5. ann don't cry6. folk jam7. major leagues8. speak, see, remember9. ...and carrot rope10. billie11. spit on a stranger
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
If they could cast a "Godrich-Removal" spell on this album I'd give it a curious listen.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
the idea of starting the album with "platform blues" is odd.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
agreed, would prefer "the hexx" opener for sure.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
the "godrich removal spell" is to listen to the live bootlegs from 1999 ... some of the TT songs really took off onstage.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
I was at the Mr. T's Bowl show (just SM & a Groovebox) and it was great. Have you heard that set?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
i saw the SM show at the Long Beach Museum of Art that summer! a magical night. I have a tape of that, not sure if I've heard the Mr T show.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
There is video of it, albeit in prehistoric digital quality.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
Terror Twilight is way underrated, a better album than Brighten the Corners even if it doesn't reach the same heights
― J. Sam, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
two decades later I love them about the same but for the longest I was a TT partisan
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
their weakest album IMHO
― calstars, Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
they really don't have a bad album, but if I had to lose one it'd probably be terror twilight. fotunately, I don't have to lose one.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
I have an old bootleg with some of those SM + boom box cuts on it (pulled together by a former Ilxor.)
This is frankly my least favorite Pavement album (though I love a few tracks) but I’ll buy it, of course. Really hope a dynamite live set is part of the package.
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, it's definitely the weakest Pavement album, but it's still Pavement and I'd love to hear demos or scraps from this era that might give us a peek into the non Godrich version.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link